A rant about ranters!

Kenneth McGrew

Kenneth McGrew
id go and start a thread ranting about the ranters ranting about the ranters, but someone needs to put £1 into the sarcasm meter before that happens.
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.
 

Qualityoflife

Qualityoflife
scadh said:
There have been a lot of rant threads lately. It seems like everybody else gets to rant and, damnit, I want something to rant about, too! So I'm going to rant about people who rant too much about stupid, non-rant-worthy stuff. I feel like I want to go with the "old man / get off my lawn!" angle here. Rant commencing in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... (whoooosh!)

You know what type of gamers annoy me the most? It's a toss-up between the "Press A to Win!" and "I Want it MY Way!" ranters:

1. Press A to Win!

If you get angry that an investment of time and effort is required before reaching end-game, I dislike you. If you've ever entered a cheat code into a dev console so that you could kill all visible enemies, get infinite gold, obtain chest armor before you've earned it or reveal hidden room X, then you and I wouldn't get along. I've never understood how people can take enjoyment or satisfaction from "beating" something by cheating or taking a short-cut. It's as if the certificate on the wall matters more to them than the accomplishment. Isn't the enjoyment of an activity and the pride from winning more important than the trophy? Yes, you can still eat a fish caught in a barrel, I guess, but the best part about fishing is the fishing. You've robbed yourself of an hour of foreplay for a 10-second climax, as it were. I used to golf with a friend who counted funny. He knew that I knew he did it, but he did it anyway. Being a better golfer than me was less important to him than me THINKING he was a better golfer than me. The worst part is that he WAS better, even without cheating!

Games are meant to challenge. Without challenge, there is no satisfaction. I love turn-based, tactical strategy games and I always play them on Hard difficulty. That doesn't make me smarter or better than people who play on Normal, provided that Normal offers them comparable challenge. If I'm playing X-Com or Gloomhaven (board game), I don't want to win every scenario. I want to lose sometimes. I want setbacks to overcome, permanently-dead soldiers that I must scramble to replace and unexpected hardships that force me to out-strategize my opponent. I want to triumph only after hanging on by the skin of my teeth. That's the fun part. Why would someone want a game to be easy? Imagine a movie where the hero killed the villain in the opening credits and the rest of the movie was just him bragging about it to his friends?

2. I Want it MY Way!

You can't even get things your way at Burger King anymore. If you want every aspect of a game your way, write your own game. Until then, the developers get to decide how their game works. If you don't enjoy the game or its rules, try a different game rather than leaving a negative review. I saw a negative review on Steam yesterday from a guy "LOVES this AWESOME game! EXCEPT that until the developer provides a way for me to change the field of view, it's crap! Downvote." Years ago I was reading a Total Ware: Rome II game forum and some spoiled, entitled brat kid posted a new thread entitled "SQUALOR IS RUINING MY GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Squalor in Rome II is a game mechanic that models the negative side-effects inherent in excessively-rapid growth. Though it's a critical game mechanic central to the development of an empire in a highly-detailed strategy game, it annoyed the kid that he couldn't play the game like the sandbox city-builder he wanted. Rather than LEARNING to play the game, he ranted on the forum in hopes of finding a way to circumvent Creative Assembly's design. After all, since when has clean water, public order and sanitation been necessary for the advancement of a civilization? I shredded him and called into question the legitimacy of the gene pool from which he sprang. He countered thus: "Nope, it's garbage design". Jesus wept.

Learn to live in a world that's not custom-tailored to you, kids. You're not special. None of us are. There is no perfect game any more so than there is a perfect person. Enjoy it for what it is. If you can't, keep searching for something you enjoy more. It's no crime to wish something worked differently (I, for one, REALLY want my ship auto-pilot to find a good landing spot near Guardian ruins and set down there for me instead of me inching back and forth), but knock it off with the absurd sense of entitlement that a developer somehow "owes" you something. Their contract with the purchaser is "Pay for this game, and we'll deliver you this game". Not YOUR game, THIS game. Take it or leave it.


Ahhhh. That was cathartic. I'm going to go have a smoke and I don't even smoke.
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I read tead the whole thing like a stand up comedian doing a bit...entertaining!
 

Carthbet

Carthbet
Brilliant thread guys. :D.

So here is the rant that you can rant about :D.

I don't play elite no more... Esentially I haven't got time to play and do here anything meanigfull.
Example: Looking for materials to upgrade my weapons means I need to find systems that match certain criteria. That takes time (Research, check Yamiks, D2EA, Obsidiant Ant, CMDR Exiguogus and so on...). Then Flying into that system. That takes time (Jumping and all so.. Youtube again). And Hoping that RNGenius will be kind enough to allow me to find High Grade close enough with timer high enough for me to get to it (Me: "Honey, Where is the digital sacrificial lamb", My wife: "Hiding, probably Raxla"). Takes time. Then collecting those mats... Gues what? Takes time :D. So before I got what I need chances are I've already spent good hour or two. Not enough time if My life is busy enough to accomodate 3 or 4 hours a week tops.

And do not kid yourself that You can be succesfull in Elite without Engineering, unless you are young with better reflexes and muscle memory then... potentially You could have some chances for success. I am not those things and I play only for fun and casually (Very casually)

I am not saying that Game is bad. I love Elite. What I am saying is: it become very grindy recently and I believe there should be other options of getting certain things other then: Destroying, looting or hoping you find mission that gives you that specific reward.
Imagine yourself this.... My Car needs new brake pads. I do not go destroying other cars hoping I find some that I could use :D.

So yeah. Currently no more Elite untill I will have some Holidays booked from work, my wife isn't nagging me that something had to be done in the house and my kids aren't asking me to go somewhere. Then, and only then I might think of playing Elite again for those few days of holidays.

In short: Elite is great game but not for casuall players like me. You need to invest time. A lot of it and I have already spent good hour of alloted time on reading this thread and writing this RANT. Have fun with it ladies and gents.
O7 Commanders.
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Carthbet said:
I don't play elite no more... Esentially I haven't got time to play and do here anything meanigfull.
Example: Looking for materials to upgrade my weapons means I need to find systems that match certain criteria. That takes time (Research, check Yamiks, D2EA, Obsidiant Ant, CMDR Exiguogus and so on...).
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Good rant! +1 quite happily.

But...

The above is garbage, honestly. Just by doing fun stuff (rather than relying on information from internet sources that may be designed to maximise your grind) and flying about various systems (In the bubble there are about 30 different systems that I am in regularly - as well as the odd one or ten that are attractive after being sent for missions) and picking up missions both locally and in adjoining systems every type should be available for your advancement pleasure. (and because the choice belongs to yourself, it should be more fun than following someone else's grind list!)

Just approach Odyssey engineering as non-essential, the upgraded suits / weapons (to G3) are fairly common, often with engineering already applied, can be found following the Thursday downtime (I've even found G3 engineered stuff in less fashionable systems on a Wednesday evening - so nobody had been seeking there for a week) and set you up well to take on the more challenging stuff.

Nothing against the youtubers and their 'helpful' videos, just that a little imagination as an individual can provide all they suggest, but by doing one's own thing, rather than somebody elses.

I'll now spend 4 or 5 hours ranting over your rant, naturally! ;)
 
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