And what happens when that changes?
Notice A statement on cheating in Elite Dangerous.
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And what happens when that changes?
yea, a strong metaphor indeed 
But apparently everyone thinks that FDev has a Cheats OFF button that they do not want to press.
While the architecture (prone to cheats) and the No Subscription Policy were decided like 5 years ago.
How many people that claim to love this game would actually pay a monthly subscription for each commander they have in the game?
But apparently everyone thinks that FDev has a Cheats OFF button that they do not want to press.
While the architecture (prone to cheats) and the No Subscription Policy were decided like 5 years ago.
How many people that claim to love this game would actually pay a monthly subscription for each commander they have in the game?
What exactly do you do?
Would you like to elaborate on that?
yea, a strong metaphor indeed
But apparently everyone thinks that FDev has a Cheats OFF button that they do not want to press.
While the architecture (prone to cheats) and the No Subscription Policy were decided like 5 years ago.
How many people that claim to love this game would actually pay a monthly subscription for each commander they have in the game?
Depending on the price and what it would provide for, I would!
Sure. What are you going to do if you're ever faced with a cheater? Or do you believe that scenario will never occur?
Ozric
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Yes (as I said in my first reply), no, yes (not sure if you could call doing stupid things in the name of science, or racing, applicable though), yes.
It doesn't affect me, it most certainly does affect people I know and virtually everyone else who I am friends with. I've made my standpoint very clear on cheating over the years and it won't change.
So if you want to answer a question, do you think anyone who cheats should be permabanned? Because if the answer is yes then I would suspect you'll find this forum would be a lot less populated
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Definitely yes. Quality over quantity anytime.So if you want to answer a question, do you think anyone who cheats should be permabanned? Because if the answer is yes then I would suspect you'll find this forum would be a lot less populated
The Replicated Man
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Yes. Frontier should permaban cheaters. The same goes for loggers as well.So if you want to answer a question, do you think anyone who cheats should be permabanned? Because if the answer is yes then I would suspect you'll find this forum would be a lot less populated
I'd be happy with the forums being cleared out of all the Riff-Raff.
If you want to answer a question, do you think anyone who cheats should be permabanned? Because if the answer is yes then I would suspect you'll find this forum would be a lot less populated
Then let the purge commence. The loss of cheaters from a gaming community is no loss at all.
Not sure I would even notice t be honest. I fly mostly small ships with no engineering so am often blown up before I can escape. I would guess the cheater card gets thrown around far more often than it actually occurs.
As far as cheat detection goes, every engine that I know of has problems with false positives including the vaunted Battle Eye so many talk about.
Frontier (and the cheat sites themselves) verify that bans occur so FDev is doing something about it,
Their policy of no naming and shaming (even from them) has been around as long as the game expecting them to start now (especially to assuage the feelings of some players) is probably a stretch.
So for the time being if I think someone is cheating (i would have to get gud first) I will report and move on.
Hanging on to the drama like a dog on a bone would be far more detrimental to my peace of mind.
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Goose4291
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'False positives' in BattleEye in my experience are usually the results of angry 12 yr old E-Sgts banning people from their super-serious Mil-Sim Servers (or bad mod makers not providing a BiKey for their work).
If you can rewrite the post without being derrogatory to those who are not interested in PvP, i will read it.
Shrug and move on. Like I said, I stopped bothering about whether I could directly stop someone affecting the BGS a long time ago and I don't cry if someone destroys my pixel spaceship. Its a game, if it gets to the point where I can't play it, which has happened a few times in the past, then I will put it down and play something else and come back to it later.
The Replicated Man
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It's easy for FDEV to determine a normal 15 second log from a taskkill. In regards to the ISP problems you mentioned, that would be up to Frontier to take into account.
No, i think you misunderstand. Can the bots that exist at the moment select the right CZ (presumably high for efficiency) and run back and forth when the CZ is over? Are they that advanced? I understand how it might not be hard for PP runs, since it simple destination programming and collection/delivery of stuff.
I'm thinking from a programming perspective and wondering how easy it would be to do such a thing in relation to CZ to make it work efficiently, and not just sit in CZ shooting targets that are not there or even in range.
Are you speculating about how capable these bots are, or have you investigated them and determined they can do this sort of thing?
Its the same for mission running. How can a bot determine if its a mission worth taking and that it can be completed and then select the right reward for max inf. What missions would they be capable of? And what happens if the mission board doesn't have any missions it can do?
And they will be right back with a new account tied to a new email for a low low price as they bought spare accounts during sales.
Sure, the accounts need to be permabanned once they are confirmed to be cheaters, but its not a full solution. They need better detection routines.
The Replicated Man
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IP and Hardware Ban. Kinda hard to get a alt account when your Harddrive's been blacklisted.
I do not know with new style CZs. AFK turretboat heal beamers have been demonstrated on Healies4Feelies.
I'm not interested in PvP and I don't feel that his post is derrogatory, perhaps you should grow a thicker skin?
So if you want to answer a question, do you think anyone who cheats should be permabanned? Because if the answer is yes then I would suspect you'll find this forum would be a lot less populated
All things considered, absolutely.
Don't let the door hit yah where the good lord split yah, I say!
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