With all due respect, literally nothing new was said. This is pretty much an exact copy of Will's post from Ryan's thread, but with more words.Hello Commanders,
We wanted to take some time to address some of the concerns the community has raised regarding the use of cheats in Elite Dangerous.
Cheating in our game is something that we take very seriously, and do not condone. Using a cheat engine, mod, hack etc. is in direct violation of the Terms and Service and EULA agreed to by all players upon setting up a Frontier account. We support honest competition between players, different playstyles and each Commander’s ability to blaze their own trail, and we strive for them to be able to do this in a fair, safe environment.
We continuously work alongside our development and support teams to combat the tools that make cheating possible, and to take action against accounts found to be using them.
As with any online game, combatting cheating is an ongoing process, and something that we are always working against. We work continuously to review and improve the tools, tracking and the safeguards required in order to tackle issues when they arise. We are not able to discuss the specifics of tools and processes that we have, as this would give the cheaters a significant advantage in being able to circumvent these efforts.
When it comes to taking actions against accounts we have identified as using cheats, we review every report on a case by case basis. While there has been a level of discussion regarding these cheats within the community recently, we can assure people that the number of people using these are a very tiny number of players. We are still working on new and improved ways of stopping these cheats and tracking and measuring activity now and in the past.
We strongly advise that no player runs Elite Dangerous using a cheat client, hack, software mod etc as this will put your account at risk now, and in the future.
We also advise against promoting or publicising of any programs which claim to mod/hack or cheat for Elite Dangerous. Doing so can give players a false sense of legitimacy regarding these programs and ultimately lead to increased risk to players accounts. Rest assured that we continue to actively work on and address cheating in all forms and will continue to do so.
If you come across a player you suspect is cheating, please do use the in-game reporting tool to send us that information. You’re also welcome to contact our support team via a ticket to provide supporting evidence such as photos or videos.
Thank you for your time, and fly safe.
Well how would you know? Do you have someone at Frontier feeding you information on people being banned? Considering they are very quiet on banning but it does happen. They don't have to publicize names or a list of players who were banned. Despite that being handy for the rest of us.Remember the engineering cheat/exploit 1 material tier 5 god roles. Frontier would punish those players remove all engineerd equipment, ban players. Havent seen any of that .
Frontier havent done any thing against those cheaters.
I am afraid most of us share your feelings Alec. He pulled the wool over most of our eyes and I was pretty saddened when I heard the newsReally? OK ... I heard his interview and he came across as a very reasonable person. If what you say is true then I've misjudged both him and Frontier and made a of myself in the process!
I'll go back to SRV racing.
That is the elephant in the room. The mechanic here seems to be that unless overt evidence is presented, there does not seem to be a systemic anti-cheat effort. Even when that evidence is presented (BGS-botting), it does not seem like there is a concerted effort to combat cheating.When it comes to taking actions against accounts we have identified as using cheats, we review every report on a case by case basis.
Likewise, I listened to (some) of his interview with Plater and he came across as reasonable.I am afraid most of us share your feelings Alec. He pulled the wool over most of our eyes and I was pretty saddened when I heard the news
The community doesn't have the means to assess any statistics Frontier gives on the matter, though, and based on previous behaviour would just disbelieve any numbers that didn't match their personal beliefs of what the numbers "should" be.Perhaps some statistics on the number of bannings would help the community believe that FDEV is "taking cheating seriously".
But how pointless would be statistics? If we don't trust FD's word, how could we possibly trust any of their statistics? It's almost like begging to be lied to... That would be so easy and cheap for FD (or how would you ever be able to disprove any of these numbers thrown to us?) that the fact they don't do that is more reassuring to me than anything else.That is the elephant in the room. The mechanic here seems to be that unless overt evidence is presented, there does not seem to be a systemic anti-cheat effort. Even when that evidence is presented (BGS-botting), it does not seem like there is a concerted effort to combat cheating.
Perhaps some statistics on the number of bannings would help the community believe that FDEV is "taking cheating seriously".
Would it be better to have some set of filter defining the range of possible stats, and any account demonstrating values outside of that range is autobanned, with autogenerated email defining the reasons for the ban, with an autogenerated support ticket?
Thats the million dollar question. I am afraid FDEV can't tell unless someone flags a person for cheating, or they start messing with more obvious things like jump range, fuel consumption, speed etc.Likewise, I listened to (some) of his interview with Plater and he came across as reasonable.
However, it does beg the question if he'd been using the cheats for months why wasn't he banned before?
They said they would remove all cheated plus all of the same type, legit or not. So if you had one cheated C4 beam and five legit, you'd lose them all.Nah, they never said they would ban anyone if I recall correctly, just remove the offending modules which as I understand, they did.