Just like you, I can 'enable' quite a lot in the name of the greater good.
But go on, I'm curious what you have in mind?
AEGIS Core faction sighted at Sol
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But go on, I'm curious what you have in mind?
No current engineer can do G5 interdictors, so going to Tiana you're losing only 1 grade and having access to a lot moreWhat you say about ranking missions is totally irrelevant. I am already King and Admiral, why would I still go there if it was just for rank up? It has RICH MISSIONS, period. Nothing to do with ranking. When I want to make Biotech conductors, MEF, EFCs, I toss a coin between Sneider Enterprise (TZ Arietis) and Galileo (the Moon, Sol), because I know I'll find a mission I WANT to do that rewards what I want. When I just want to do some federal dirty work I'll go see if the President needs any Independents killed.
Tiana Fortune cannot apply special effects to FSDs (avoiding a long trip to either Farseer or Martuuk, if you are in the core systems), nor engineer G5 FSD interdictors? You've confused me here, because even if she was superior, which she isn't, I've never visited her except to rank her up for completeness, and moreover, she's not in Sol...we're talking about useful stuff 'in Sol'.
Outfitting is irrelevant, the core Fed systems have the highest concentration of High Tech systems of any other area of the bubble to my knowledge, plus it's only 70ly to Shinny, something most ships can do without a scoop.
G5: SCANNERS
G5: SENSORS
G3: FRAME SHIFT DRIVE INTERDICTOR
G3: DETAILED SURFACE SCANNER
+ other stuff that can be useful but most likely isn't ever used
vs
G4: FRAME SHIFT DRIVE INTERDICTOR
G3: FRAME SHIFT DRIVE
Going to Dekker for FSDs is like going to Qwent for distros, sure it gets it done but it's not as good as it could be
Just like you, I can 'enable' quite a lot in the name of the greater good.
But go on, I'm curious what you have in mind?
It's not so much what I have in mind so much as the funny stink I've smelt since the start.
Thargoids show up in the Pleiades, not really hostile, and our first reaction is to "GIVE EVERYBODY GUNS" and go rollin' out on some holy crusade. I mean, I jumped right in too because I wanted to see what's what but it wasn't so much a war as a culling of a herd, like our near complete purge of the bison in the 19th century.
Mindless slaughter, yah know? That's no way to fight a war. Heck, kinda looks like we started it.
Then you've got the transmitters and ships and everything else poppin' up right before the Thargoids show up to wack a system. You've got AEGIS getting their butts handed to them everywhere (Socho, the Pleiades) and somehow they still keep on keepin' on.
It just stinks. As far as to what end, it's hard to say. I honestly can't see that far ahead. But with things like the Zurara and the Dynasty Project and Jaques' original sabotage?
Somethin' ain't right.
And in the lore that isn't canon anymore, we absolutely did start the first war
If Aegis are being hunted why hide in Sol? you dont let the enemy in the front door
Well, I never went to attack a thargoid, they came to us. If they were interested in peace, they wouldn't have been provoked by a single organisation thinking it represents all mankind. The idea that we somehow brought this on ourselves by invading space they had earmarked for future territory, is not lost on me, and fine, they have a valid point, let's have a fight about it. Everything else is tin-foil hat brigade, because, bottom line, they're here to destroy us now, and I don't want to be destroyed. Once the killing starts, it rarely matters why, until both sides have had enough, such that they want to discuss it rather than kill each other. Let's see what happens in a year's time.
"Lore that isn't canon anymore."
I know this is full tinfoil, but "isn't canon anymore" my butt!
Considering our history with them and the Mycoid I can't say I'm surprised they don't like us all that much. Except for the ones that drop meta alloys, which I can't say I really understand yet either.
Also we're not dealing with humans, but something alien. I'm seeing a lot of anthropomorphism above. They don't think like us!
That's what I've been told, though it does state the following"Lore that isn't canon anymore."
I know this is full tinfoil, but "isn't canon anymore" my butt!
Pre 3125 – Unconfirmed suggestions that some kind of covert war was started with Thargoids, ostensibly by a trigger-happy Fleet Commander in the Veliaze system.
Who's to say the Thargoids started the hostilities towards us this time.
Who's to say the Thargoids started the hostilities towards the Guardians in the past.
Why is it that the first encounters (hyperdiction) weren't realy hostile at all?
They could have killed us right on the spot after scanning us, they already knew who we are and what we're capable of (Mycoid).
Inra definitely made them hate us as much as they can.
Aegis behaves themselfs just as Inra did, make as many anti Thargoid weapons as possible and they try to get as many manufacturers invold as possible too.
I wouldn't be surprised if Aegis has it's own Mycoid kinda program.
I'm no Thargoid lover and yes I think we needed to prepare ourselfs for an eventual escalation but imho Aegis/Inra/The Federation started shooting way to early.
By now it's to late to look for an alternative solution because the mutual destruction already started.
I think we missed another opportunity by taking up arms so quickly.
Eventually the Thargoids will show to be to strong for us and Aegis/Inra has another excuse to use weapons of selective mass destruction, making the stray Thargoids even more determined to kill us.
I know the old lore isn't exactly canon anymore but Thargoids use to live with humans in the past.
This is what Aegis truly is, Empire must act on it self, gather forces and defend Empire from Thargoids without aegis.
Stand As One! For the Empire!
I think you're trying to tell me something I'm not arguing about.
I'm well aware what all the engineers offer. To me, as someone who lives near sol, having Dekker there for FSD SPECIAL EFFECT combined with the best FSD interdictor engineering, makes her a selling point of Sol, and another reason why it's not a worthless system, as you posited. I'm not saying anything else except that for me, where I live in the bubble, I will never, ever have to visit Fortune again, whereas I will visit Dekker once a month or so for her unique services that are used on every one of my ships. I don't care where the main recipe is, I have it pinned from Martuuk, as she offers no other useful engineering whatsoever.
I don't disagree, that it looks like people jumped the gun and escalated things unnecessarily, I'll even go as far as to say they were nothing but bloodthirsty wramongers. But this would be a rather boring game if they hadn't, eh? And waht's done is done. they're here (the thargoids) and we need to defend ourselves.
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Stop arguing and unite under the flag of Empire! Empire is the only hope for humanity!
I don't anthropomorphise anything!! I simply see result. We shoot some barnacles, they shoot some of us, we shoot some of them, they shoot some more of us. That's how every war starts, no side ever says 'oh, well, since we started it, let's stop researching how to win this war'...it's black and white, they are killing us, we must defend ourselves. Attacking Aegis as an organisation may be cool and anti-establishment and everything, but without them we might be screwed (who knows what form an alternative coulfd take, I might be open to one if I knew about it?)
He said, she said, it said.
Irrelevant.
Kill them all, purge with fire.
Irrelevant.
Kill them all, purge with fire.
Empire's 10 ply, bud.
And if we're screwed with AEGIS, what then? Not saying we shouldn't fight the Thargoids per se, I'd just like to know if we're stuck between a rock and a hard place.
If we are, we deal with the rock first and the hard place after. Folks like that gotta be held to account.