A message to Frontier From D2EA

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It was sad really, because the buzz on other ED PP forums was palpable when Sandro dropped the bomb. Many, many old hands (some who were the foundational members in the early days) popped up and were very positive. However that all went away and that momentum was lost.
I've said it elsewhere, I'll say it here again: Sandro to me appeared to be the last game director on ED who had an actual idea where to go with it. Well, at least until the Thargoid war. That clearly shows an idea where to go as well. Sadly that way leads into the off.
 
while id love to have some interiors and have decorations for them (warframe has done it imo best) i dont think its that big gamechanger. i think it would mostly bring back some people that would spent 15 minutes in game checking it out and then left.
The way to keep people more involved in such new features is to make it a challenge to unlock. A bit like the guardian modules: They are actually a challenge to unlock, and their reward is significant. That's what makes them interesting.
 
I've never thought of you as an ex-boyfriend of ED. You're more like an old friend of the ED family who had to move away.
I would argue that Elite is the one that moved away and I was the stubborn one who refused to budge, LOL. But believe me, to the most active defenders of Elite in this thread, I'm definitely an angry ex-boyfriend who has lost his mind and should just go away forever. And to be fair, they probably have a point when it comes to "going away" from a forum dedicated to a game I no longer play. I suppose this forum could be compared to the officers lounge on an active military base, whereas the comment section of D2EA and OA are the bars where we veterans go to share our old war stories. Thing is, this thread has kinda become about us disgruntled veterans (well, at least that's the focus of certain posters), and here I am stupidly taking the bait!
 
I would argue that Elite is the one that moved away and I was the stubborn one who refused to budge, LOL. But believe me, to the most active defenders of Elite in this thread, I'm definitely an angry ex-boyfriend who has lost his mind and should just go away forever. And to be fair, they probably have a point when it comes to "going away" from a forum dedicated to a game I no longer play. I suppose this forum could be compared to the officers lounge on an active military base, whereas the comment section of D2EA and OA are the bars where we veterans go to share our old war stories. Thing is, this thread has kinda become about us disgruntled veterans (well, at least that's the focus of certain posters), and here I am stupidly taking the bait!
If you don't have anything constructive to contribute, and you don't even play the game, why are you still here, year after year, making your "I don't play the game anymore" posts?

If your only reason to hang around is to see if they, perhaps, would add new features that would rekindle your passion for the game, I don't think complaining is going to make that happen any sooner, nor does it contribute anything useful.

What you could do instead is to just do something else for eg. a year and then check if there is new stuff in the game. That, or make positive constructive contributions to the forum.
 
If you don't have anything constructive to contribute, and you don't even play the game, why are you still here, year after year, making your "I don't play the game anymore" posts?

If your only reason to hang around is to see if they, perhaps, would add new features that would rekindle your passion for the game, I don't think complaining is going to make that happen any sooner, nor does it contribute anything useful.

What you could do instead is to just do something else for eg. a year and then check if there is new stuff in the game. That, or make positive constructive contributions to the forum.
If someone has fond memories, why not visit the source from time to time. I left about 2 years ago, and returned 5 months ago. I didn't make it a point to bring up the fact that I quit, though it did come up as part of the conversation at times. Old Duck seems to follow the same reasoning I did. This thread just happened to take a bit of a bad turn.
 
I didn't make it a point to bring up the fact that I quit, though it did come up as part of the conversation at times.
These days I usually bring it up as an acknowledgement or even a confession, because when I don't, someone is guaranteed to swoop in on anything I post and point out that I don't play anymore, in an attempt to invalidate whatever argument I'm trying to make, despite being based on years of experience playing the game.

This thread just happened to take a bit of a bad turn.
This thread (and where certain people have taken it) is a bit different, because it's basically an invitation to "ex-boyfriends" to comment, seeing how many pages have been wasting taking potshots at us, even when we're on someone else's social network. I'm actually quite INactive on most of the Elite threads these days (especially compared to 3-4 years ago), with a recent exception being the new blocklist thread. But that's okay, nitpick my posting habits (not you, the other fellow) while Rome burns, I expected no less when I entered this fray. It does kinda prove my original point, however.
 
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On the topic of ex-boyfriends, I'd be very interested in a study / survey / poll that breaks down, statistically-speaking, why people have "divorced" Elite over the years. It would have to be done by someone like D2EA or OA, since it isn't allowed on the forum, and as some have pointed out, we "ex-boyfriends" feel more free to express ourselves in the friendlier social channels like OA's YouTube comment section. As an ex-boyfriend myself, I know that the odds of Elite fixing everything that made me walk away is in the single-digit percentage range, so I'm really not even worth trying to win back. I've made my peace with that.
It's sad that others have to run polls which we all know will in one way or another will be flawed (questions asked, audience reached etc.). Not sure if you were around when this forum actually had polls? They were quiet entertaining and enlightening - my favourite was the 'what age group do you fit into' in the early days - the vast majority were 40+, and that was around 10 years ago!

Not sure when they did away with the polls - I can't remember though think it likely it would have been within the same time frame (+/-1 year) that they shut the DDF down; the alpha and private backers forums started to whither and from the backers I knew back then kind of all felt like the wind had been taken out of their (space) sails.

The MOST reliable poll would be one available through the launcher such that everyone that accessed the game could interact with. That way FD would know the number of those who didn't take part to get an overall view. It would be a great way to guide a game - IMHO. I might be wrong but I don't think it's something they'd be interested in doing. You know, just a hunch and all that.

I can see why folk like D2EA make the videos they do - they have so much passion for this game. Then there are many like myself whose very adolescence involved the original 8-bit version, dreaming for DECADES that it would come back to life. All I can say is that I have had my time in the sun with this game - SO MANY hours, all enjoyable to the maximum. VR was (and still is to anyone who gets the chance) mind blowing.
 
If you don't have anything constructive to contribute, and you don't even play the game, why are you still here, year after year, making your "I don't play the game anymore" posts?

If your only reason to hang around is to see if they, perhaps, would add new features that would rekindle your passion for the game, I don't think complaining is going to make that happen any sooner, nor does it contribute anything useful.

What you could do instead is to just do something else for eg. a year and then check if there is new stuff in the game. That, or make positive constructive contributions to the forum.
Everyone has a right of an opinion , this game is a strange one because many people have a long history with this franchise ( I started on spectrum ) . Im still playing and I'm still disappointed ( as you might of guessed) Everyones opinion counts even those who are wrong ( in my opinion) . We all want the game to be better, Old timers to newcomers .
 
The way to keep people more involved in such new features is to make it a challenge to unlock. A bit like the guardian modules: They are actually a challenge to unlock, and their reward is significant. That's what makes them interesting.
I would like you to take like, fifteen minutes to google anything about unlocking the Guardian modules, and count the number of times you see the word "grind" in that span of time. Putting ship interiors behind any kind of unlock similar to Guardian weapons would cause enough rage in this community to be able to see it from space.
 
The MOST reliable poll would be one available through the launcher such that everyone that accessed the game could interact with. That way FD would know the number of those who didn't take part to get an overall view. It would be a great way to guide a game - IMHO. I might be wrong but I don't think it's something they'd be interested in doing. You know, just a hunch and all that.
Polls can be worded so that they can be biased, we need need a Poll about the wording of said Poll :ROFLMAO:
Thankfully Fdev dont do Polls.

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Dude, get real.
You're making the important point: It is an unofficial mod for a ded game, running from someone's free tier OpenAI account just well enough to make a Youtube video.
It doesn't cost the game publisher anything and when someone makes a screenshot of an NPC going full Tay on them, it doesn't fall back on them, either. When the service connection fails, the content creator can just edit out that part.

I was merely trying to point out that "Stick ChatGPT in the NPCs!!1" is not as easy, cheap, reliable and think-of-the-children-safe as you might think.
Well you're wrong, in fact now I'm testing the modification for Cyberpunk 2077 created by a programmer with gpt. and managed to create new missions, dynamic conversations with NPCs and new intelligence to combat for these NPCs.

you are staying in the past.
 
I would like you to take like, fifteen minutes to google anything about unlocking the Guardian modules, and count the number of times you see the word "grind" in that span of time. Putting ship interiors behind any kind of unlock similar to Guardian weapons would cause enough rage in this community to be able to see it from space.
And your evidence for this is...?

A game is not made interesting by giving everything that it has to offer from the get-go. There has to be some challenge, something to overcome which then provides a reward. It's not rewarding to get every treasure in the game from the second you start it. It's rewarding when you have to go on a long and difficult quest full of challenge, after which you get the rare loot.

People don't go to Beagle Point because it's quick and easy. They go there because it's laborious and challenging. If you could just jump there, it would have nothing interesting about it. Just one system among billions with nothing particular in it. However, because it's laborious and challenging to reach, that's why people go there. It's an achievement.

I don't see many people complaining and raging about not being able to just jump there.
 
why the hell would we have to unlock the interior of a ship I own and fly exactly?

I agree I don't really see ship interiors as something that should be unlockable, that's not the sort of content that mechanic should be applied to. I would purchase ship interiors as part of a DLC even if I felt there was little value in them to support FDEV's continued development, but unlocks for ship interiors just doesn't make sense. Now having an unlockable coffee pot? Maybe accessories could be unlockable rather than purchasable.
 
Lol at unlockable ship interiors.

Not unlike you can use the other 3 seats in your car ONLY if you pick up enough scrap & junk and undertake an archaeological expedition while going about your day to get a mechanic to flip the magic button.

It would just be absolutely nonsensical.
 
Lol at unlockable ship interiors.

Not unlike you can use the other 3 seats in your car ONLY if you pick up enough scrap & junk and undertake an archaeological expedition while going about your day to get a mechanic to flip the magic button.

It would just be absolutely nonsensical.

Or you could pay a monthly fee to have heated seats, wouldn't that be funny.....yes I am talking to you BMW!!!! At least if it was "unlockable" you would have it permanently ;)
 
Anyone that has watched D2EA over the years, knows that the guy threatens to leave the game every couple of months bc some grind of exploit that he has a video for gets fixed/nerfed. Youtubers have their sheep and they will follow them no matter what they say. So he made a poll, so what. He has no more rights or more of an opinion than anyone else that has purchased the game.
Funny thing is though, he slates the game (A lot), yet still plays. He makes videos that will get views and likes for his audience, its not really his opinions or thoughts, all he's bothered about is views, and he'll sell out whenever it suits those views
 
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