Anaconda destroyed in seconds by npc's

[Rob_the_Sparky]

I suggest the OP asks for input in the newcomers section as you will get helpful answers there (although to be fair there are some helpful ones here, they are just in amongst all the others).
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An out of the box Anaconda is not a good ship, you have to outfit it well otherwise you are flying an expensive target. If you were killed that fast by NPCs then most likely you had not outfitted it well. Try some details over in the newcomers section...

 

[psylim]

A ship is only capable as its pilot's skill and knowledge on how to outfit it for combat.


Case in point. A very good pilot with outfitting knowledge can take down an NPC Imperial Cutter in a Cobra

A stock Anaconda has light alloy armor which is paper thin for combat. Good armor for the Anaconda will cost you 130 to over 300 million credits without a discount. It's one of the biggest investments you can make in improving your ship for combat for any model. Based on your rebuy cost it doesn't seem like you have that kind of armor.


A Vulture engineered for heat efficiency and overpowered plant with plasma accelerators can destroy a stock Anaconda in seconds sitting in its blind spot.


Chaff is useless at optimal range for a ship with a big hitbox like the Anaconda, especially if the attacking ship is using fixed point weapons like plasma accelerators. Shield cell banks, not boosters, have to be timed right. Once your shields are down they are useless and if you let your shields get too low before popping one it's also useless. I also didn't see anything about heat sinks. Depending on your heat levels you can do more damage than harm with a poorly timed shield cell bank charge and no heat sinks.

A good unengineered build for combat with an Anaconda is going to increase the ship value enough to require a ~20 million rebuy
My recommendation is not to abandon your use of the Anaconda but use it for something more optimal that avoids combat like exploration. It is commonly considered to be the best ship for exploration because of its potential maximum jump range.

If you want to do combat get another smaller ship like the Vulture and use that until you have a better feel for combat in the game. Flying a ship like the Vulture for combat should give you an almost immediate appreciation of the issues that come with trying to learn combat in a less maneuverable large ship.

My Vulture eats Anacondas and Corvettes as a light snack. AMAZING combat ship.

 

[StiTch]

Hi folks new to the game just managed to buy an anaconda after nearly 2 weeks

There's your problem.

While it's possible to turn the big three into point-and-win ships, for your own sanity and in-game ability, park that anaconda in storage and go pilot something much smaller. Ship death and pilot ejection will be your teacher, but the cost will be a few thousand and not a few million every time, and each time you will learn just a bit more about evasion - and importantly, evasion while retaining DPS on the opponent.

What you're missing is skill, and you will not develop it in that brick.

If you want some in-game assistance, please add "CMDR STITCH!", and I can provide loadoad/flight support and some training assistance if I'm around.

 

[Tel Prydain]

Don't underestimate smaller ships. If you were more experienced you'd have known the Vulture is designed to kill stock large ships. It's agile, has good defenses for it's size and it's weapons are large... which means they're doing damage without the penalties that you'd see if a light-fighter was attacking you.

Also, a stock 'Conda is a cargo ship made of paper. Effort will be required if you want to turn it into a deadnaught. Start by A-rating all the things, getting A-rated shields, use shield boosters and shield cells. Most important, buy military grade armor.

 

[SkyB]

Welcome to the forum, and to Elite!

I will say that taking out one of the 'big three' for combat after only two weeks isn't going to go so well, especially nowadays with NPCs having engineered weapons and all. You've seen now that even large ships can be owned by the smaller ones, as the little ships have maneuverability on their side. I'm a little surprised that you died before even being able to launch a fighter or deploy weapons, though. What was your specific loadout?

I have done the exact same and mastered conda by now.

You need good shielding and armor and A rated internals. Use gimbaled weapons to make things easier, maybe add two fixed to the bottom huge and large mount to get a feel for aiming.

Lern how to maneuver in high security systems res sites with high intensity.

Cops will save you if you fk up.

Take some time.

Reverse bluezoning and FA off cheese may help you, too. The first is mandatory in big ships.

You don't need to fly medium ships to get good. Just do whatever you want.

Bte, vultures are joke targets. I got 6 efficient beam turrets and a huge and large long range PA.

A single hit mostly takes down the shield ans two more volleys send it to explosion.

Sometimes my two large top beam turrers can even kill it themselves.

Even in PvP your shield and armor + turrets make up for being less maneuverable. You may take damage but you will survive with some skill.

 

[cmdrzeeez]

For sure guys i've learnt a load more lol since i first posted this............. i sold the conda for a krait then sold that a few days later, i now fly an A rated almost fully engineered Alliance Challenger working on the guardian mods now, holy crap this thing means business nothing can touch it melts npc shields off in seconds now i understand how i myself was wiped out in 10 seconds in the conda lol.............

The only npc's that give me trouble now in the Challenger are Elite+ condas i just can't get their shields down fast enough to get those corrosive MC to work on their hull i end up having to run away......

still i've came so far in a few weeks,learned a lot and still having fun even tho the grind for mats can get a little frustrating at times.......funny enough i decided to buy a Type 10 last night even fully A rated it was struggling against even novice npc's taking minutes to kill as opposed to seconds in the engineered Challenger.............

hmmmmm not sure if i'm a big ship kinda guy just seem too slow and sluggish like boats i also find the workload higher in the big ships trying to manage systems,fire,sit awareness,assist on/off and turning woa turning by the time you've turned you need another turn lol.....gotta say much prefer the nimble ships the Alliance Challenger is wayyyy under rated from what i've read personally i think its one of the best ships in the game ......it's a flying tank man with great armour and can easily keep pace with much smaller ships in dogfights..............ALmost fully engineered i destroying elites with ease even the feared elite Fer der lances...........having said that i think i will fully engineer the type 10 just to see the difference

 

[Trueno33]

You´re missing the game man. This game is a personal journey and you´ve gone too fast. Two weeks playing and you already own a conda? I spent months learning my ropes flying cobra, viper, asp... Then, after many months I got a python. And after more than one year after starting playing I bought a conda. I was was probably rank dangerous by then, so I knew the galaxy.
Welcome to Elite DANGEROUS

 

[cmdrzeeez]

On the contrary man i think i learned a hard lesson early on which has served me well.....my flying skills were never in doubt it was more about learning the game mechanics and systems of which i'm still learning lol but i think the early wipeout and whoopin has made me realise the depth of the game and the old saying thers always someone better than you lol

 

[Trueno33]

On the contrary man i think i learned a hard lesson early on which has served me well.....my flying skills were never in doubt it was more about learning the game mechanics and systems of which i'm still learning lol but i think the early wipeout and whoopin has made me realise the depth of the game and the old saying thers always someone better than you lol

Hey, I´m glad to see that the experience has motivated you. This is a great game, enjoy it ;-)

Edit: and as you´ve seen the comunity is salty, but always willing to help and share their experience. I think is one of the best parts in ED. Any doubt you have about anything post it here and it will be solved in seconds.
Edit 2: consider using a cheaper ship until you learn about all the things that you need to survive. Btw, just the other night I lost a T9 (a huge cargo ship) while mining, also in seconds to some random npc. Another thing I love about this game, you never feel 100% safe: As you say, I learned my lesson and now I´ve reconsidered my mining build to improve things and prevent nasty surprises

 

[o2thaZ]

Welcome to elite cmdr.
The game wich is not a game but a full time job.
But keep at it the reward in the end is massive..eventhough there is no end.
Sorry to see you lose your anaconda. Now you have experienced elite for reals.
Goodluck in the future o7 cmdr o7

 

[Phil JMac]

OP - Awesome, glad you've found your ship of choice


One thing to note - Manufactured Mat at G5 are in a very funny place right now but it will sort itself out at some point - don't get to obsessed with trying to max G5 everything in one shot or you may find yourself frustrated. I've got builds perfectly capable of doing their job in PVE that still need a little finishing off.

 

[Schmack]

Hi folks new to the game just managed to buy an anaconda after nearly 2 weeks of damm hard grind......very first inderdiction i was looking forward to try her out in combat....nope my pride and joy was destroyed in seconds by an npc with a Vulture....are you kidding me man ?......... like no kidding max 10 seconds....didn't even have time to deploy my fighter let alone return fire ...................something very wrong here man how a huge ship like the conda can be wiped out in seconds by a runt like the Vulture........

Also the conda isn't even stock with upgraded shield generator,fsd,power dist and plant,fighter bay,shield boosters reinforced compartments,and a ton of weapons fat lot of good as i didn't even get time to deploy them.......

This is game breaking for me there is simply no point in grinding hundreds of hours for a top rated ship to be cut to pieces in seconds by a ship a 10th of the cost size and with nowhere near the firepower.......
Am i missing something guys ?

Yes. The Anaconda isn't the magical easy button. You have to know how to fly and shoot, and run. Since you were doing well before you got it, you should keep doing what you did to get it or fly with wingmen.

 

[RevCaoticFox]

Well... I met an Anaconda in Eravate, trying to force n00bs to smuggle stolen goods into Cleve Hub...
I respectfully WARN him that unless he wants to see a rebuy screen... he should seek life outside of Eravate.

He interdicts me (I'm flying a DiamondBack Scout... unshielded)…
I ask... u sure u wanna lose that?!?
He fires...

I go Dark... and Cold

he's running Gimbals...
I chaff, boost to his Yaw axis... they're turrets!!! lol...
Lateral Boost orbit of his PITCH axis... Oversized-OverCharged Cannons -FIRE!!!

HEATSINK DEPLOYED


96% Hull...

Conda shields down... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


Conda 45% Hull... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


"I warned you" in chat box...


[Target Destroyed]

 

[Bigmaec]

Well... I met an Anaconda in Eravate, trying to force n00bs to smuggle stolen goods into Cleve Hub...
I respectfully WARN him that unless he wants to see a rebuy screen... he should seek life outside of Eravate.

He interdicts me (I'm flying a DiamondBack Scout... unshielded)…
I ask... u sure u wanna lose that?!?
He fires...

I go Dark... and Cold

he's running Gimbals...
I chaff, boost to his Yaw axis... they're turrets!!! lol...
Lateral Boost orbit of his PITCH axis... Oversized-OverCharged Cannons -FIRE!!!

HEATSINK DEPLOYED


96% Hull...

Conda shields down... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


Conda 45% Hull... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


"I warned you" in chat box...


[Target Destroyed]

Right on CMDR

 

[Grumpy181155]

The Anaconda is a multi-role ship and can put out substantially higher DPS with far more agility than a Cutter when it's fit for combat. The only thing it can't match is the Cutter's tank, but you can still get over 5k ehp armour.

The other advantage the Cutter has is speed. If the fight is not going your way in a Cutter you can boost and open the distance and reassess. That is just not an option in an Anaconda

 

[Screemonster]

The other advantage the Cutter has is speed. If the fight is not going your way in a Cutter you can boost and open the distance and reassess. That is just not an option in an Anaconda

Yeah. And while it does have a very high theoretical DPS, higher than the corvette even, your DPS is zero when you can't hit your target. There's a reason PvPers fly mediums and the occasional small and it's not just that the rebuy (which they see a lot of) is more affordable.

 

[Tifu]

 

[Backelaer]

 

[Tifu]

HEATSINK DEPLOYED


96% Hull...

Conda shields down... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


Conda 45% Hull... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


"I warned you" in chat box...


[Target Destroyed]

And that's the way it's done

 

[cmdrzeeez]

Well... I met an Anaconda in Eravate, trying to force n00bs to smuggle stolen goods into Cleve Hub...
I respectfully WARN him that unless he wants to see a rebuy screen... he should seek life outside of Eravate.

He interdicts me (I'm flying a DiamondBack Scout... unshielded)…
I ask... u sure u wanna lose that?!?
He fires...

I go Dark... and Cold

he's running Gimbals...
I chaff, boost to his Yaw axis... they're turrets!!! lol...
Lateral Boost orbit of his PITCH axis... Oversized-OverCharged Cannons -FIRE!!!

HEATSINK DEPLOYED


96% Hull...

Conda shields down... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


Conda 45% Hull... DBS... 96% Hull


Frameshift Charge detected... [Yuri]


"I warned you" in chat box...


[Target Destroyed]

Haha Awesome........... boy have i learned a lot since the first post,i can see the stupidity of being new and buying a huge ship lol after nearly aother fiasco trying out a type 10 not sure if i really want a huge ship now................