News Announcement: Elite: Dangerous coming to Xbox One
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I agree with the reference to the lowest denominator, it could be what the game is developed for.
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Absolutely no problem here.
Since XBox is basically a PC in a shiny casing, that has better hardware and optimisation than most PCs i have seen in this forum, its even highly unllikely that the performance will get worse.
About the other conspiracys:
No, i dont think that Elite was designed for XBox and that we are betatesting for them.
4 Player Teams, UI Control etc...all very common thing that were designed with a huge variety of players in mind.
4 players is simply the most common amount in groups. Healer, Tank, 2 DDs. Assault, Tank Destroyer, Medic, Support. Scout, Long Range, Defender, Interceptor.
Humans (thats us) can only focus on around 3 or 4 things at a time...pretty handy to have just 4 or 5 player teams then.
Interface? PC offers so many different controlls...Gamepad, Keyboard, Mouse, Joystick, Headtracking...it just makes sense to design one interface that fits for all of them.
Overly complicated designs are a bad thing, Elite does it right. Intuitive controls and windows.
Sure, you can always do it better, but FD has done a good job so far.
As far as i understood, Xbox players will have their own Galaxy but with the same community events. So they can contribute at the same time we can and we both could win or loose?
That would be nice on one side, but also bad.
Imagine the current situation, on PC there is a blockade from Empire to stop Feds from building the Capital - if thats not the case on Xbox, we cant stop them.
So i hope XBox players will share the galaxy with us, since both our gaming systems are so similar. They can play with joysticks too, so i guess i would not even notice a difference.
So yeah, i think the idea to support XBox is nice.
Community grows, more income, more players...so why not?
The main focus is and stays on PC, XBox will just get the same patches, needs to be optimized only once though. But thats all.
So yeah, thanks for the news FD and good luck with it
Since XBox is basically a PC in a shiny casing, that has better hardware and optimisation than most PCs i have seen in this forum, its even highly unllikely that the performance will get worse.
About the other conspiracys:
No, i dont think that Elite was designed for XBox and that we are betatesting for them.
4 Player Teams, UI Control etc...all very common thing that were designed with a huge variety of players in mind.
4 players is simply the most common amount in groups. Healer, Tank, 2 DDs. Assault, Tank Destroyer, Medic, Support. Scout, Long Range, Defender, Interceptor.
Humans (thats us) can only focus on around 3 or 4 things at a time...pretty handy to have just 4 or 5 player teams then.
Interface? PC offers so many different controlls...Gamepad, Keyboard, Mouse, Joystick, Headtracking...it just makes sense to design one interface that fits for all of them.
Overly complicated designs are a bad thing, Elite does it right. Intuitive controls and windows.
Sure, you can always do it better, but FD has done a good job so far.
As far as i understood, Xbox players will have their own Galaxy but with the same community events. So they can contribute at the same time we can and we both could win or loose?
That would be nice on one side, but also bad.
Imagine the current situation, on PC there is a blockade from Empire to stop Feds from building the Capital - if thats not the case on Xbox, we cant stop them.
So i hope XBox players will share the galaxy with us, since both our gaming systems are so similar. They can play with joysticks too, so i guess i would not even notice a difference.
So yeah, i think the idea to support XBox is nice.
Community grows, more income, more players...so why not?
The main focus is and stays on PC, XBox will just get the same patches, needs to be optimized only once though. But thats all.
So yeah, thanks for the news FD and good luck with it
I think this is great move for this game, although from a control perspective I feel like they need to bake in voice commands through the Kinect, otherwise the control experience will be very clunky with just an Xbox controller. Hopefully when they do that PC players can gain that benefit too. I think voice attack is fine though, so I'm not complaining for sure.
What are the issues with this being on XONE (and other consoles in the future)? What has been "dumbed down" due to this? I can't really see anything as of yet.
Wings being 4 players only? Well other games on XONE has +10 players in each team so that isn't the case. Graphics? Cmon, the graphics are superb. Future development? Well if it is successful on the consoles it would increase the team and commitment from Frontier for the game (Frontier is a business after all). Afraid of focusing on wrong stuff (regarding additional stuff for the game, patches dlc etc).... why is a console gamer different compared to a PC gamer in regards to what they want in the game?
Wings being 4 players only? Well other games on XONE has +10 players in each team so that isn't the case. Graphics? Cmon, the graphics are superb. Future development? Well if it is successful on the consoles it would increase the team and commitment from Frontier for the game (Frontier is a business after all). Afraid of focusing on wrong stuff (regarding additional stuff for the game, patches dlc etc).... why is a console gamer different compared to a PC gamer in regards to what they want in the game?
Looks like the graphics nerf after beta was very intentional. Bye bye PC graphics, we will miss you.
I was pretty sure I`m backing beasty PC only game like SC. I`m upset now.
I was pretty sure I`m backing beasty PC only game like SC. I`m upset now.
For me, this is incredibly exciting news!
It remains to be seen how this will be integrated though I'd love for us to share the same servers, instances etc. I've been waiting a long time for cross platform multiplayer...
For elite, control scheme isn't quite the same issue as say a fps, since many pc players use a game pad anyway. And just as it is on a pc now, if you really want to use a hotas, it simply means picking a platform to match.
What I really really really would love to see is a bold decision to allow players to interact, whilst naturally keeping the communities initially separate.
What do I mean?
Option 1
create a station infrastructure like the one we have now but thousands of light years away it's not like there isn't systems to do this) , make this new area for Xbox , player culture maybe a little different (we all expect more war like) , but the culture will fit the community based there.
Still players from either side can venture into the other's space seamlessly, how these two separate cultures interact would be entirely left to the players.
Option 2 ) you could get even bolder in the design! Make that separate community the thargoids (or other alien race) , it'd take lots of implementation, so probably less viable, but just imagine the possibilities. It'd be ground breaking, and account readily for any out of game factors that make the two races different!
It remains to be seen how this will be integrated though I'd love for us to share the same servers, instances etc. I've been waiting a long time for cross platform multiplayer...
For elite, control scheme isn't quite the same issue as say a fps, since many pc players use a game pad anyway. And just as it is on a pc now, if you really want to use a hotas, it simply means picking a platform to match.
What I really really really would love to see is a bold decision to allow players to interact, whilst naturally keeping the communities initially separate.
What do I mean?
Option 1
create a station infrastructure like the one we have now but thousands of light years away it's not like there isn't systems to do this) , make this new area for Xbox , player culture maybe a little different (we all expect more war like) , but the culture will fit the community based there.Still players from either side can venture into the other's space seamlessly, how these two separate cultures interact would be entirely left to the players.
Option 2 ) you could get even bolder in the design! Make that separate community the thargoids (or other alien race) , it'd take lots of implementation, so probably less viable, but just imagine the possibilities. It'd be ground breaking, and account readily for any out of game factors that make the two races different!
The graphics still look great, Just because they are reduced so it's playerble on a console doesn't mean the PC game needs to be nerfed in anyway. I don't understand your fallacy of logic.
It looked tremendously better in first beta stages, especially planet rings. They cant buff the PC graphics too much over other platforms so ppl dont get upset.
I do not understand all the sudden whining here. Elite: Dangerous has probably the largest support for controllers of all types, whether that's Xbox controller, Mouse and keyboard, single joystick or a full HOTAS or HOTAS plus pedals, The game feels great on all of them.
Funny thing about the Xbox controller is that they are by design perfect for controlling aerial units travelling in a 3 Dimensional spatial location. Haven't you guys noticed that an RC place has a similar Axes configuration on its on controller than the Xbox controller? 2 Axes joysticks plus buttons etc.
I personally REALLY am looking forward to this, Not because I plan to ever go on to a console and play this, But because I logically Understand that more players= More profit = Further Development and Economic certainty that this game will absolutely be the game of all games.
Remember, this isn't EA or Activision or any of those greedy corporations, This is Frontier Developments, They self publish their own games, THEY ARE IN CONTROL!
And they are genuine.
Congrats on the Xbox release, I look forward to a whole new horizon of new players.
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Planet rings look worse than before because No one is talking about on the forums and actively communicating with FD that the rings suck.
If you want something to look better, COMPLAIN ABOUT IT!! XD
If enough people do so, Then Michael brookes will bring relief to the thread with his "we'll look into this" comment.
Almost all bad things that the whole community cried about were fixed by FD because FD actually saw that the community took notice, If no one talks to FD they will never know about it.
I see ZERO threads on the topic on rings, (Ironically, I have my own thread about it in fact!)
Funny thing about the Xbox controller is that they are by design perfect for controlling aerial units travelling in a 3 Dimensional spatial location. Haven't you guys noticed that an RC place has a similar Axes configuration on its on controller than the Xbox controller? 2 Axes joysticks plus buttons etc.
I personally REALLY am looking forward to this, Not because I plan to ever go on to a console and play this, But because I logically Understand that more players= More profit = Further Development and Economic certainty that this game will absolutely be the game of all games.
Remember, this isn't EA or Activision or any of those greedy corporations, This is Frontier Developments, They self publish their own games, THEY ARE IN CONTROL!
And they are genuine.
Congrats on the Xbox release, I look forward to a whole new horizon of new players.
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Planet rings look worse than before because No one is talking about on the forums and actively communicating with FD that the rings suck.
If you want something to look better, COMPLAIN ABOUT IT!! XD
If enough people do so, Then Michael brookes will bring relief to the thread with his "we'll look into this" comment.
Almost all bad things that the whole community cried about were fixed by FD because FD actually saw that the community took notice, If no one talks to FD they will never know about it.
I see ZERO threads on the topic on rings, (Ironically, I have my own thread about it in fact!)
Only issue i have with ported games is instead of compromising per system, the devs usually just compromise the game itself which is why ported titles dont have the same level of detail and overall quality like excusives titles, pc and consoles alike.
Its obviously easier to work with one system instead of 3 or 4 (if it gets ps4 support as well *sigh*).
Its obviously easier to work with one system instead of 3 or 4 (if it gets ps4 support as well *sigh*).
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Then I guess we should all communicate with the Devs in unity that we would prefer if they just compromise the graphics on the Consoles only for the sake of them running smoothly and not touch the PC game?
Absolutely agree Commander, but Im afraid its too late.
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Uh. No. Basically what happened to Forza Horizon 2. Technically they are same game, but the 360 port was done by Sumo and is by some considered a different game. While the Xbone title was created by Playground and Turn10.
Same title, different game, two systems, better quality than if was only done by Turn10.
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Although this is great for FD, I think for me, especially if the XBOX kiddies share the same instances as PC/MAC gamers I'll be going SOLO, or at the very least getting out of Global Chat.
It'll be a blooming nightmare, I'll not even understand half the stuff they'll be saying, especially when they're using their 'leetspeak' although that's probably appropriate for 1337.
If I hadn't have looked that up I'd have had no idea what that was supposed to mean.
"IBB7"
It'll be a blooming nightmare, I'll not even understand half the stuff they'll be saying, especially when they're using their 'leetspeak' although that's probably appropriate for 1337.
If I hadn't have looked that up I'd have had no idea what that was supposed to mean.
"IBB7"
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You realise they're not going to change the gfx on pc. We already have support for 4k. They're not suddenly going to drop a patch and force 720 30fps on everyone.
Some of the gfx have changed from beta but that's because it was a beta. We don't know the reasons but I doubt it was "dumbing down for consoles" coz I'm pretty sure that if this is "dumbed down" my rig running the game on ultra would net 5fps on an xbox.
The dumbed down gfx is the worst, most badly thought out argument against FD releasing on xbox.
thats cool, I'll be happy ust killing mac users..
Not happy that it turns out I funded a console game that will detract from my pc experiance, tastes like snakeoil.
Explain to me how this will detract?