Alien archeology and other mysteries: Temporary discussion hub

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Ozric

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As we broke the other thread again, and we have a new shiny home, we are looking at restructuring the way the threads are collated. As we will take a few days to do this, we thought it would be a good idea to put up a temporary discussion hub. Don't get too attached :)

The first thread is here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038,
the second is here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998,
the third here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726
the fourth here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=195658,
the fifth here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049,
and the sixth here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...d-6-The-Canonn
and the seventh here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...d-7-The-Canonn
and the eighth here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...d-8-The-Canonn
and the ninth here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...d-9-The-Canonn
and the tenth here - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/355713-Alien-archeology-and-other-mysteries-Thread-10-The-Canonn
 
Good luck for the reboot.
Keep up the good work to all contributor/former hosts/canonneers and silent audience and don't let gone all to other platforms.

We salute you!
 
Here's hoping my thread eventually get's a sticky - I don't mind re-naming the title of it to something more appropriate (like: The Guardian Research Division). I think the Guardian stuff will get swamped (already has, really) by all the Thargoid stuff and it isn't represented too well in the old mega-threads run by Canonn (because there's just so much information, everything has become a haystack, and if you don't keep up with the mega-thread, lots of stuff gets over-looked) - a little variation goes a long way :)
 
Here's hoping my thread eventually get's a sticky - I don't mind re-naming the title of it to something more appropriate (like: The Guardian Research Division). I think the Guardian stuff will get swamped (already has, really) by all the Thargoid stuff and it isn't represented too well in the old mega-threads run by Canonn (because there's just so much information, everything has become a haystack, and if you don't keep up with the mega-thread, lots of stuff gets over-looked) - a little variation goes a long way :)
Similar to the rift stuff tbf. It's easier to point people to the required threads ie your guardian thread and the rift thread if people where to require or add information needed to them.
 
So where do the permanent discussions go :D

Just realised I'm currently in the system that the Gnosis is jumping into tomorrow - should I rush across to Varati ... to get a lift back tomorrow [hehe]
 
Back on topic: Has anyone mapped "Non-human signal source" distribution yet?

Has anyone started mapping where the "Non-human signal source: [threat 5]" POIs appear?

We know that they're around Merope etc. but flying back to the bubble last night the last one I saw was at approximately 90Ly-100Ly from Merope.

Anyone found one further away?
 
Has anyone started mapping where the "Non-human signal source: [threat 5]" POIs appear?

We know that they're around Merope etc. but flying back to the bubble last night the last one I saw was at approximately 90Ly-100Ly from Merope.

Anyone found one further away?
Would be handy to name systems, if we're building a list. I've mainly heard Asterope, been to a few US sites (i.e. within the UA shell) and seen nothing. We could have a separate thread for this ;)

Edit: Or use the Canonn report form: https://report.canonn.technology/
 
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Alien codes decryption attempts

Hello all! Here my two pences to the investigation!
I have been checking the numbers that appear when we scan the alien ship. I have done the following:

1) Copy the number (Duh, captain obvious!)
2) Use a converter from octal to text.
3) Caesar Cypher

I have not found anything yet, but maybe will help someone else :).


Here are my results:

Sample 1:
Thargoid, aggressive.
164 162 145 146 141 143 164 141 161 164 162 145 164 157 162 150 165 154 146 141 143 040 165 156
___________________________

Text:
trefactaqtretorhulfac un

___________________________

Cesar cypher (brute force):

+1SQDEZBSZPSQDSNQGTKEZBTM
+2RPCDYARYORPCRMPFSJDYASL
+3QOBCXZQXNQOBQLOERICXZRK
+4PNABWYPWMPNAPKNDQHBWYQJ
+5OMZAVXOVLOMZOJMCPGAVXPI
+6NLYZUWNUKNLYNILBOFZUWOH
+7MKXYTVMTJMKXMHKANEYTVNG
+8LJWXSULSILJWLGJZMDXSUMF
+9KIVWRTKRHKIVKFIYLCWRTLE
+10JHUVQSJQGJHUJEHXKBVQSKD
+11IGTUPRIPFIGTIDGWJAUPRJC
+12HFSTOQHOEHFSHCFVIZTOQIB
+13GERSNPGNDGERGBEUHYSNPHA
+14FDQRMOFMCFDQFADTGXRMOGZ
+15ECPQLNELBECPEZCSFWQLNFY
+16DBOPKMDKADBODYBREVPKMEX
+17CANOJLCJZCANCXAQDUOJLDW
+18BZMNIKBIYBZMBWZPCTNIKCV
+19AYLMHJAHXAYLAVYOBSMHJBU
+20ZXKLGIZGWZXKZUXNARLGIAT
+21YWJKFHYFVYWJYTWMZQKFHZS
+22XVIJEGXEUXVIXSVLYPJEGYR
+23WUHIDFWDTWUHWRUKXOIDFXQ
+24VTGHCEVCSVTGVQTJWNHCEWP
+25USFGBDUBRUSFUPSIVMGBDVO

Sample 2:
From Thargon Swarm, some numbers were barely readable, some mistakes may be present.
150 168 154 146 141 143 040 165 156 164 141 101 164 167 102 150 165 164 164 141 151 158 080 080
_______________________________

Text:
hlfac untaAtwBhuttai


______________________________

Caesar cypher (brute force)

+1GKEZBTMSZZSVAGTSSZH
+2FJDYASLRYYRUZFSRRYG
+3EICXZRKQXXQTYERQQXF
+4DHBWYQJPWWPSXDQPPWE
+5CGAVXPIOVVORWCPOOVD
+6BFZUWOHNUUNQVBONNUC
+7AEYTVNGMTTMPUANMMTB
+8ZDXSUMFLSSLOTZMLLSA
+9YCWRTLEKRRKNSYLKKRZ
+10XBVQSKDJQQJMRXKJJQY
+11WAUPRJCIPPILQWJIIPX
+12VZTOQIBHOOHKPVIHHOW
+13UYSNPHAGNNGJOUHGGNV
+14TXRMOGZFMMFINTGFFMU
+15SWQLNFYELLEHMSFEELT
+16RVPKMEXDKKDGLREDDKS
+17QUOJLDWCJJCFKQDCCJR
+18PTNIKCVBIIBEJPCBBIQ
+19OSMHJBUAHHADIOBAAHP
+20NRLGIATZGGZCHNAZZGO
+21MQKFHZSYFFYBGMZYYFN
+22LPJEGYRXEEXAFLYXXEM
+23KOIDFXQWDDWZEKXWWDL
+24JNHCEWPVCCVYDJWVVCK
+25IMGBDVOUBBUXCIVUUBJ

Sample 3:
Thargoid, non aggressive.

146 141 143 156 000 000 164 157 162 146 141 143 164 141 151 146 141 143 154 040 163 150 165 154

__________________

Text:
facntorfactaifacl shul
__________________

Caesar Cypher (Brute force):

+1EZBMSNQEZBSZHEZBKRGTK
+2DYALRMPDYARYGDYAJQFSJ
+3CXZKQLOCXZQXFCXZIPERI
+4BWYJPKNBWYPWEBWYHODQH
+5AVXIOJMAVXOVDAVXGNCPG
+6ZUWHNILZUWNUCZUWFMBOF
+7YTVGMHKYTVMTBYTVELANE
+8XSUFLGJXSULSAXSUDKZMD
+9WRTEKFIWRTKRZWRTCJYLC
+10VQSDJEHVQSJQYVQSBIXKB
+11UPRCIDGUPRIPXUPRAHWJA
+12TOQBHCFTOQHOWTOQZGVIZ
+13SNPAGBESNPGNVSNPYFUHY
+14RMOZFADRMOFMURMOXETGX
+15QLNYEZCQLNELTQLNWDSFW
+16PKMXDYBPKMDKSPKMVCREV
+17OJLWCXAOJLCJROJLUBQDU
+18NIKVBWZNIKBIQNIKTAPCT
+19MHJUAVYMHJAHPMHJSZOBS
+20LGITZUXLGIZGOLGIRYNAR
+21KFHSYTWKFHYFNKFHQXMZQ
+22JEGRXSVJEGXEMJEGPWLYP
+23IDFQWRUIDFWDLIDFOVKXO
+24HCEPVQTHCEVCKHCENUJWN
+25GBDOUPSGBDUBJGBDMTIVM
 
Too bad Elite's not a bit more advanced. I would 100% sacrifice my commander to be beamed aboard a Thargoid vessel in an escape pod, just to see what they do with people.
 
Hello all! Here my two pences to the investigation!
I have been checking the numbers that appear when we scan the alien ship. I have done the following:

1) Copy the number (Duh, captain obvious!)
2) Use a converter from octal to text.
3) Caesar Cypher

I have not found anything yet, but maybe will help someone else :).


Here are my results:

Sample 1:
Thargoid, aggressive.
164 162 145 146 141 143 164 141 161 164 162 145 164 157 162 150 165 154 146 141 143 040 165 156
___________________________

Text:
trefactaqtretorhulfac un

___________________________

Cesar cypher (brute force):

+1SQDEZBSZPSQDSNQGTKEZBTM
+2RPCDYARYORPCRMPFSJDYASL
+3QOBCXZQXNQOBQLOERICXZRK
+4PNABWYPWMPNAPKNDQHBWYQJ
+5OMZAVXOVLOMZOJMCPGAVXPI
+6NLYZUWNUKNLYNILBOFZUWOH
+7MKXYTVMTJMKXMHKANEYTVNG
+8LJWXSULSILJWLGJZMDXSUMF
+9KIVWRTKRHKIVKFIYLCWRTLE
+10JHUVQSJQGJHUJEHXKBVQSKD
+11IGTUPRIPFIGTIDGWJAUPRJC
+12HFSTOQHOEHFSHCFVIZTOQIB
+13GERSNPGNDGERGBEUHYSNPHA
+14FDQRMOFMCFDQFADTGXRMOGZ
+15ECPQLNELBECPEZCSFWQLNFY
+16DBOPKMDKADBODYBREVPKMEX
+17CANOJLCJZCANCXAQDUOJLDW
+18BZMNIKBIYBZMBWZPCTNIKCV
+19AYLMHJAHXAYLAVYOBSMHJBU
+20ZXKLGIZGWZXKZUXNARLGIAT
+21YWJKFHYFVYWJYTWMZQKFHZS
+22XVIJEGXEUXVIXSVLYPJEGYR
+23WUHIDFWDTWUHWRUKXOIDFXQ
+24VTGHCEVCSVTGVQTJWNHCEWP
+25USFGBDUBRUSFUPSIVMGBDVO

Sample 2:
From Thargon Swarm, some numbers were barely readable, some mistakes may be present.
150 168 154 146 141 143 040 165 156 164 141 101 164 167 102 150 165 164 164 141 151 158 080 080
_______________________________

Text:
hlfac untaAtwBhuttai


______________________________

Caesar cypher (brute force)

+1GKEZBTMSZZSVAGTSSZH
+2FJDYASLRYYRUZFSRRYG
+3EICXZRKQXXQTYERQQXF
+4DHBWYQJPWWPSXDQPPWE
+5CGAVXPIOVVORWCPOOVD
+6BFZUWOHNUUNQVBONNUC
+7AEYTVNGMTTMPUANMMTB
+8ZDXSUMFLSSLOTZMLLSA
+9YCWRTLEKRRKNSYLKKRZ
+10XBVQSKDJQQJMRXKJJQY
+11WAUPRJCIPPILQWJIIPX
+12VZTOQIBHOOHKPVIHHOW
+13UYSNPHAGNNGJOUHGGNV
+14TXRMOGZFMMFINTGFFMU
+15SWQLNFYELLEHMSFEELT
+16RVPKMEXDKKDGLREDDKS
+17QUOJLDWCJJCFKQDCCJR
+18PTNIKCVBIIBEJPCBBIQ
+19OSMHJBUAHHADIOBAAHP
+20NRLGIATZGGZCHNAZZGO
+21MQKFHZSYFFYBGMZYYFN
+22LPJEGYRXEEXAFLYXXEM
+23KOIDFXQWDDWZEKXWWDL
+24JNHCEWPVCCVYDJWVVCK
+25IMGBDVOUBBUXCIVUUBJ

Sample 3:
Thargoid, non aggressive.

146 141 143 156 000 000 164 157 162 146 141 143 164 141 151 146 141 143 154 040 163 150 165 154

__________________

Text:
facntorfactaifacl shul
__________________

Caesar Cypher (Brute force):

+1EZBMSNQEZBSZHEZBKRGTK
+2DYALRMPDYARYGDYAJQFSJ
+3CXZKQLOCXZQXFCXZIPERI
+4BWYJPKNBWYPWEBWYHODQH
+5AVXIOJMAVXOVDAVXGNCPG
+6ZUWHNILZUWNUCZUWFMBOF
+7YTVGMHKYTVMTBYTVELANE
+8XSUFLGJXSULSAXSUDKZMD
+9WRTEKFIWRTKRZWRTCJYLC
+10VQSDJEHVQSJQYVQSBIXKB
+11UPRCIDGUPRIPXUPRAHWJA
+12TOQBHCFTOQHOWTOQZGVIZ
+13SNPAGBESNPGNVSNPYFUHY
+14RMOZFADRMOFMURMOXETGX
+15QLNYEZCQLNELTQLNWDSFW
+16PKMXDYBPKMDKSPKMVCREV
+17OJLWCXAOJLCJROJLUBQDU
+18NIKVBWZNIKBIQNIKTAPCT
+19MHJUAVYMHJAHPMHJSZOBS
+20LGITZUXLGIZGOLGIRYNAR
+21KFHSYTWKFHYFNKFHQXMZQ
+22JEGRXSVJEGXEMJEGPWLYP
+23IDFQWRUIDFWDLIDFOVKXO
+24HCEPVQTHCEVCKHCENUJWN
+25GBDOUPSGBDUBJGBDMTIVM
This was solved yesterday :( There's info in the faq https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/379296-2-4-Thargoid-FAQ - basically the message is scrambled groups of 3 letters that can be arranged into a message from the 1984 Elite Manual about Thargoid Ship Characteristics

Edit: It was in the threadnaught - this post is the key https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/355713-Alien-archeology-and-other-mysteries-Thread-10-The-Canonn?p=5950089&viewfull=1#post5950089




I like the announcement you get when docking at the Gnosis. v.nice FD

 
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This was solved yesterday :( There's info in the faq https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/379296-2-4-Thargoid-FAQ - basically the message is scrambled groups of 3 letters that can be arranged into a message from the 1984 Elite Manual about Thargoid Ship Characteristics.
[/spoiler]
:(

Well, anyway: I recorded some of the thargoid´s reaction to the drop of a Thargoid Probe. One was aggressive, the other wasn´t, and also some observations on the thargoid´s characteristics and behavior in combat.

[video=youtube;-bsHfgHhKMY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bsHfgHhKMY&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 
While out investigating the new USSs, I encountered several Thargoids.

I was struck by how alive they seem. It doesn't feel like watching a vehicle so much as like watching an animal.

The threat display when you get too close is amazingly clear in meaning, even though I've never seen anything like it. It's like a bear rearing up on its hind legs -- you know you better back off.

It's all very impressive and fascinating.

It will be interesting to piece together what their motives are, and how that affects us.
 
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