Analyzing required animals by Taxonomical group

Discussion #7: Antelopes*, Viverroids**, Turtles, crocodilians
Antelopes - For me, no more African antelopes are even wanted much less needed. We have soooo many already. We do need an Asian Antelope though, if not two. I know it's very rare in zoos, if at all right now, but the Saiga Antelope is very unique looking and would give us a West Asian animal, which we're pretty low on. I think the Blackbuck would make a good second choice.

Viverroids - I'd like to see a second of the family, I'd probably go with the African Civet, but I can't say it's necessary, either.

Turtle - I'd love to see some tortoises but I'm not sure we're including them in with the turtles. Either way would be welcome, but not necessary. Maybe second-tier necessary to get an exhibit one.

Crocodilians - Nothing necessary but if we did get another I'd prefer the Nile Crocodile.

Some interesting wants but only an Asian Antelope is needed, if not two. Of course, I realize that my opinion in one of the groups will be wildly different than most opinion and that's fine.
 
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Antelopes

We already have a lot but I think there is always place for more:

Addax - the only one I consider essential right now, iconic desert animal, endangered, beautiful, common in zoo’s would be great as an anniversary animal or simple reskin for desert pack.
Blackbuck - for Asian representation and dimorphism
Giant Eland - the most beautiful one for me also the biggest one
Gerenuk - game could benefit from new behavior for antelopes like feeding on back legs lack, also representation from the horn Africa would make consider it essential.
Any species of hartebeest - with a preference for Blesbok because it’s beautiful
Any small antelope - like Dik dik would be great.
Saiga for Asian representation and uniqueness
Greather kudu - majestic and great for mixed exibits
Nilgai - unique Indian representation
mhorr gazelle - beautiful and endangared

Viverroids

Fossa
- essential for it’s uniqueness
African civet - essential for me as the new type of ground viverroid that we don’t have right now, also beautiful and large

Turtles

African spurred tortoise
- would be nice to have but not essential
One species of large aquatic species as Arrau river turtle would be nice because they are quite active and could be used for mixed exibits with capybara.

Crocodilians

It would be nice to have any African species preferably West African slender snouted croc, also Chinese alligators because of they conservation status would be great and tomistoma is worth mentioning because of it’s size and looks. My personal favorite would be Cuban croc because they can gallop and that would bring new animation.
 
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Discussion #7: Antelopes*, Viverroids**, Turtles, crocodilians

What we have:

Antelopes:
  1. Black wildebeest
  2. Bongo
  3. Gemsbok
  4. Nyala
  5. Sable antelope
  6. Springbok
  7. Thomson's gazelle
  8. NIle lechwe
  9. Scimitar horned oryx
  10. Blue Wildebeest

Viverroids (Malgasy carnivores, genets, civets...)
  • Binturong

Turtles
  • Aldabra giant tortoise
  • Diamondback terrapin
  • Galapagos giant tortoise
CrocodiliansDespite the fact that I like V
  • Americsn Alligator
  • Cuvier's dwarf caiman
  • Gharial
  • Saltwater crocodile
  • Spectacled caiman
Antelopes are tough to choose for because there are too many of them, particularly from African aridlands and grasslands. Despite that due to the diversity of antelopes, it feels like we don't have enough of them. I would like to have kudus (greater in particular) and sitatungas, but we already have two members of the genus Tragelaphus. I'd welcome Arabian oryx, addax, and roan antelope but we already have three Hippotraginids (is that how you say it?.) Elands and impala would alsobe great but as I said the African arid and grasslands is already well represented. Therefore the highlighted antelope so far are not too essential.

If we are going to have antelope, we need either species from Asia such as the blackbuck and nilgai or small African antelope such as the Kirk's dikdik, red forest duiker, and the yellow-backed duiker (which I'll admit are not as small as the other two.) I am sure small or saian species can spice up the antelope diversity we have.

Despite the fact that I like Viverroids, I cannot say that they are the most essential animal taxa. I am not too gung-ho about the Fossa but it would still be ridiculous to not have it at this point or by the time Frontier finishes support. Otherwise, despite my beliefs, Viverroides may as well be complete with these two species. Species I want such as ring-tail vontsira, fanaloka, narrow-striped boky, African civet, small-spotted genet, and Asian palm civet are not as necessary, and may a well be considered as wild cards.

Tortoises are easy. We need small habitat species such as red-footed tortoise and radiated tortoise. We also need the Sulcata tortoise, otherwise not including this commonly kept species would be nuts. I would like the ploughshare tortoise but that would be a strech. Since Europeans always want a representative of Europe at any possible moment then I may as well throw in the Herman's tortoise and/or Greek tortoise. Turtles on the other hand are hard are a tough one since there are many species of them maybe two more small species as exhibit aimals and one large species such as a common or alligator snapper which could work as a habitat animal.

I'll get straight to the point with crocodiles. We just need an African species and then we are good. Species that would work would be the dwarf crocodile, slender-snouted crocodile, and the Nile crocodile.
 
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Discussion #7: Antelopes*, Viverroids**, Turtles, crocodilians

What we have:

Antelopes:
  1. Black wildebeest
  2. Bongo
  3. Gemsbok
  4. Nyala
  5. Sable antelope
  6. Springbok
  7. Thomson's gazelle
  8. NIle lechwe
  9. Scimitar horned oryx
  10. Blue Wildebeest

Viverroids (Malgasy carnivores, genets, civets...)
  • Binturong

Turtles
  • Aldabra giant tortoise
  • Diamondback terrapin
  • Galapagos giant tortoise
Crocodilians
  • Americsn Alligator
  • Cuvier's dwarf caiman
  • Gharial
  • Saltwater crocodile
  • Spectacled caiman

Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.

*Bovines and caprines not inckuded as they will get their own discussion
**Viverroids include hyenas and mongooses as well, but they already got their own discussions
Antelopes:

Ok this is a big one for me, I really like antelopes and even though we already have 10 species there is a tonne of variety and I think more deserve to be considered. There is a lot of species I want to mention so I'm going to go in a very random order. Firstly, nilgai are very large antelope native to India which are incredibly visually distinct and would make a very fine addition to South Asian areas, common eland are very large and unique looking from other African antelopes as well as being very common in mixed savannah exhibits, greater kudu is also very common in mixed savannahs and despite not being the most unique looking of antelopes their sheer presence would mean a lot in my opinion, blesbok are another common African antelope that are very unique looking with their dark brown and white colouration, addax are a staple from ZT2 and would give us another antelope from the Sahara that is also visually distinct from anything else we have currently, impala are the archetypal savannah antelope and are genetically quite distinct from any other species which would make them an interesting addition, mhorr gazelle are a smaller desert antelope which would work great with addax and scimitar oryx, blackbuck are the face of Indian antelope and would be amazing to see in mixed exhibits with rhinos, water buffalo, and even elephants.... Ok, still more to mention 😅, a smaller more typical looking dry climate antelope would be great to see (Cuvier's, Persian, Dorcas...), and finally the tiny Kirk's dik-dik would give us that tiny bit more of size variety. That was a LOT but I genuinely think all of these would add a great deal to the game.

Viverroids:

Not a group I have honestly thought much about at all... Starting with the euplerids (Malagasy carnivores) we absolutely need the fossa, the largest predator in Madagascar that infamously hunts lemurs and considering we ONLY have lemurs to represent the island currently this seems like the next natural choice.

Onto the viverrids themselves, there is three species I can think of that would be good additions: the African civet, common genet, and Asian palm civet. All of these look quite different from each other as well as the viverrid we already have, that being the binturong. These are all relatively popular in smaller zoos and seeing a true civet/genet in the game would be quite nice.

Turtles:

We could really do with more turtles, especially smaller species. I'm just going to make a bullet-point list of a bunch that would be good:
  • A sea turtle (green, hawksbill, loggerhead... any of those)
  • A snapping turtle (I don't really mind if its the alligator or common)
  • Any smaller freshwater turtle as an exhibit animal (any of the pond slider subspecies, river cooter, European pond turtle, false map turtle, Florida redbelly turtle, painted turtle, Annam leaf turtle, ... this list could go on forever I could have mentioned at least 20 species here)
  • African spurred tortoise (Was in ZT2 and would give us a large tortoise that isn't an island endemic)
  • A smaller tortoise species (Hermann's tortoise, Egyptian tortoise, elongated tortoise, Greek tortoise, Russian tortoise, Indian star tortoise, leopard tortoise, marginated tortoise, pancake tortoise, radiated tortoise... this list could also go on forever...)
This isn't even mentioning snake-necks, pig-nosed turtle, softshells... I could go on literally forever because there is such a great variety in turtles and its a great shame we don't have more.

Crocodilians:

More crocodilians are something a lot of the community are opposed to but honestly I've grown to like quite a few of the suggestions: Dwarf crocodile gives us another very small crocodilian that would also be from Africa since we currently have none from that continent. The Nile crocodile must be mentioned, it has a history from zoo games... is very large and very common and could also fill in the slot for African crocodilian, though some may say its too similar to the saltie we already have. Also there is the unique-looking tomistoma which would give us the other member of the gharial family while also still giving us a very distinct looking crocodilian.
 
Discussion #7: Antelopes*, Viverroids**, Turtles, crocodilians

Antelopes:
I need two of them, the addax and the blackbuck. They are iconic and very unique visually. We don't have an Indian antelope and the addax is endangered if I'm not mistaken. These two are essential to me.

After those, I wouldn't mind getting an impala or a bontebok/blesbok (I never know how to differentiate this two lol), but they are not essential.

Viverroids: I didn't know what this is, but it seems civets and fossas belong here. The only one which is really needed is the fossa. We need a Madagascar predator to control our three lemurs.

Turtles/tortoises: I don't even know where to start. We need many more!
First we need a big-but-not-giant tortoise. African spurred tortoise is my favourite, but a leopard tortoise could work too.

Then we also need lots of small turtles/tortoises (probably as exhibit animals). The Greek tortoise is my favourite, and it covers three continents. After that, I'd like to get a European pond turtle, mata-mata, Mojave desert tortoise and many more.

Last but not least, about crocodilians, I think an African crocodile is needed. My favourite is the Nile crocodile because for me it's the most iconic crocodile (more than the salty). If we got the short snout one I wouldn't complain tough.
 
Antelopes... I need several more species for this group to feel complete, and I'm focused here on distinctive appearances. Would like the small, elusive blue or red duiker, the athletic rock-climbing klipspringer, the whistling little kirk's dik dik, giraffe-necked southern gerenuk, camel-faced western saiga, and the strikingly-colored blackbuck to represent Asia. Yes, I want all six! Nice but not necessary: addax for desert use, the stately eland, or sitatunga.

Viverrids... My friends in South Africa have a tree feeder and webcam in their backyard that picks up genets every night. They're so distinctive looking, like a spotted cat/fox cross, and so agile in the trees. I think a genet qualifies as necessary in PZ, along with the unique fossa. An African civet or Asian palm civet would be nice but not necessary.

Turtles & tortoises... Fine with what we have, but open to more.

Crocodilians... Personally satisfied with what we have. There is an African gap that could be filled by the slender-snouted croc. The Nile just looks like another Saltie to my (untrained) eye.
 
Did someone say antelopes? 😃 Oh boy, this is gonna be a long one.

First of all, I love antelopes so much that I will never really be opposed to any inclusion. But there are 3 that are still essential in my eyes. If we could get these 3, I would be over the moon and satisfied with our antelope roster 🙏 And these are:

1) NILGAI. I would say this is the most essential because we absolutely need an Asian antelope. Nilgai is from Asia, unique looking, majestic, have sexual dimorphism and could be mixed with rhinos and other asian animals. I know most of these characteristics also apply to the blackbuck - and I admit the blackbuck would also be a good choice. But I prefer the nilgai so much that I would be disappointed if we got the blackbuck instead. This is very personal of course. I just find the nilgai so much more unique looking. Blackbucks are beautiful but they look like your standard antelope. Nilgai is a majestic beast looking almost like a cow. No other antelope look like them. And the greyish color of the male is just so beautiful. I don't know, I just love them so much, I can't help it. Sorry.

2) ADDAX. One of the most beautiful antelopes on this earth, critically endangered and would give us one more true desert animal, which we don't have a lot of. So essential to me but I think it would also be a great addition to the game.

3) GIANT ELAND. Not essential to the game tbh but essential to me. Biggest antelope in Africa and too beautiful to be left out.

Other than those 3, any additional one would be a nice bonus, especially a small antelope like the red duiker.

Viverroids: We need the fossa to complete our Madagascar roster with something else than lemurs. Also very cool and unique animal. Other than that, nothing essential, but a civet species (African or Indian) would be cool.

Turtles/Tortoises: First of all, I would really like Frontier to fix the size of the Aldabra and Galapagos tortoises. They are way too small and it really annoys me. I think this doesn't get mentioned enough. Then, yeah, I think getting one more tortoise species would be great. I'm not an expert in tortoise species but I like the radiated tortoise and it could be cool to mix them with lemurs as they do in some real life zoos. Getting at least one more exhibit turtle would be nice too.

Crocodilians: I think we have enough crocodilians. But if we should get one more, I would prefer the tomistoma or the cuban croc.
 
Discussion #7: Antelopes*, Viverroids**, Turtles, crocodilians

What we have:

Antelopes:
  1. Black wildebeest
  2. Bongo
  3. Gemsbok
  4. Nyala
  5. Sable antelope
  6. Springbok
  7. Thomson's gazelle
  8. NIle lechwe
  9. Scimitar horned oryx
  10. Blue Wildebeest
Viverroids (Malgasy carnivores, genets, civets...)
  • Binturong
Turtles
  • Aldabra giant tortoise
  • Diamondback terrapin
  • Galapagos giant tortoise
Crocodilians
  • Americsn Alligator
  • Cuvier's dwarf caiman
  • Gharial
  • Saltwater crocodile
  • Spectacled caiman
Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.

*Bovines and caprines not inckuded as they will get their own discussion
**Viverroids include hyenas and mongooses as well, but they already got their own discussions
These are my choices for these four groups, with reasoning:

Antelopes
Top of my antelope agenda is the common eland - one of the most widespread and commonly-kept antelope in captivity and often one of the founding species in a mixed savannah enclosure. I would be hugely disappointed if the giant eland, which has now all but vanished from zoos, came in its place.

The blackbuck is probably the best option for an Asian antelope, and would add a lot to Asian grassland paddocks when kept alongside Indian rhinos, buffalo and peacocks.

I would also like a duiker to mix with the okapis - my local zoo has blue duiker, which are very charming little animals, but I also wouldn't mind seeing either a Natal red duiker, a yellow-backed duiker or a bay duiker. The Kirk's dik-dik would be an excellent addition as a smaller savannah antelope, and are becoming increasingly common in zoos in Europe.

With those four, I would say that I am pretty much set with antelope.

Viverroids
The Owston's civet is an interesting prospect - it is one of my most-wanted animals in the game but the fact it is only kept in four zoos outside its native range suggests it is not a required species by any means. But then, they are a highly endangered species whose survival is dependent on captive-breeding and would benefit from the increased awareness that could come from its inclusion in the game.

I would say that the fossa is also pretty necessary. While most zoos have lemurs in standalone spaces, those exhibit areas that focus on Madagascar also frequently keep fossa as another example of a Madagascan animal.

Beyond that, there are many 'nice-to-haves' that are probably not necessary for the game to feel it is complete to the bare minimum - a species genet, one of the terrestrial civets and smaller Madagascan carnivores like the fanaloka, ring-tailed vontsira and bokiboky would all be lovely. I also have a real appreciation for the banded linsang and nandinia, as representatives of two tiny groups within the carnivora.

Turtles
By far the most necessary of the chelonians for me is the African spurred tortoise - a commonly kept yet endangered species, the largest mainland tortoise, a representative of desert and grassland habitats and able to be mixed with a variety of other savannah animals all make this a very versatile animal.

My second most-wanted turtle is one of the Southeast Asian freshwater turtles, with the giant Asian pond turtle being my favoured option. They are large, critically endangered, tolerant of a temperate climate and quite regularly kept in large outdoor enclosures. I think a representative of the Southeast Asian freshwater turtles is very important to raise awareness of the conservation threats the group as a whole is facing.

There are also plenty of exhibit chelonians that would be interesting - things like a matamata, a Southeast Asian box turtle or a smaller tortoise such as an African pancake tortoise would all be lovely additions to the game.

Crocodilians
I do think an African crocodile is necessary, with my top choice being the Western slender-snouted crocodile. They are pretty unique in appearance as crocodiles go, critically endangered and would add a lot to the game, being a species of both rainforest and savannah rivers, the first African crocodilian and only the second species of true crocodile in the game. My local zoo also has one, so there is an element of familiarity behind my choices.
 
Discussion #7: Antelopes*, Viverroids**, Turtles, crocodilians

What we have:

Antelopes:
  1. Black wildebeest
  2. Bongo
  3. Gemsbok
  4. Nyala
  5. Sable antelope
  6. Springbok
  7. Thomson's gazelle
  8. NIle lechwe
  9. Scimitar horned oryx
  10. Blue Wildebeest

Viverroids (Malgasy carnivores, genets, civets...)
  • Binturong

Turtles
  • Aldabra giant tortoise
  • Diamondback terrapin
  • Galapagos giant tortoise
Crocodilians
  • Americsn Alligator
  • Cuvier's dwarf caiman
  • Gharial
  • Saltwater crocodile
  • Spectacled caiman

Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.

*Bovines and caprines not inckuded as they will get their own discussion
**Viverroids include hyenas and mongooses as well, but they already got their own discussions
This is my favorite one yet.

Antelopes
I mainly want the blackbuck as our last one for the purpose that we don't have a true Asian antelope yet. A species of dik dik is the only other inclusion I think would be warranted.

Viverroids
Foosa. This is all I want and all I need so badly. Wouldn't mind an African civet though.

Turtles
I'll start with the tortoises. Radiated or leopard is the most unique and striking choice since we don't have a colourful nor smaller Tortoise species. African Spurred is good for diversity but dosent really offer anything new.

Now for true turtles. River turtles are probably my most wanted animals for the game. I would prefer a softshell or snaked necked but the arrau River or pig nosed would also be fine. I don't have much interest in fully aquatic animals so even though their technically not sea turtles are a no anyway.

Crocodillians
Ok so hear me out. If we get 2 years of support I think we should get 3 more crocs. But with 1 year of support I think we still need one more this year. The main eligible choices are:

Tomistoma - looks colourful and unique compared to existing crocs and adds a 2nd for asia

Slender snouted crocodile - same as the tomistoma except it adds a first for Africa.

Freshwater crocodile - is one of the more common ones in zoos especially in a Australia
but is sort of outshined by the existing salty.

African dwarf crocodile - fills the same neice as the Slender snouted but also adds another small species. Depends if you want that though.

Nile crocodile - adds a first for Africa but not as unique like the other 2 African options.

Chinese Alligator - adds a second Alligator that's smaller than out existing one but I'd prefer getting a second croc first.

Hope you liked my analysis, excited for the next discussion.

Edit: forgot about Cuban crocs their cool too
 
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Finally, the time that the super long post i made evaluating every single ungulate species in captivy will pay of.

Antelopes:
Essential antelopes fall into 4 different category:
  • Small (Kirks Dik Dik, Red Duiker, ~ Yellow Backed Duiker might not be that small but still smaller then most antelopes)
  • Asian (Nilgai, Blackbuck, Saiga where i get why you wouldnt want an animal thats allmost not in zoos anymore, but it once was very common and the asian steppes are quite underepresented)
  • North African (Both the Addax and the Dhamas Gazelle are highly endangerd and would add some representation to the quite underrepresented north western africa)
  • Common Eeland (Almost Largest Antelope, very common Antelope, very unique looking Antelope, shame they wernt included in the grassland pack over the wilderbeest)
Id be happy if we get one of each category, eventhough in a perfect world wed get all 3 asian antelopes and both north african ones as all 5 of them are highly visually unique, common in zoos and add to underrepresented areas the best and most important thing, large space filler ungulates.

Viveroids:
Really essential id only count the fossa for giving madagascar something thats not a lemuridae (there are 5 big familys of lemures but the 3 we got are all part of the same), but any viverid would be atleast a neat addition and just like the mongooses id much rather have them as the pack carnivora then another canid.
My most favored would be the common genet for its massive range, decent number of captive holdings across both europe and north america and most importantly it would add an aboreal animal to the african savanah, northern africa, the middle east and even the iberian peninsula.. Its also a shadow addition for europe but especally the mediteranian, which is defenetly very nice.
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Turtles:
Long story short, im glad i dont feel like the only one anymore with a strong desire for the pig nosed turtle.
Its propaply our best bet at a mostly aquatic species, would fill out both tropical north australia and new guinea, two regions only represented by the cassowary and burrowing cockroach so far, extremly common in zoos, very unique taxonomically and also endangerd.
All in all 10/10 addition and my most wanted reptile to come to the game, only switching its space with the parsons chameleon depending on mood.
For tortoises, any smaller habitat tortoise would be a bliss, with the most likly choice feeling to be the radiated tortoise from madagascar, which isnt that small and would another animal to madagascar. But hey maybe someone at frontier will go completly nuts and give us the greek tortoise as an habitat level and if they do im gonna build so many small habitats for them, theyd be such wonderfull random filler and also add to europe and the mediteranian which is also a big plus.
While not as needed as an aquatic or smaller tortoise, the african spurred tortoise would add some representation to the sahel zone and also is just rediculously common in zoos.

Crocodiles:
Id agree with the africa take, i big disagree on the nile crocodile, its just a budget saltie.
Meanwhile both the african dwarf and the slendersnouted would be pretty cool.
Id also like to do a shout out to the australian fresh water crocodile for being some nice extra australian representation that can also run quite fast outside the water.
 
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Antelopes: I think this is a group where we can really never have too many. With that in mind, it’s a bit of a shame we didn’t see any as DLC during the first two years. Year 3 brought it back around with three new antelope, two of which were very much needed (sorry Nile lechwe), so I would love to see Year 4 continue this trend. The blackbuck is probably the best overall choice, giving us our first Asian antelope and a very unique looking one at that. The nilgai would also be nice for those same reasons, but it’s a bit less striking and I believe a bit less prevalent in captivity, so it’s a much lower priority. As for African antelope, I think the addax is the best choice. Its white coat and unique wavy horns make it an incredibly unique option, and the facts that it’s both a desert dweller and critically endangered are icing on the cake. The greater kudu is a solid second choice there, though. It’s absolutely iconic and set apart by its large size. Either eland species would also work in that regard, but they’re less visually striking and also, I believe, a bit less common in captivity. I’m also a huge fan of the bontebok - another conservation success story (seriously, read up on how the entire species was saved thanks to farmers managing to corral up the last ones in the early 20th century) and an absolutely beautiful coat. As for other full-sized antelope, I wouldn’t hate the impala, Addra gazelle, or sitatunga but I’m not dying for them; I think the saiga isn’t really necessary and while I know they have their genuine fans they overall strike me as a meme pick; the gerenuk weirds me out but I guess it’s fine; the roan antelope and Arabian oryx would be acceptable only in a designated clones pack.

For smaller antelope, I’d strongly prefer a duiker over the alternatives. Red-flanked is my preference, but really any of the common species would be welcome. Kirk's dik-dik and the klipsringer are the two others worth mention, and while I wouldn’t be opposed to either, I much prefer the synergy that a duiker would bring to the existing roster. A klipspringer would feel out of place without rock hyrax or another mongoose species for support, but the duiker slots in perfectly with our okapi and next to our existing tropical Africa lineup. Meanwhile, the dik-dik just sort of exists as its own less desirable thing, lacking the synergy of the duiker or the rock climbing appeal of the klipspringer.

Viverroids: Well, I think the fossa speaks for itself. We don’t have any Malagasy carnivores in the game, and it’s by far the most popular and prevalent. Naturally, it’d also allow us to make a Madagascar section that’s more than just a lemur section, but it’s also a small arboreal carnivore that can stand on its own on that basis. Easy, obvious inclusion. I’d also be remiss to not mention my personal favorite ring-tailed vontsira here. They’re a stunning creature, but they’re obscure and only kept in a small handful of zoos, so they’re obviously far from essential. I just think they’re neat.

In the viverrid camp, I’d love to see one more. The African civet has its appeal, being a large-ish African ground carnivore that’s not a cat, dog, or hyena. But for my money, I think the common genet is hands down one of the most versatile species we could get. It offers African, Middle Eastern, and (introduced) European representation. It’s (again) a small arboreal carnivore. I’ve seen them feature in both tropical houses and desert houses. It’s the perfect filler animal in my eyes, and easily justifiable even given just one more year of support.

Turtles: We are so desperately far behind where we should be with these guys. Unfortunately, I also think that our exhibit slots are destined for bigger and more unique things this year, so it’s very difficult to justify even a single smaller turtle at this point, for as much as we ought to have them. I think a few more habitat species are the way to go, with the African spurred tortoise being the obvious frontrunner. It would be our first mainland tortoise, a desert species, endangered, and exceptionally common in zoos of all sizes. And while I don’t actually expect to get more than one more, tops, I do think the radiated tortoise might be the best option for a second addition. It would provide some much needed visual contrast with our otherwise very dull tortoises (this would include the African spurred), it’s critically endangered, and if paired with the fossa we could actually pull off a halfway diverse Madagascar area. I’ve seen arguments that these guys should be exhibit species given their size, but personally I’ve only ever seen them in open outdoor enclosures. I guess I also may as well bring up the alligator snapping turtle, a species I used to be very passionate about, but I’ve since lost most of my interest. Still, it would pair well with the alligator and be truly unique from anything else in the game, but their sedentary nature extends above and beyond what I’m interested in allowing for a habitat species. I wouldn’t be upset if we got it, but overall I’d much prefer additional land-based species. Also, I have 0 interest in a sea turtle, and think that even though they would technically work with our current habitat system, it isn’t remotely optimized for a nearly fully aquatic species.

Crocodilians: I think an African species would be nice to see, and I still think a slender-snouted crocodile what we should’ve gotten over the spectacled caiman. Can I justify a sixth crocodilian with as little as one year of support left, though? I’m not sure. It would be another medium sized species, somewhat visually unique and flesh out tropical Africa a bit, as well as cover the conspicuous absence of an African crocodile, but I’m just not sure it’s warranted when there’s so many other things to add. Either way, it’s preferable to the Nile crocodile, whose only real edge over the saltie as far as I’m concerned is being from Africa.
 
Random bontebock fact.
Bontebock are dying out both in the EAZA and AZA with only single indiviual animals remaining.
The animal your actually seeing in zoos is the very similar looking blesbock
 
I can't believe I'm saying this...but....

I didn't realize we don't have a single Asian Antelope in the game. I can amend my initial answer, but I just want my suggestion to be counted correctly, so if amending it is better, just let me know @yoav_r

I think at least 1 Asian antelope is necessary, and probably 2. Even though they're not kept in many (any?) zoos, my pick would be the Saiga Antelope. It's looks nothing like any other Antelopes and would give us another animal for Western Asia. A Blackbuck would be a good second choice.

As far as African antelopes, I really don't think anymore are necessary, but since the local zoo has the Giant Eland, I wouldn't be opposed to its addition. And honestly the Impala has always been interesting to me, and if we didn't have so many African Antelopes already I would want to see that in. But it's just sooooo many already IMO (and just my opinion) I'm truly okay if no more African Antelopes show up.
 
Random bontebock fact.
Bontebock are dying out both in the EAZA and AZA with only single indiviual animals remaining.
The animal your actually seeing in zoos is the very similar looking blesbock
I love how vague the differences are which basically anyone who isn't an expert won't know at all

"having less white on the coat and the blaze on the face, which is usually divided, the coat is also a lighter yellow than that of the bontebok"

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