An Open Letter to FD Regarding the Zapper Tool

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ULITE said:
Yes and yes, this would make some assassination missions much easier

No! I am not that evil. But stunning and carrying people to your own ship would make the Bounty hunter business more immersive.
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But I am that evil, and humanity must be enslaved!
 

tomimt

tomimt
Ther really should be an option for dragging corpses, especially for those stealth assassination missions. It could be handy to hide a body while you make your escape. There actually should be a way of luring an assassination target into some more secluded location as well.
 

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Jmanis said:
Can you tase people when their shields are down, and they are alerted?
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Yeah, shields down, always.
I've never tried it from the front though.

Shields up doesn't work so well.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
vindelanos said:
Yeah, shields down, always.
I've never tried it from the front though.

Shields up doesn't work so well.
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You can definitely do it from the front... it's my common tactic now when someone goes to security scan me. I switch to the energy link, wait for them to start scanning, switch modes and tase them before shields go up... but just thought it was an edge-case of not getting to the "alerted" state... but also discovered recently that if you're potentially going critical energy levels after a tase, it won't let you do it.

It's so satisfying.... "What are you doing? Put that aw-BZZZ- ARGH!"
 

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Jmanis said:
You can definitely do it from the front... it's my common tactic now when someone goes to security scan me. I switch to the energy link, wait for them to start scanning, switch modes and tase them before shields go up... but just thought it was an edge-case of not getting to the "alerted" state... but also discovered recently that if you're potentially going critical energy levels after a tase, it won't let you do it.

It's so satisfying.... "What are you doing? Put that aw-BZZZ- ARGH!"
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lol - I didn't know, but it makes sense.
I've been doing the same with my plasma pistol. Maybe the energy tool will be a little more subtle.
 

Dagwit

Dagwit
vindelanos said:
I disagree with this - there has to be some consequence for doing illegal stuff.
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IRL there are no consequences for doing illegal stuff if you don't get caught.

The only reason for this being different in-game is to discourage PvP griefing, and that doesn't apply here.

Edit: ninja'd! Must work on my PvP typing skills!
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Dagwit said:
IRL there are no consequences for doing illegal stuff if you don't get caught.

The only reason for this being different in-game is to discourage PvP griefing, and that doesn't apply here.

Edit: ninja'd! Must work on my PvP typing skills!
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Sure... but it's rare people get caught when doing the thing, rather they get caught in the investigation afterwards.

But frankly, a system where you got a bounty for crimes you committed a day after you did then would be pretty awful.
 

aRJay

aRJay
Jmanis said:
#1 is already the case, it's just for some reason it's considered murder.

My proof is that, if you stun a target, they get a special icon in their status bar indicating they are stunned. I can't get a shot atm but just try it yourself, you'll see what i mean.

Secondly, i raised an alarm once, and managed to observe an enemy rousing one of their comrades. No evidence, but yeah, it's a thing.

However, stunning:
1. Counts as lethal action for the purposes of a nonlethal mission.
2. Counts as murder for the purposes of criminal consequence

1 shouldn't happen, 2 should just be assault. Maybe it shouldn't count to massacre missions (though, if you tase someone, you then can't kill them)
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This is a time when parking offences are dealt with using lethal force. So the level of response to an assault seems in character.
 

Dagwit

Dagwit
Jmanis said:
Sure... but it's rare people get caught when doing the thing, rather they get caught in the investigation afterwards
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Quite often, though, they don't get caught at all. Two seconds on the Interwebs found this:

"Among the nation's largest cities, Chicago stands out for both its high murder rate and for the number of its murders that go unsolved. In recent years the police have been solving about 4 of every 10 murders in the city, but police data show the rate is even worse when the victim is African American.

The data, obtained by WBEZ under Illinois' open-records law, show the city had 849 murders between the beginning of 2018 and this past July. When the victim was white, 47% of the cases were solved during those same 19 months. For Hispanics, the rate was about 33%. When the victim was African American, it was less than 22%."

 
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