Anaconda destroyed in seconds by npc's

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Hi folks new to the game just managed to buy an anaconda after nearly 2 weeks of damm hard grind......very first inderdiction i was looking forward to try her out in combat....nope my pride and joy was destroyed in seconds by an npc with a Vulture....are you kidding me man ?......... like no kidding max 10 seconds....didn't even have time to deploy my fighter let alone return fire ...................something very wrong here man how a huge ship like the conda can be wiped out in seconds by a runt like the Vulture........

Also the conda isn't even stock with upgraded shield generator,fsd,power dist and plant,fighter bay,shield boosters reinforced compartments,and a ton of weapons fat lot of good as i didn't even get time to deploy them.......

This is game breaking for me there is simply no point in grinding hundreds of hours for a top rated ship to be cut to pieces in seconds by a ship a 10th of the cost size and with nowhere near the firepower.......
Am i missing something guys ?

How do you know it was an NPC? Flying in solo mode? A 2 week noob might not know the difference in Open. Just saying.
 
Thx for the replies guys i understand i'm only playing 2 weeks but its been a hard 2 weeks lol still man its just insane to be wiped out so fast by such a small ship,if the conda isnt a fighting ship or at least capable of fighting then whats the point of grinding for bigger ships with their massive weapons and mounts.........the cobra i had before was wiped out super fast too,not quite this fast tho at least i had time to deploy and fight but i put that down to it being a mid range ship more for trading and exp...but the conda ???? whats the point of all that armour an IMPROVED shield generator and hull reinforcement if your gonna get shot to pieces in seconds......i get the engineering and all that but no small ship should be able to that much damage to a behmoth like the conda so fast......another conda or another big ship yea ok...............i pumped all power into the shields and tried to pop off chaff and shield boosters then boooooom hull breach......14 mill gone............its a great game but this has left me really unhappy had a blast this last 2 weeks only for this to ruin my day lol....



If your rebuy was only 14 million, it wasn't a very strong build.
My FGS is around 9 and my Vette is in the 40s as I recall.
 
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Also, pip management. Four pips to shields increases their damage resistance considerably. Managing your pip power settings is important in combat.
 
Hi folks new to the game just managed to buy an anaconda after nearly 2 weeks of damm hard grind......very first inderdiction i was looking forward to try her out in combat....nope my pride and joy was destroyed in seconds by an npc with a Vulture....are you kidding me man ?......... like no kidding max 10 seconds....didn't even have time to deploy my fighter let alone return fire ...................something very wrong here man how a huge ship like the conda can be wiped out in seconds by a runt like the Vulture........

Also the conda isn't even stock with upgraded shield generator,fsd,power dist and plant,fighter bay,shield boosters reinforced compartments,and a ton of weapons fat lot of good as i didn't even get time to deploy them.......

This is game breaking for me there is simply no point in grinding hundreds of hours for a top rated ship to be cut to pieces in seconds by a ship a 10th of the cost size and with nowhere near the firepower.......
Am i missing something guys ?

My Vultures can fry any opponent they come across they are one of the best combat ships in the game.

2 weeks of flight time (credit grinding) is not helping you know how to fight. Honestly buy and eagle and learn how to fight by bounty hunting.

All ships have their strengths but you bring out none of them when you can't fly to save yourself. ED isnt a game were high amounts of credits mean you can do anything and the larger ships don't compensate for user error if anything with the high rebuy they compound it.
 
10 seconds for a Vulture to cream a Conda? Unless you had ATR after you I just cannot see that happening. The Vulture can be a deadly ship, but not that deadly, even with it's two large hardpoints.
My advice, as you are fairly new to combat. Ditch the Conda and buy a Chieftain. Turns on a dime, and has 2 large 1 medium and 3 small hardpoints. Even with fast charge thermal resist bi-weave shields and two resistance shield boosters
you can get 998Mj of shields with insane resistances to all three types of damage.

For weapons one small multi cannon with high capacity ammo and corrosive effect. Two small burst lasers G5 efficient/over-sized. Medium slot Efficient beam G5/thermal vent.
large weapons, burst laser G5 efficient/oversized. Overcharged multi cannon/auto loader.

With G5 dirty drives it's fast enough to fight with 4 pips to shields and 2 to weapons. That gives you about one minute of constant fire before you run out of weps charge. 3 pips to shields and 3 to weps = fire forever.
The Conda is a great all rounder but just like the Vette and the Cutter it's a lumbering brick in the wrong hands.
 
So many alarm bells.

Two weeks?
No build info?
No explanation of the circumstances (armor, shield, pips weapons used etc)?

I seem to recall, a while ago, there was a similar thread where it turned out a newbie had engineered the poop out of all the E-rated modules fitted to their shiny new Anaconda 'cos they didn't realise they could change them.

To give the OP the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they're a seasoned player who just committed 2 weeks effort specifically to getting themselves an Annie and, in that case, maybe all the "newbie knows nothing" rhetoric is unwarranted.

If, OTOH, this is somebody who's only been playing for two weeks then I'm afraid this is the result of what happens when the intended progression of the game goes all to hell and you end up with vast chunks of the game's lessons that go unlearned.
 
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Hi folks new to the game just managed to buy an anaconda after nearly 2 weeks of damm hard grind......very first inderdiction i was looking forward to try her out in combat....nope my pride and joy was destroyed in seconds by an npc with a Vulture....are you kidding me man ?......... like no kidding max 10 seconds....didn't even have time to deploy my fighter let alone return fire ...................something very wrong here man how a huge ship like the conda can be wiped out in seconds by a runt like the Vulture........

Also the conda isn't even stock with upgraded shield generator,fsd,power dist and plant,fighter bay,shield boosters reinforced compartments,and a ton of weapons fat lot of good as i didn't even get time to deploy them.......

This is game breaking for me there is simply no point in grinding hundreds of hours for a top rated ship to be cut to pieces in seconds by a ship a 10th of the cost size and with nowhere near the firepower.......
Am i missing something guys ?

You need to engineer your shields OP, once you have done that, the Anaconda can more than hold her own in a fight against npc . I can see off any npc Vulture in mine.:D
 
Thx for the replies guys indeed I'm a noob to this game for sure but not to flying been mill simming for decades so have pretty good stick and rudder skills and reactions, and i've learnt quite a lot in 2 weeks 12 hours a day solid lol,but this wasn't about experience or skill or game knowledge or even butt hurt at losing my ship thankfully had enoug creds to rebuy, were kinda missing the point here guys no small 4 million cr ship A rated or not should be able to destroy a 146 million credit crusier in seconds its absurd......the conda is supposed to have massive hull armour and decent shields even stock which mine isn't, no amount of skilled piloting is gonna make a difference or be able to react in 10 seconds ,fs it takes that long to turn the damm beast let alone deploy weapons,the fighter,boost shields,etc......something not quite right here man i've watched videos on youtube of the conda taking a hell of a beating and still in fighting form help me out guys i'm terrified to take the conda out now fs lol looks like its back to my cobra and robigo pax missions till i figure this out...

My spec is as follows
BULKHEADS-1C LIGHTWEIGHT ALLOY
FSD-6A
SHIELD-6B
PWR DIST-8C
PWR PLANT-8C
LIFE SUPPORT-5D
THRUSTERS-7A
SENSORS-5D
LIFESUP-5D
MILCOM-HULL REINFORCEMENT

OP INTERNALS

CARGO
CARGO
6B SHIELD GEN
FIGHTER BAY PLUS 2 FIGHTERS
COMPART REINFORCEMENT
SHIELD BOOSTERS

HARDPOINTS
2+HEASTSINK
2 +POINT DEFENCE
THE REST OA SHIELD BOOSTERS
 
So many alarm bells.

Two weeks?
No build info?
No explanation of the circumstances (armor, shield, pips weapons used etc)?

I seem to recall, a while ago, there was a similar thread where it turned out a newbie had engineered the poop out of all the E-rated modules fitted to their shiny new Anaconda 'cos they didn't realise they could change them.

To give the OP the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they're a seasoned player who just committed 2 weeks effort specifically to getting themselves an Annie and, in that case, maybe all the "newbie knows nothing" rhetoric is unwarranted.

If, OTOH, this is somebody who's only been playing for two weeks then I'm afraid this is the result of what happens when the intended progression of the game goes all to hell and you end up with vast chunks of the game's lessons that go unlearned.

the "new to the game" part of the post should rule out any possibility of any seasoning.

Maybe FD should just make the anaconda the starting ship? Save a lot of people a lot of grinding, and maybe they'll try to learn to fly instead.

Z...
 
ach.. Back in them olden days it took me a full year to make money for and trust in my own skills to buy an A-grade Python. Before that I ruined everything in my Vulture, amazing little thing.

Like others have said, bigger ain't always better. Much comes down to skills and experience. And it also has to be said, npc's in this game aren't in any way hard opponents if you somewhat know what you're doing.
 
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My Vultures can fry any opponent they come across they are one of the best combat ships in the game.

2 weeks of flight time (credit grinding) is not helping you know how to fight. Honestly buy and eagle and learn how to fight by bounty hunting.

All ships have their strengths but you bring out none of them when you can't fly to save yourself. ED isnt a game were high amounts of credits mean you can do anything and the larger ships don't compensate for user error if anything with the high rebuy they compound it.

Vulture is still one of my favourite combat vessels even after years in this game and a fairly decent fleet roster. The first dedicated combat ship I ever owned and it still sees regular service. It's just enjoyable to fly; a lean, mean, murder machine.

I second your statement to buy an Eagle and throw it into combat. The cost of that Annie could have bought OP nigh-endless Eagle rebuys, but the experience of combat flight itself is priceless. You can't buy experience and practice.
 
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sure i'll just stick to a sidewinder flying cargo.....

Don't be a twit. LEARN what you're doing in the game before rushing into such big commitments. I'll tell you a secret: almost no one that PVP's does so in the big ships. They use smalls or mediums. The Chieftan, Krait, Fer-de-Lance, Python, Vulture, Cobra Mk.III, Viper Mk.III, Diamondback Scout, Imperial Courier, and Federal Gunship, are some of the best ships in the game, if not a list of THE best ships in the game, for combat. And they are all a damn sight cheaper to build and lose than an Anaconda. If you're going to fly a big ship like a 'Conda, you're best to do it with friends in a group who can provide support. The US Navy doesn't deploy aircraft carriers on their own, they send them out in a battlegroup with a bunch of smaller ships providing escort.
 
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.....if the conda isnt a fighting ship or at least capable of fighting then whats the point of grinding for bigger ships with their massive weapons and mounts....
A ship is only capable as its pilot's skill and knowledge on how to outfit it for combat.

.....the cobra i had before was wiped out super fast too,not quite this fast tho at least i had time to deploy and fight but i put that down to it being a mid range ship more for trading and exp...
Case in point. A very good pilot with outfitting knowledge can take down an NPC Imperial Cutter in a Cobra

whats the point of all that armour an IMPROVED shield generator and hull reinforcement if your gonna get shot to pieces in seconds......
A stock Anaconda has light alloy armor which is paper thin for combat. Good armor for the Anaconda will cost you 130 to over 300 million credits without a discount. It's one of the biggest investments you can make in improving your ship for combat for any model. Based on your rebuy cost it doesn't seem like you have that kind of armor.

i get the engineering and all that but no small ship should be able to that much damage to a behmoth like the conda so fast...
A Vulture engineered for heat efficiency and overpowered plant with plasma accelerators can destroy a stock Anaconda in seconds sitting in its blind spot.

...another conda or another big ship yea ok...............i pumped all power into the shields and tried to pop off chaff and shield boosters then boooooom hull breach...
Chaff is useless at optimal range for a ship with a big hitbox like the Anaconda, especially if the attacking ship is using fixed point weapons like plasma accelerators. Shield cell banks, not boosters, have to be timed right. Once your shields are down they are useless and if you let your shields get too low before popping one it's also useless. I also didn't see anything about heat sinks. Depending on your heat levels you can do more damage than harm with a poorly timed shield cell bank charge and no heat sinks.

...14 mill gone........
A good unengineered build for combat with an Anaconda is going to increase the ship value enough to require a ~20 million rebuy
My recommendation is not to abandon your use of the Anaconda but use it for something more optimal that avoids combat like exploration. It is commonly considered to be the best ship for exploration because of its potential maximum jump range.

If you want to do combat get another smaller ship like the Vulture and use that until you have a better feel for combat in the game. Flying a ship like the Vulture for combat should give you an almost immediate appreciation of the issues that come with trying to learn combat in a less maneuverable large ship.
 
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If you had posted in newcomers instead of dd, the replies might have been less intolerant, but the advice would be the same. Build, situation, actions?

10 second kill doesn't happen without you making some serious mistake somewhere, and by time you own a conda, while it's not unreasonable for you to make that mistake, you should be experienced enough to know what that mistake was.
 
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