News Announcement: Elite: Dangerous coming to Xbox One

[Slopey]

So, essentially all those features that were supposed to be in the game at launch, are missing because resources had to be allocated for console port development?
I couldn't help but to notice that no answer has been given to question, concerning whether partnership with Microsoft will delay patching the pc game. Few other concerns have been addressed by the devs, but not this one, no and i think we all know why.

And then there is this:
"Elite: Dangerous on Xbox One will be the complete and authentic Elite: Dangerous experience. It will not be "dumbed down"."
This one really triggered my radar. Console version will not be dumbed down? Well yes, because you have to dumb down the "lead platform game" so it can be ported over to consoles. That is how it goes with pretty much every console port. It would be an immense waste of resources to have two different versions of the same game developed at the same time. Solution? Make them identical and in this scenario the weaker platform dictates performance limits. This one answers the question about patch delays, too.

If i'm wrong and pc version will not be dumbed down -including any future content, nor will the patching get a whole lot slower than it is now, then it is going to be some sort of a record since a lot bigger studios/publishers have taken a different route on this.

You're missing the important point that FD's Cobra engine is already multi-platform for PC and Xbox.

See: https://www.frontier.co.uk/our_technology/

So there won't have been a massive resource drain anyway. Likely it's been more licencing discussions - remember that Microsoft want a piece of anything you play on an XB device, and FD have been vocal about self publishing ED, so there must have been many discussions between MS and FD before DBOBE would let ED near that platform - I would find it impossible to think (given his, and Elite's history) that he'd accept any interference in ED from MS, just to get on the platform.

Given Cobra, the port is a no-brainer - most of the dev team play with Xbox controllers anyway, and they have voice chat already implemented. So it's a win-win - it's not much work to publish to Xbox, and it's a massive new player base who won't have been following the (very niche) PC Space Sim market.

Can only be a good thing imho, and I'll need to go and by an XBone now!

 

[Ideas Man]

and if PC players thought the penalties for getting killed without insurance were harsh, wait until the "die, go back 5 seconds and try again" console crowd have to deal with it!

You never played Dark Souls?
Or any console game?

Is your frame of reference Ghouls n Ghosts or what?

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Can only be a good thing imho, and I'll need to go and by an XBone now!

Dude is great to be excited but lets not go saying things we regret here

 

[Sanderson]

Yes, i'm sure they have a dedicated team for console porting, but imagine if that team would have be merged with the team responsible of creating content for pc version. We might actually have a game filled with content by now, instead of just a solid foundation to build on top of.

What i can't understand is why not to make games for pc and utilize all the horsepower they have at their fingertips and then, after the technological envelope has been pushed a bit further than last time, the game would be ported to consoles -as well as possible. Best of both worlds, no?

So, one game/platform at the time, start with the strongest platform (pc), stretching the tech as far as possible and then port for weaker platforms (consoles) as well as possible.
rather than;
Developing a game with terms of the weaker platform and "pretending" that everything is been done to create a leading edge product.

Oh and i'm worried about MS ruling the pace of updates, especially since both versions of the game are essentially the same, as stated previously.

The only real difference, these days, between a Xbone/PS4 game and a PC game, is just the machine it's released on. All are developed on a PC and requires very little (as compared to previous generation consoles) to port to either system. Essentially, make a game on PC, optimise as needed for each console. ED may well not be "reduced" to the Xbone requirements for performance, it's quite possible it's the other way around. Just saying.

There's a few examples of a PC Game not only looking better but, also having features that it's consoles cousins don't.

 

[Astronage]

broken game not enogh revenue? ... dump it on another platform

 

[Ideas Man]

broken game not enogh revenue? ... dump it on another platform

Ten words and you spell one wrong lol

 

[Slopey]

Dude is great to be excited but lets not go saying things we regret here

LOL - tbh, now that Unity Pro supports XBox One, I'm keen to have a play - granted, that's still 5-10k of dev licences/insurances before you get anything released, but hey. Remember that Elite clone on the X360 marketplace?

Anyways - my kids are obsessed with Minecraft on the XB (although they've now discovered the Annoying Orange/Mineplex servers on the PC), Kinectemals and PvZ:GW, so the 360 isn't going anywhere. Time for an upgrade methinks

ED has swung it.

I wonder if there'll be a custom console deco sort of tie in, where the disc slot is a station docking port, and it's all in FD livery? I'd likely pay stupid money for one!

 

[Bostlabs]

This won't work. Trust me. One forum will be the central general discussion forum, most likely the one that already exists. I mean, think about it, if you were an XBox player, why wouldn't you read and post in the forum that is already established and has all the interesting threads? An XBox-related subforum will effectively only be useful for disussing topics that apply only to that version, or the console as a whole.

That is exactly how it is setup on Titanfall's forum. One general discussion where all mix and separate forums for Xbox and PC.

BTW; I'm 55 and own an Xbox One and have had each version of the Xbox. They are pretty good systems. My PC is a bit dated but I can still play Elite on ultra.
It will be interesting on how FD fits all of ED's goodies into it to be handled by a controller. Maybe MS will come out with a HOTAS for the system.
I don't plan to get an Xbox One copy though. I'm invested good on my PC and having a blast.

 

[Ideas Man]

LOL - tbh, now that Unity Pro supports XBox One, I'm keen to have a play - granted, that's still 5-10k of dev licences/insurances before you get anything released, but hey. Remember that Elite clone on the X360 marketplace?

Anyways - my kids are obsessed with Minecraft on the XB (although they've now discovered the Annoying Orange/Mineplex servers on the PC), Kinectemals and PvZ:GW, so the 360 isn't going anywhere. Time for an upgrade methinks

ED has swung it.

I wonder if there'll be a custom console deco sort of tie in, where the disc slot is a station docking port, and it's all in FD livery? I'd likely pay stupid money for one!

Unity licenses changed just recently, you may already know, sorry if that is the case.
Unreal Engine have responded with a great deal too but we are using Unity to create our game so I mainly know about that side of things, and I don't know a huge deal about Unity licensing anyway

Edit: And as for Minecraft, yeah that has its teeth into my son too! It's actually pretty good fun I find.

 

[Sanderson]

LOL - tbh, now that Unity Pro supports XBox One, I'm keen to have a play - granted, that's still 5-10k of dev licences/insurances before you get anything released, but hey. Remember that Elite clone on the X360 marketplace?

Anyways - my kids are obsessed with Minecraft on the XB (although they've now discovered the Annoying Orange/Mineplex servers on the PC), Kinectemals and PvZ:GW, so the 360 isn't going anywhere. Time for an upgrade methinks

ED has swung it.

I wonder if there'll be a custom console deco sort of tie in, where the disc slot is a station docking port, and it's all in FD livery? I'd likely pay stupid money for one!

I won't be running out to buy a Xbone any time soon, even with fancy vinyl on it but, I would take a custom ED Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS with "twist" rudder and reconfigured buttons please

 

[Steve50]

It's great news all round I think, can't wait for the new guys to arrive

You may regret that..

You only need to peek at some of the console forums such as gamefaqs to see how hostile and disgusting some.. Uhm most of the people are.

 

[Ideas Man]

You may regret that..

You only need to peek at some of the console forums such as gamefaqs to see how hostile and disgusting some.. Uhm most of the people are.

Yeah then it'll be even more fun to kill them in game!
Seriously, we'll be OK here - console gamers are here and amongst us already probably and we don't even notice!

 

[Iron-Snake-]

*throws in towel*

*cries a little*

* okay a lot*

 

[Ideas Man]

They should make it so the CONSOLE KIDS space ships are Mario Karts or Sonic The Hedgehogs in game so we know who to hate properly, because as it stands this might make no real difference at all in game and we can't have that!

 

[Mr_Blastman]

So crossplay is confirmed? I'll be able to blast apart console players on my PC?

 

[Bostlabs]

You may regret that..

You only need to peek at some of the console forums such as gamefaqs to see how hostile and disgusting some.. Uhm most of the people are.

Yeah and take a look at forums that also have a PC section on the game. Same thing/different platform.
Each have Jerks and Elitist.

 

[buellpilot]

Seriously, we'll be OK here - console gamers are here and amongst us already probably and we don't even notice!

Yes hiding in plain sight so ashamed of our 'console' history.

Commodore64 -> Megadrive -> PC -> Playstation 1 -> Playstation 2 -> PC -> Xbox 360 -> PC -> Xbox One
Elite ----------------------------> Elite ----------------------------------------------------------> Elite -> Elite

 

[Ideas Man]

Yes hiding in plain sight so ashamed of our 'console' history.

Commodore64 -> Megadrive -> PC -> Playstation 1 -> Playstation 2 -> PC -> Xbox 360 -> PC -> Xbox One
Elite -> Elite -> Elite -> Elite

Atari 2600 started me off, even back then I was putting 'kick me' stickers on computer users backs and causing a right old kerfuffle I tell you

 

[Darkmater]

Wow, so guess its downhill from here. To bad, haven't seen a game recover from this move, PC version is about to be simplified because hey the DEVs feel it was to complex with to many keys. Look we made it better by removing key binds and functions. I guess there goes my planetary landings and walking around expansion pass purchase too.

Thanks Obama.

 

[Ideas Man]

It is the end of days

 

[buellpilot]

Atari 2600 started me off, even back then I was putting 'kick me' stickers on computer users backs and causing a right old kerfuffle I tell you

I was going to put Atari 2600 in the list but it would have been a lie, as it was a friends, of course I virtually moved in with his Atari