animals should not be the stars of the game - and whats needed to keep it that way

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i am very happy with the concept of the game as it is as a zoo manager simulation, and hope, that it will not be turned into a anmal-ineraction game, that puts too much focus on animal appearences. i hope frontier will go deeper in zoo-managemant features and less in cosmetics. i fear that, because it is suggested by some lately. it would make the game very fast very boring.
 
As was suggested in another thread, why not play planet coaster? If you have no care for the animal, and main, aspect of this game. I’m curious if the moderator really did suspend your ability to post on that topic so you came here to complain more.

There is a reason that thread has so many comments, and it is because many feel the need to improve the aspect of individual personality. As numerous people on that thread have discussed, they believe new personalities for animals would make the game deeper and more challenging to ensure animal happiness. I have a feeling you will behave as you did in the other thread. But all in all, no one has proposed taking management away. If it is fine as is in your eyes, then it will be equally as good with better animal interactions as well as visuals. The other, more thoughtful post wants to increase visuals and zoo management.

Also, perhaps to be dinged by a moderator...I find your reversal of title and overall attitude to be a bit childish and rude.
 
As was suggested in another thread, why not play planet coaster? If you have no care for the animal, and main, aspect of this game. I’m curious if the moderator really did suspend your ability to post on that topic so you came here to complain more.

There is a reason that thread has so many comments, and it is because many feel the need to improve the aspect of individual personality. As numerous people on that thread have discussed, they believe new personalities for animals would make the game deeper and more challenging to ensure animal happiness. I have a feeling you will behave as you did in the other thread. But all in all, no one has proposed taking management away. If it is fine as is in your eyes, then it will be equally as good with better animal interactions as well as visuals. The other, more thoughtful post wants to increase visuals and zoo management.

Also, perhaps to be dinged by a moderator...I find your reversal of title and overall attitude to be a bit childish and rude.

that is personal and has nothing to do with the topic. also you offended me personally, thats against the forum-rules.
 
I would have to disagree. The first two paragraphs have everything to do with the topic. One gives an alternative that is all park management, a part you enjoy.

The second paragraphs responds to your desire to keep animals simplified. It disagrees with your point, but it is in fact a response.

I already conceded that the third may be dinged, but that was a personal choice because I did not appreciate the reversal of title because others on the last thread did not agree.

Also...what is needed to keep it that way? I’m not seeing that answered in your post. Do you have ideas how and why zoo management should be made deeper?
 
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I would have to disagree. The first two paragraphs have everything to do with the topic. One gives an alternative that is all park management, a part you enjoy.

The second paragraphs responds to your desire to keep animals simplified. It disagrees with your point, but it is in fact a response.

I already conceded that the third may be dinged, but that was a personal choice because I did not appreciate the reversal of title because others on the last thread did not agree.

so the issue with your circle is, that a have a different opinion on this, and should not be allowed to contaminate it? and as a result you demanded to block me, so that that unwelcome opinion is removed?
 
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You seem confused. Not at all. You can check. I never once posted there. I just happened to read your comments on there and thought I’d add a response here. Not my circle. Not my fight. You can feel however you want. The title of this could simply be good job frontier, I hope zoo management continues to be developed for this game I enjoy. And personally, I believe the zoo management should be developed as well. You went for mockery in place of praise.

I am genuinely curious though. Do you have any ideas on how the zoo should be made deeper? What aspects should be focused on over animals? Maybe if you had a plan or basis, people could agree more with your approach.
 
You seem confused. Not at all. You can check. I never once posted there. I just happened to read your comments on there and thought I’d add a response here. Not my circle. Not my fight. You can feel however you want. The title of this could simply be good job frontier, I hope zoo management continues to be developed for this game I enjoy. You went for mockery in place of praise.

I am genuinely curious though. Do you have any ideas on how the zoo should be made deeper? What aspects should be focused on over animals? Maybe if you had a plan or basis, people could agree more with your approach.

education facilities, real resarch-effects, different demands of different guest types (children, adults), aquariums, tanks, zoo-cooperations and research cooperations in franchise with or without other players. i just write that because you asked, but it is not important, because there are already 1000 of sugestions in the forum for more real features instead of cosmetics. so, no, i am not allone, your circle just want to put me in that corner. i dont know exectly why, you could just let my comment as they are, but there is always somebody that feels the need to pull it down. and dont ly, of course you are absolutely not curious, you do NOT care about my opinion, you just feel offended by it for no reason.
 
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I’m going to end with this. I’m not very active on these forums, but your post warranted a response. That page wants zoo management and animal variety. The OP wrote, “Maybe we need to change the habitat, because the shy individual in the lion pride needs more places to hide. Maybe the one Mandrill gets bullied in his current group but can shine in a new one.” That adds to management. People were confused with you because most of them do not want management to be forgotten and cast aside. They want management and animals to continuously be improved, and they feel the animals are lacking at the moment.


There are numerous on that page who disagreed and were accepted. Luuknord, being a very popular and active poster, disagreed/did not support very early on. Your general attitude and accusations were what led to that.

This is my last post, but the way people go about things says volumes. You were not “attacked” because of a different view. You are entitled to that view. You were told to behave or leave because of your posts and how they came across. Much how this reworded, rude title comes across.

There are others who feel the same way you do. Many, but they are not reacted to in the same way as you. That forum has many whondo not agree with the thread. Personally, I hope that, whenever possible due to this pandemic, Frontier helps deepen and improve all aspects of the game.
 
You were told to behave or leave because of your posts and how they came across.

then pls tell me, what the big problem was, i still dont know. my posts are still there. i got kicked, when others liked them. so approval caused that? are you realy offended when i refer the demanded color variants to dressing and doing makeup? and what is offensive if i call another game shallow? a swamp is also shallow, and if i tell you idont like shallow water and swamps, i offended you because you like swamps? i still dont get it. that is too stange to me.
 
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Your points about a swamp is laughable and may have made my day.

I am not offended by your beliefs on the game. I commented because of the mean spirit behind the title and many of your responses led me to want to comment. Many feel the way you do, and many want some of the suggestions made in zoo management. I personally think many of the items you brought up in the random list are great ideas from other threads and hope many get implemented. I do think both need attention.

I’m going to get going because the thread is turning similair to the one you were kicked in. Perhaps I get kicked from this thread. At this point I am undoubtedly off topic, but, then again, so are you. Though, I believe you knew this topic would go another direction. With your mean spirited title, it was inevitable.
 
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"Your points about a swamp is laughable and may have made my day." then you didnt understand it, i cant help that. every word i read from you, attac me personally, everything i write is about my opnion of the game and the unjustified reaction of others, why is that trolling? it seems, that no mattter how much i explain, you jst want to pull me as low as posible. and as i said you dont care about my opinion, you already had yours before you start reading.
 
Agreed the management needs to stay the same. On the other hand variants such as coat colors and stripe patterns and personalities promote realism.
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Siberian tigers different stripe patterns and even different shades of orange in individuals.
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Zt2 modders have the right idea also in this area.
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African elephants different skin colors.
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The two male lions at my zoo. The older male up top has different features and a strip of mane fur along the belly. The younger male on the bottom has no belly fur and different colors and features.
 
The lion may have been a bad example since we are talking about the West African lion. Still this species doesn’t always have the big stereotypical mane lions are known for and some color variations of the mane would be more realistic. Don’t get me wrong I don’t expect all these rare color morphs but different shades of normal colors would be great.
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Two normal representations of west African lions
 
cosmetics

Social interactions,refined animal behavior,changes to the current group (calculation) system amd morphological differences have literally nothing to do with "cosmetics".Cosmetics in Planet Zoo are the things you get for your character from completing the Community Challenges; this includes for example hats,t-shirts,pants etc.

dressing and doing makeup

Same goes for this "comparison".All of the above mentioned features regarding the animals have nothing to do with makeup nor is anybody suggesting costumes or the like for animals - also calling morphological differences unrealistic is just ridiculous.

it would make the game very fast very boring.

Just can't take that argument seriously.All of the above mentioned (and all other ones) suggested animal aspects,will only contribute to the exact opposite.The game will get much less boring,because the replayability,immersion,depth and thus the overall longetivity of the game will get a major boost.

I don't know why such an obvious troll thread isn't being deleted.No way that someone finds these "arguments" reasonable or logical.
 

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Hey folks, going to step in to close this one. This topic, albeit form the other viewpoint, is already being discussed in this thread and there doesn't need to be two when counter points can be given in that thread. The posts are getting a bit personal as well. Remember always discuss the topic, not the poster.
 
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