Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Tessa R Act

Tessa R Act
QorbeQ said:
What's the range on spotting the tiniest hint of something from a distance? I thought it was only a couple of km max?


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with my settings (all Ultra, except bloom & blurr of, Terrain material low, teraain work max) i can spot Elmo from 6 km alt and some 10 km away (daylight) and 4 km Alt / 6 km out at nighttime. Propose to everybody who goes searching to find their optimum settings/distances at known sites first
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
So, taken a read through the article now... think these are the key takehomes:

He claims to have information that will help us find more sites, but he's keeping it close to his chest. Only he and the pilot know where we're going. It's like he's afraid someone will take credit for his discovery. We've been scanning lifeless planetoids for days, eyeballing the ground for locations.

He keeps reciting the same little speech: "Xeno-achaeology has moved on. The days of exploring the outer reaches, only occasionally finding something of value, are behind us. I have found the key."
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There's actually a way to pinpoint the sites without the MK1 eyeball.

The Guardians could well have had a huge civilisation, with hundreds of sites – maybe thousands – in this part of space. The similarities across different sites are comparable to the way we reuse certain structures. After all, how many Coriolis stations are there in the galaxy?
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Stop whinging about duplicate sites ;)

There are basically three different types of site, most of which have a different codex layout. Melville thinks that each type of site fulfilled a different function. He also thinks the Guardians were the dominant species in this region of space. But he's not content with this discovery. He wants to keep going.
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We've had bad luck in getting the same layout for every dupe so far.
 

MadDogMurdock

MadDogMurdock
CMDR Dreamstate said:
3 New Systems to Search: Synuefe LY-I b42-2, Synuefe NL-N c23-4 and Synuefe TP-F b44-0

NEW *3 NEW SYSTEMS - POSSIBLE NEW RUIN LAYOUT* NEW

Synuefe LY-I b42-2

http://i.imgur.com/KvXd7p2.png

Best Criteria: Matches Temperature and No Volcanism of Previous Sites.

C 2
C 3 (IMO 3rd planet is more likely)
C 4
C 5
C 6 (IMO 6th planet is more likely)

D 3 (IMO 3rd planet is more likely; though also not likely, 969km radius)

E 1 (IMO not likely; 0.0003 E-Masses/461 radius)
E 2 (IMO not likely; 0.0004 E-Masses/468 radius)

BTW, here's an update on my reply earlier for best searches:

Systems and Planet Search Criteria:

IC 2391 SECTOR GW-V B2-4

Best Criteria: Matches Temperature and No Volcanism of Previous Sites.

A 2
A 3 (IMO 3rd planet is more likely)
A 4
2 B

Synuefe XR-H D11-102

Best Criteria: Matches Temperature and No Volcanism of Previous Sites.

2 C
2 D
2 E
4 D

Synuefe XO-P c22-17

Best Criteria: Matches Temperature and No Volcanism of Previous Sites.

AB 3 (IMO 3rd planet is more likely)
AB 3 A (IMO Moon, less likely.)
C 2
D 2
D 4

Synuefe ZL-J d10-119

Best Criteria: Matches Temperature and No Volcanism of Previous Sites.

7 C
9 C (IMO 3rd planet is more like / 9th main body is more likely)
9 D

IC 2391 Sector ZE-A D101

Best Criteria: Matches Temperature and No Volcanism of Previous Sites.

C 5
C 6 (IMO 6th planet is more likely)
C 7
C 8



I will now head off to the new systems, scan them, then get some screenshots in (and search for the best planets to add to the list).
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Please don't repeat the entire post every time you post
 

DialBforBiscuit

D
Factabulous said:
Not that much to get excited about - as Melville points out - just like seeing another Coriolis station :)
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Not talking about the shapes of sites, talking about the cluster of systems. If the Guardians were migrating. The spot they started at would be very dense with structures. More dense than the systems we know about now.
 
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Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Jmanis said:
So, taken a read through the article now... think these are the key takehomes:

There's actually a way to pinpoint the sites without the MK1 eyeball.
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As much as I want you to be right about this, I think the bit about "scanning lifeless planetoids for days, eyeballing the ground for locations" suggests that we're stuck with the ol' Mk1.


Jmanis said:
Stop whinging about duplicate sites ;)
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Yep!
 

Patau82

Patau82
This isn't a research vessel anymore – it's a prison. All means of communicating with the rest of the galaxy have been disabled. Melville has taken control of ship. His obsession has doomed us all.

I'm transmitting these records in the hope that someone finds them and comes to our rescue. But the chances of that are slim.
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Think ill be heading out with my convoy raiding python when i get home ;)
 

Alkibiades

Alkibiades



stats of landables

Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 A 3, 134,2 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0570em, 2484,6 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,4g, Surface Temperature:294,9K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:22.8, nickel:17.2, sulphur:16.1, carbon:13.5,
chromium:10.3, phosphorus:8.6, vanadium:5.6, arsenic:2.1, molybdenum:1.5, tin:1.5,
technetium:0.8},

Semi Major Axis:40235175,9km, Eccentricity:0.0006, Orbital Inclination:0.017818,
Periapsis:147.927643, 72,0 days orbit, 72,0 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 1, 1986,5 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0248em, 1892,3 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,3g, Surface Temperature:352,0K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:21.1, nickel:16, sulphur:14.7, carbon:12.3,
chromium:9.5, manganese:8.7, phosphorus:7.9, zinc:5.7, molybdenum:1.4, tin:1.4, yttrium:1.3},

Semi Major Axis:7703861,8km, Eccentricity:5.2E-05, Orbital Inclination:-0.145746,
Periapsis:343.216644, 8,7 days orbit, 8,7 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 1 a, 1986,5 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
Rocky body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, major silicate vapour geysers volcanism,
Mass:0,0017em, 823,9 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,1g, Surface Temperature:352,0K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:20.6, sulphur:18.4, nickel:15.6, carbon:15.4,
phosphorus:9.9, zinc:5.6, germanium:5.4, vanadium:5.1, tellurium:1.4, molybdenum:1.3,
tin:1.3},

Semi Major Axis:8066,8km, Eccentricity:0, Orbital Inclination:75.453644,
Periapsis:77.379128, 0,5 days orbit, 0,5 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 2, 2043,3 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0096em, 1394,0 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,2g, Surface Temperature:313,4K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:21.1, nickel:16, sulphur:14.9, carbon:12.5,
chromium:9.5, manganese:8.7, phosphorus:8, zinc:5.7, molybdenum:1.4, tin:1.4, antimony:0.9},

Semi Major Axis:10329580,5km, Eccentricity:0.000138, Orbital Inclination:-0.007792,
Periapsis:98.02018, 13,6 days orbit, 13,5 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 3, 2035,7 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0315em, 2052,0 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,3g, Surface Temperature:283,8K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:24.4, nickel:18.4, sulphur:17.2, carbon:14.4,
phosphorus:9.2, zinc:6.6, selenium:2.7, arsenic:2.3, cadmium:1.9, molybdenum:1.6,
tellurium:1.3},

Semi Major Axis:13365113,9km, Eccentricity:0.000392, Orbital Inclination:0.007871,
Periapsis:14.644196, 20,0 days orbit, 19,9 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 5, 2051,2 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0163em, 1657,1 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,2g, Surface Temperature:229,7K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:22.7, nickel:17.1, sulphur:16, carbon:13.4,
chromium:10.2, phosphorus:8.6, zinc:6.2, arsenic:2.1, tin:1.5, yttrium:1.4, mercury:1},

Semi Major Axis:24794,9km, Eccentricity:0.182998, Orbital Inclination:0.470322, Periapsis:189.836548,
9,3 days orbit, 14,2 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 6, 2051,4 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0125em, 1516,1 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,2g, Surface Temperature:229,7K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:22, nickel:16.6, sulphur:15.5, carbon:13,
chromium:9.9, phosphorus:8.3, zinc:6, germanium:4.6, molybdenum:1.4, tin:1.4, tellurium:1.2},

Semi Major Axis:32551,1km, Eccentricity:0.182998, Orbital Inclination:0.470322, Periapsis:9.836545,
9,3 days orbit, 12,4 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 7, 2056,1 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0137em, 1565,9 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,2g, Surface Temperature:210,4K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:21.2, nickel:16, sulphur:14.9, carbon:12.5,
chromium:9.5, manganese:8.7, phosphorus:8, zinc:5.8, niobium:1.4, tungsten:1.2, technetium:0.8},

Semi Major Axis:30940979,2km, Eccentricity:0.00097, Orbital Inclination:-0.056382,
Periapsis:168.417923, 70,4 days orbit, 70,2 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 8, 2004,0 ls from arrival point, Not Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0165em, 1660,9 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,2g, Surface Temperature:192,3K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {iron:22, nickel:16.6, sulphur:15.5, carbon:13,
chromium:9.9, phosphorus:8.3, zinc:6, germanium:4.6, molybdenum:1.4, tin:1.4, tellurium:1.2},

Semi Major Axis:40746999,8km, Eccentricity:0.003654, Orbital Inclination:0.321305,
Periapsis:4.822974, 106,4 days orbit, 4,1 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 9, 2050,0 ls from arrival point, Not Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
High metal content body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0398em, 2209,0 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,3g, Surface Temperature:179,9K,
Surface Pressure:47,1p, Landable, {iron:23.2, nickel:17.5, sulphur:16.2, carbon:13.6,
phosphorus:8.7, zinc:6.3, vanadium:5.7, germanium:4.8, cadmium:1.8, tungsten:1.3,
technetium:0.8},

Semi Major Axis:50650640,4km, Eccentricity:0.000937, Orbital Inclination:-0.349467,
Periapsis:277.385651, 147,4 days orbit, 2,5 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 B 9 a, 2049,9 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
Rocky body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism, Mass:0,0014em,
770,3 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,1g, Surface Temperature:179,7K, Surface Pressure:0,0p,
Landable, {iron:19.3, sulphur:17.1, nickel:14.6, carbon:14.4, phosphorus:9.2, chromium:8.7,
manganese:8, zinc:5.2, cadmium:1.5, antimony:1.1, tungsten:1.1},

Semi Major Axis:76065,9km,
Eccentricity:0, Orbital Inclination:-78.489174, Periapsis:168.920181, 11,9 days orbit,
12,1 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 AB 2 a, 8513,1 ls from arrival point, Not Tidally Locked,
Not Terrraformable, Icy body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism,
Mass:0,0097em, 1886,8 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,1g, Surface Temperature:34,3K,
Surface Pressure:0,0p, Landable, {sulphur:27.2, carbon:22.8, phosphorus:14.6, iron:11.9,
nickel:9, manganese:4.9, selenium:4.2, germanium:3.1, tellurium:0.8, molybdenum:0.8,
tungsten:0.7},

Semi Major Axis:4510600,7km, Eccentricity:0, Orbital Inclination:-61.293297,
Periapsis:167.16629, 1101,0 days orbit, 0,9 days rotation

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Scan Synuefe NL-N c23-4 C 7 a, 122335,6 ls from arrival point, Tidally Locked, Not Terrraformable,
Icy body planet class, No Atmosphere, Atmosphere Type:None, No Volcanism, Mass:0,0912em,
3915,8 km radius, Surface Gravity:0,2g, Surface Temperature:44,9K, Surface Pressure:0,9p,
Landable, {sulphur:27.5, carbon:23.1, phosphorus:14.8, iron:12.1, nickel:9.1, manganese:5,
zinc:3.3, vanadium:3, cadmium:0.9, niobium:0.8, technetium:0.4},
Semi Major Axis:1211647,1km,
Eccentricity:0, Orbital Inclination:83.951614, Periapsis:318.112274, 131,1 days orbit,
135,7 days rotation
 
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Hironichu

Hironichu
8th February 3303

This isn't a research vessel anymore – it's a prison. All means of communicating with the rest of the galaxy have been disabled. Melville has taken control of ship. His obsession has doomed us all.

I'm transmitting these records in the hope that someone finds them and comes to our rescue. But the chances of that are slim.
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Guys, we probably need to find the Ship of Melville first !
 

MadDogMurdock

MadDogMurdock
Thatchinho said:
Why not? Every site so far is tidally locked. (The original is, it just appears to be concealed by the way Galmap does evaluation of whether to say 'Tidally Locked')
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No, they're not. The dwarf star that the 1st planet rotates around rises and sets, therefore the planet is not tidally locked to it.
 

Robot Samurai

R
If there is the possibility of each new system mentioned containing one of each of the different types of ruin site, then is it possible that this is true of all systems that contain a site? If so which is the smallest of all of the known systems that contain sites?
 

Iron Orchid

Iron Orchid
"Xeno-achaeology" - I wonder what's that is the science of?

Hmmm... Melville wasn't he the one who wrote about a obsessional hunt (for a white whale?)

It's worth a look if nothing else....
 
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