An Open Letter to FD Regarding the Zapper Tool

[Deleted member 115407]

1. The zapper tool should knock people unconscious
2. We should be able to carry bodies
3. Numbers 1&2 provided, we should be able to enslave people and sell them to market provided we have available passenger space

Make it happen, FD.
MECGA

 

[MacIntoc]

1. The zapper tool should knock people unconscious

It's the case. I think you meant that a stun should not count as a kill ?

 

[FightingFirst]

There should be a takendown animation. The zapper tool is just a lazy port to avoid doing the work that takedowns would require imo.

 

[hunvagy]

CMDR Garret reporting in. Thief the Dark Wheel.. I mean Elite the Dark Project. I endorse this

 

[harag]

CMDR Garret reporting in. Thief the Dark Wheel.. I mean Elite the Dark Project. I endorse this

And his side kick #47

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

There should be a takendown animation. The zapper tool is just a lazy port to avoid doing the work that takedowns would require imo.

This.

Lazy design is rampant in this game. I wouldn't hold your breath, as much as I agree

 

[Erei]

It's the case. I think you meant that a stun should not count as a kill ?

I think that's what he meant.

 

[CMDR ZerØ]

1. The zapper tool should knock people unconscious
2. We should be able to carry bodies
3. Numbers 1&2 provided, we should be able to enslave people and sell them to market provided we have available passenger space

Make it happen, FD.
MECGA

Those slaves that made their way into SagA* must've come from somewhere...

 

[Fivebilliondead]

everyones always gotta have an open letter smh

 

[Jmanis]

1. The zapper tool should knock people unconscious
2. We should be able to carry bodies
3. Numbers 1&2 provided, we should be able to enslave people and sell them to market provided we have available passenger space

Make it happen, FD.
MECGA

#1 is already the case, it's just for some reason it's considered murder.

My proof is that, if you stun a target, they get a special icon in their status bar indicating they are stunned. I can't get a shot atm but just try it yourself, you'll see what i mean.

Secondly, i raised an alarm once, and managed to observe an enemy rousing one of their comrades. No evidence, but yeah, it's a thing.

However, stunning:
1. Counts as lethal action for the purposes of a nonlethal mission.
2. Counts as murder for the purposes of criminal consequence

1 shouldn't happen, 2 should just be assault. Maybe it shouldn't count to massacre missions (though, if you tase someone, you then can't kill them)

 

[CptXabaras]

1. The zapper tool should knock people unconscious
2. We should be able to carry bodies
3. Numbers 1&2 provided, we should be able to enslave people and sell them to market provided we have available passenger space

Make it happen, FD.
MECGA

Can i also have the dead bodies of my enemies hanging over the spikes of the raider ship kit? please?

 

[CommieMittens]

The zappy gun should act like the Siphon Filter taser.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

#1 is already the case, it's just for some reason it's considered murder.

My proof is that, if you stun a target, they get a special icon in their status bar indicating they are stunned. I can't get a shot atm but just try it yourself, you'll see what i mean.

Yeah, I noticed this too in Alpha and thought it was odd. It seems strange to me that they would consider it a kill, and I have wondered why it has been implemented as such. if I recall, even Frontier have said it's a "kill", even though that HUD element seems to belie that assertion.

Secondly, i raised an alarm once, and managed to observe an enemy rousing one of their comrades. No evidence, but yeah, it's a thing.

Interesting. I powered down a settlement the other day, and the NPCs powered it back on before complete shutdown.
At least some of this stuff was taken into account.

 

[Athlon-uk]

One of the Battlefield games had a defibrillator you could stealth kill with, great fun.

 

[Ydiss]

Non lethal is fine.

Dragging bodies just not necessary.

Most important, no legal penalty unless observed (including if you don't take out your target in one hit or they observe you kill/stun them).

 

[Jmanis]

Non lethal is fine.

Dragging bodies just not necessary.

Most important, no legal penalty unless observed (including if you don't take out your target in one hit or they observe you kill/stun them).

I actually tased a guy in the face right in the middle of a base with other guards roaming. Somehow nobody noticed.

 

[Ydiss]

I actually tased a guy in the face right in the middle of a base with other guards roaming. Somehow nobody noticed.

It's a quiet kill. If no one has Los, or they're out of range it'll not alert anyone. If someone is really close they'll hear it and investigate but won't go agro if they don't see you.

As soon as we have audio masking, it'll be possible to rampage around a base near silently killing without any detection except visual.

I can't wait

 

[Deleted member 115407]

Non lethal is fine.

Dragging bodies just not necessary.

Most important, no legal penalty unless observed (including if you don't take out your target in one hit or they observe you kill/stun them).

How am I supposed to round up slaves if I can't drag or carry them?

Fulton balloon?

 

[Ydiss]

How am I supposed to round up slaves if I can't drag or carry them?

Fulton balloon?

I think what you want is the persuadotron.

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[Vandal71]

The zapper should be a non lethal alternative to dealing with scientists. Why no "game designer" thought of this obvious mechanic is baffling.