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I'll start with News about a Giant Tortoise eating a Bird (of which I hope that the Footage isn't against the Forum Rules. There's no Blood or similar Stuff seen in the Video) and Thylacine Footage with reconstructed Colors

https://amp.theguardian.com/environ...ortoise-filmed-attacking-and-eating-baby-bird

 
I was going to post the tassie Tiger footage too, but you beat me to it… it’s pretty amazing but super depressing.
 
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My (U.S) state (Oregon) has a petition that's trying to make it on the ballot. If it does, it would end the participation of the local zoo (Oregon Zoo) in endangered species breeding programs, most particularly the California Condor program, and the upcoming black rhino program.
 

My (U.S) state (Oregon) has a petition that's trying to make it on the ballot. If it does, it would end the participation of the local zoo (Oregon Zoo) in endangered species breeding programs, most particularly the California Condor program, and the upcoming black rhino program.
Let me guess, one of PETA's recent stunts managing to go further because it's crazy town anyway
 
Let me guess, one of PETA's recent stunts managing to go further because it's crazy town anyway
No idea. The info isn't available on the Secretary of State's site yet. My guess is that it is a group whose sum thinking is "Meat=bad". I wrote them an email with questions about how they think their petition would affect breeding programs, and the salmon hatchery program (Going to school for the latter). But that was like... Thursday or Friday night. Not sure they'll get back to me, because I don't think that they thought the petition through before writing it.
 
🤦🏻‍♂️ This reminds me of the Time I signed a Petition that someone created, I think it was for better Care of Animals and then one Day there was a Update about making Meat Consumption illegal or something similar. Luckily Support could remove my Signature. Those People would probably also try to feed a Lion with Carrots (Funfact: there was a Lion once that was vegetarian. The Owners tried for a long Time to get her to eat Meat but they weren't able to do it. But this doesn't mean People should try to force a vegetarian Diet on Carnivores. It would be like forcing a Cow to eat Meat)

Edit: reading the Article somehow reminded me of that Peta Village from South Park 😂
 
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Yeah, they like to use those here as well. They are targeting the 2022 ballot, so they have almost a year to get 112k signatures. I'll have no doubt that they'll add something like that to prevent import of meat.

Though an import note, and also fun fact. Beyond burgers (The veggie ones) are getting popular around here, but where I am in the U.S, the Pacific Northwest. They aren't better than normal hamburgers in terms of carbon dioxide. There is actually a local fast food chain, where 70% of the ingrdients come from within a fifty mile radius of the store, and all ingredients come from within the Northwest. One of those burgers has a lower footprint than a beyond burger, which has to be trucked over from St Louis (a journey of ~2000 miles, or 3200km).
 
Ive got some cool news from germany, the zoo duisburg opened its Caribbean house last week. After renovating an old, empty part of their aquarium, they have rebuild it into a cuban beach to house some threatend animals from the island, most prominently the threatend cuban iguana Ivan, aswell as his mate and a second male for breeding purpouses.
Hes joined by a free flying pair of Socorro doves, endemic to the island of socorro, where they sadly are extinct in the wild, but breeding programs hope to reintroduce them back to the wild.
But if we are talking about breeding, they actually already had success, with two cuban hutrias already being born at the zoo. While not being threatend (yet), its a promising opening for the house, + cute baby rats on the first day? If that isnt a steal, i dont know.


Ivan, relaxing on his sandy beach, like he deserves.
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One of their socorro doves, beautiful, isnt he?
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And a hutria, the third star of this little section.
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In the middle is the iguana beach, with an enclosure for the hutrias and a third iguana on the left. In the foreground you can see terrariums for jamaican boas and cuban giant leaf scares. There are also Grahams anoles, but i dont know if they live with the iguanas or if they have there own terrarium.
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Beyond burgers (The veggie ones) are getting popular around here, but where I am in the U.S, the Pacific Northwest. They aren't better than normal hamburgers in terms of carbon dioxide. There is actually a local fast food chain, where 70% of the ingrdients come from within a fifty mile radius of the store, and all ingredients come from within the Northwest. One of those burgers has a lower footprint than a beyond burger, which has to be trucked over from St Louis
I've had a beyond burger (specifically the Impossible Whopper). Honestly, they aren't that different, flavor-wise, than a regular hamburger. But it sounds weird; imma just stick with a real burger or even a real veggie burger, which are great, too.

I don't know much about animal news lately, but I suggest y'all check out Chunk the groundhog and maybe another story about Charlie the chipmunk
 
Yeah, they like to use those here as well. They are targeting the 2022 ballot, so they have almost a year to get 112k signatures. I'll have no doubt that they'll add something like that to prevent import of meat.

Though an import note, and also fun fact. Beyond burgers (The veggie ones) are getting popular around here, but where I am in the U.S, the Pacific Northwest. They aren't better than normal hamburgers in terms of carbon dioxide. There is actually a local fast food chain, where 70% of the ingrdients come from within a fifty mile radius of the store, and all ingredients come from within the Northwest. One of those burgers has a lower footprint than a beyond burger, which has to be trucked over from St Louis (a journey of ~2000 miles, or 3200km).
That’s as good a reason not to have them as any, and better than most. One thing I would say, however, is that, if the major source of emissions is transport, then having a more local supplier. This is only likely if there’s local demand. As with many issues there are competing factors to take account of and different people will come to different conclusions based on their own values. In this case a lot depends on how much you value reduction in carbon dioxide vs. animal welfare vs. how much you don’t want to be one vegetarian which is, after all, the best way of reducing your carbon emissions if that’s your priority.
 
That’s as good a reason not to have them as any, and better than most. One thing I would say, however, is that, if the major source of emissions is transport, then having a more local supplier.
In the U.S that is the largest source of emissions for the beef industry. Since a lot of people in the U.S do not live within a hundred miles of a cattle producing farm.
World wide, the big impact of the beef industry comes from places like Brazil, where they slash and burn rainforest to achieve rangeland for a few years.
In this case a lot depends on how much you value reduction in carbon dioxide vs. animal welfare vs. how much you don’t want to be one vegetarian which is, after all, the best way of reducing your carbon emissions if that’s your priority.
I will say that will depend. Like, in the U.S, energy generation creates more greenhouse gasses than the beef industry. And in a general trend, world wide, the vast, vast majority of greenhouses are generated via power for industry, and the global 1%. So unfortunately the only real and effective actions are legislative.
 
Ive got some cool news from germany, the zoo duisburg opened its Caribbean house last week. After renovating an old, empty part of their aquarium, they have rebuild it into a cuban beach to house some threatend animals from the island, most prominently the threatend cuban iguana Ivan, aswell as his mate and a second male for breeding purpouses.
Hes joined by a free flying pair of Socorro doves, endemic to the island of socorro, where they sadly are extinct in the wild, but breeding programs hope to reintroduce them back to the wild.
But if we are talking about breeding, they actually already had success, with two cuban hutrias already being born at the zoo. While not being threatend (yet), its a promising opening for the house, + cute baby rats on the first day? If that isnt a steal, i dont know.


Ivan, relaxing on his sandy beach, like he deserves.
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One of their socorro doves, beautiful, isnt he?
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And a hutria, the third star of this little section.
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In the middle is the iguana beach, with an enclosure for the hutrias and a third iguana on the left. In the foreground you can see terrariums for jamaican boas and cuban giant leaf scares. There are also Grahams anoles, but i dont know if they live with the iguanas or if they have there own terrarium.
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Thanks for sharing this. The Beach Enclosure looks absolutely amazing.
I think this is the Zoo that I visited on my Birthday but it's so far away from where I live, so maybe I'll visit again on my next Birthday 🤔
 
I will say that will depend. Like, in the U.S, energy generation creates more greenhouse gasses than the beef industry. And in a general trend, world wide, the vast, vast majority of greenhouses are generated via power for industry, and the global 1%. So unfortunately the only real and effective actions are legislative.
Yeah, totally agree - I was only talking about the choice of beef vs. alternatives, not whole-of-life / whole of economy choices.
 
Saw this quite recently, which I found interesting. Spotted hyenas living in and around a city in Ethiopia are thought to save, on average, five human lives and $52,000 in disease control costs per year. They eat the leftovers of animal carcasses that otherwise become infested with anthrax and bovine tuberculosis and become health risks to both people and livestock.

 
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