Allow Animals to kill other animals and fight

if going for a realistic game, please add these features in.

You have herds, please add Alpha's / Leaders.

Animals fight <--- either for territory or dominance, if you have a wolf pack for example, if the alpha gets old, its more likely that a younger wolf will challenge it to become an alpha.
or how male lions will usually fight one another, this will also give players the need to choose releasing the animals to the wild, or even possibly trading with ''other zoo's'' eg, a female lion for a male.
this will help reduce inbreeding with animals + will reduce risk of injury to your animals if they do fight.

Castration? i assume this will be a feature, but to fit it with my points, i think that if there are more males in an enclosure, if only 1 is non-castrated, they shouldn't fight, as they wont need to assert dominance for 'breeding rights' as a lot of animals do in the wild

Herbivore fights <--- its not just carnivores that fight for dominance, i think adding things like bucks / wilder-beast ect fighting by using their horns/ antlers should be a thing for them to assert breeding rights as they would in the wild, it will also make a cool feature for young horned herbivores, as a lot of the time, young males will spar with one another to practice. this is something ive always wanted to see in a zoo management game.

Carnivores can kill Herbivores <--- a lot of zoo games ive ever played, have had this feature, keep it realistic, one of my fave things to do, are to go in free play mode, make a HUGE enclosure, example, Savannah biome, all Savannah animals and watch the animals interact, lions stalking prey, prey running away, lions giving up on the chase, or actually catch them. this will also go sooo well with the herd feature that is in this game, how herd animals will stick together, add a feature to warn for predators maybe as they would in real life?

it would be such a waste to not put these features in the game, an nobody is forcing the people who DONT want it in the game, to use it, its just extremely unrealistic to think you can put lions in with gazelle an them not even think of touching them.

to anyone who says ''this is a zoo management game'' i have read so many suggestions on here, met with 'its a management game, that feature is not needed' eg, visitors being killed (i know this is confirmed to not be added)
but, not all zoo management is sunshine and rainbows, its not just about looking at your cute animals all day.
animals do fight in zoos, even if they are the young of existing zoo residents, you see it a lot with freshly introduced animals, or weaker animals who where previously sick, they get picked on, this is just the way of animals, chimps seem to do it a lot as do lions and tigers.
and personally, if my animals are all going to have individual personality, a lots of needs and a genetic system, im expecting to have a few bad apples. i dont want every personality to be amazing, im hoping for some more aggressive traits too, such as a lion who craves a live kill.
 
This is exactly what the game needs, i love you idea's i really hope the dev team gets to read these idea's and hopefully put them in the game.
 
Alpha systems are already confirmed from frontier. Lions will fight for an alpha status and get the right to mate with all females. In the fights the animal can be also hurt and possibly die. Giraffes Zebras and other animals can make herds and its very well seen in the Demo aswell :) and its also thinkable , that smaller animals can killed by a pretator
 
Confirmed animals being injured by another OR death in new article! OOOHH!

How bad can things go? Things could get pretty hairy in Jurassic World Evolution – can we have full-scale animal breakouts and run-ins with guests in Planet Zoo? "Of course, Planet Zoo’s animals are thinking individuals with a need to roam and explore their surroundings. If their habitat is inappropriate or if they’re given a way out, they may choose to roam around the whole zoo. Your zoo visitors will run away, and carnivorous or aggressive animals may even hurt or kill other animals in the zoo. It’s important to maintain your animals’ habitats, and to have staff on hand who can care for animals. It’s another aspect of zoo management you need to worry about. "
 
You have herds, please add Alpha's / Leaders.

Animals fight <--- either for territory or dominance, if you have a wolf pack for example, if the alpha gets old, its more likely that a younger wolf will challenge it to become an alpha.
I just really gotta say that they whole alpha/dominance theory (in wolves in particular) is completely wrong and was denounced by the very researcher who came up with it decades ago.
Wolf packs don't have "alphas", they're families with a leading parental couple and their offsprings.
I'm actually really worried the alpha wolf/dominance theory will be included in the game just because it's so popular and so many people (even professionals!) still believe it's true.
 
I just really gotta say that they whole alpha/dominance theory (in wolves in particular) is completely wrong and was denounced by the very researcher who came up with it decades ago.
Wolf packs don't have "alphas", they're families with a leading parental couple and their offsprings.
I'm actually really worried the alpha wolf/dominance theory will be included in the game just because it's so popular and so many people (even professionals!) still believe it's true.
You are right in general, but in a Zoo you often don't have the normal pack composition (parents + offspring). Instead you have probably a few grown up and unrelated wolfs - and they will fight for dominance and form some kind of hierarchy.
Even our domestic dogs or cats show this kind of behavior.
 
In my city zoo they introduce a male and two female, then they removed the not paired female; after a couple of years they had a real pack of wolfs with the dominant couple and some related (sons).
 
You are right in general, but in a Zoo you often don't have the normal pack composition (parents + offspring). Instead you have probably a few grown up and unrelated wolfs - and they will fight for dominance and form some kind of hierarchy.
Even our domestic dogs or cats show this kind of behavior.
True, the behavior is completely different when unrelated wolves are forced together (which is what the original "dominance" theory was based on).
But in case the wolf pack in your zoo should consist of a mated couple in their offsprings, this behavior should not exist.
And sadly I doubt the game will go as deep as to show different kinds of behavior mechanics in different kinds of packs.

As for domestic pets - really depends on what you're referring to. As a dog trainer, I deal with TONS of misinformation from dog owners who very wrongly apply the dominance/alpha theory to their dogs.
Cats are an even more complicated case as they aren't naturally social - they're still evolving into more social animals due to their domestication and they can still be pretty awkward with social behaviors.
But that doesn't have much to do with zoos, of course.
 
Yes, I would be surprised if the game would distinguish the behavior there. But who knows, we can still hope. ;)

Let's not get too much into offtopic, so just two things.

Cats are an even more complicated case as they aren't naturally social - they're still evolving into more social animals due to their domestication and they can still be pretty awkward with social behaviors.
Cats are naturally social.
Yes, they don't hunt together, but they are nevertheless very social. However they will show aggressiv behavior against intruders and Kittens who got isolated to early also tend o show aggressiv behavior do to the lack of socialization. A responsible breeder won't give you a kitten if you want to keep it alone.

If new animals - pets or not - meet each other, they often need some time to get to know each other. They will define, who is higher in the hyrarchie and if necessary they will fight. Some animals tend to just show off, others fight until one backs down. Depending on the social structure there might be only one male etc and therefore they might fight until dead, if there is no escape path for the weaker one.

In the wild nearly every social animal will live in family groups, where the individuals know each other since birth. Most common should be parents + offspring, mother + offspring or mother + doughters + their offspring or a male-group of brothers.
In every one of these natural groups you won't see much fighting, because the hyrarchie is already defined.
 
I agree with night cat. Cats are social and live in loose groups in the wild. The mistake most people make is assuming that our pets are related to the european wild cat. But actually, they are closer related to the african wildcat which does search contact to other cats. Not every soitary hunter is unsocial and unsocial behaviour in hose cats are often a result of taking kittens away from their family way to early. This should not be done before the age of 12 weeks at least.

It's sad that people still think cats don't need some of their kind. Most indoor cats suffer from not having someone to communicate in tehir own language with or share social behaviour with. Some breeds can even get very psychically damaged when kept solo. Oriental cats (including siamese) are a good example.
 
I agree with night cat. Cats are social and live in loose groups in the wild. The mistake most people make is assuming that our pets are related to the european wild cat. But actually, they are closer related to the african wildcat which does search contact to other cats. Not every soitary hunter is unsocial and unsocial behaviour in hose cats are often a result of taking kittens away from their family way to early. This should not be done before the age of 12 weeks at least.

It's sad that people still think cats don't need some of their kind. Most indoor cats suffer from not having someone to communicate in tehir own language with or share social behaviour with. Some breeds can even get very psychically damaged when kept solo. Oriental cats (including siamese) are a good example.
I have 2 wonderfull cats. They live together for 7 years now.
There is one thing I know for sure. They are not friends and can miss each other like toothache.

Haha, everyday there is a boxing fight in the central corridor in our home because one of them is blocking the passage.

If there is one thing cats can easily handle, is living solitary.
 
And you ignore biology and science because you have two cats that do not get along with each other? Believe me, as much as we love our own cats, they are not the centre of the universe. Just as two fighting dogs or two arguing human do not make the species solitary, your cats nit getting along with each other wouldn't change facts for a species either.

There are indeed individuals that tend to live alone. Just like with humans or even dogs. Still, the mayority is social. If two or more individuals get along with each other or would prefere other individuals depends on character, gender, reproduction level, room to share,socialisation....
 
Majority is not everyone. (y)

As humans can differ from each other, cats can as well. So it's not unthinkable that some cats rather be living alone, like one or both of my cats.

Some species only meet with other species during mating season. Loads of animals live alone.
 
Thats what I said. You said "If there is one thing cats can easily handle, is living solitary." This, is simply wrong and the assumption leads to cats devoloping unhealthy behaviour for a lot of individuals, including but not limited to very social breeds like oriental cats, ragdolls, birmans, burmese...

If you include a "MY cats can easily handle" it might be right. I don't know your cats, but I know individuals that don't want to live with other cats. Still, the mayority does, especially the mayority of indoor cats that do not have the chance to meet with cats on a stroll. And there are also many cats that need a social partner but still do not get along with everyone. As in humans and any other social species. Me not wanting to share my flat with everyone on the street doesn't make me less of a social being.
 
Either way, we've gone miles off-topic....

I do not agree with you on that subject, but I have no interest in explaining myself any further. (y)
 
Cats are very social, I have not had one cat that didn't have his/her social group - humans or cats.

Regarding the original post - YES, we need to have predator/pray killing (and vice versa if the predator is outmatched and likes to go after the big strong animal's baby). I'd LOVE to see an animal protecting it's young, that would be so cool (Like ZT2 predators would try to kill the baby hippo and the parents protected it). Oh and it goes without saying they shouldn't just kill for the fun of it (like jwe) but when hungry and then they should be able to eat the carcass.
 
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