News ANNOUNCING ELITE DANGEROUS: HORIZONS

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I bought the game on steam a few weeks back, but just put down on the website for the lifetime expansion. Will I be able to access the content when released?
 
Really looking forward to Landing on planets. Even if Atmospheric planets might be another year out, I'll still have a side of jollies rolling across the Moon! :)
 
The pricing is an insult to the people who have already purchased the game and I will not be investing. I have, similarly, cautioned my friends against getting the game, since I now see the true colors of Frontier's monetization strategies.

Sorry guys. But no. Full-game price, again, for one gameplay feature? $15, maybe. $50? Eat me.

Don't be upset, all games are like this, you buy the game for 50eur and then expansions later, expansions in this case have a lot of content, they don't just add some cosmetics to the game, they are whole new gameplay features, like buying a new game set in the same universe
 
Beta's typically have a stand-alone server and separate client files.
The last beta was for testing power play and it self-uninstalled once that went 'live' as v1.3. There isn't a current 'beta' to play with.

Ahh gotcha, the beta servers are just temporary things so nothing to log into now.

Cheers.
 
Really looking forward to Landing on planets. Even if Atmospheric planets might be another year out, I'll still have a side of jollies rolling across the Moon! :)

And fly over the Olympus mons on Mars

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Don't be upset, all games are like this, you buy the game for 50eur and then expansions later, expansions in this case have a lot of content, they don't just add some cosmetics to the game, they are whole new gameplay features, like buying a new game set in the same universe

I second that, as an ex WoW player I spent well over $150 on expansions. Glad I quit that a long time ago. At least there is no subscription fees.
 
It takes a LOT more work for Frontier to release planets with atmospheres. Thats it really. Planets with atmospheres, or even moons, will have things like weather... clouds, just think how hard it is to do decent clouds in realtime 3D. Atmospheres planets have more erosion, because of rain, they have rivers, lakes. They can also have native fauna, which would mean some kind of procedural creature systems, to generate sea, land and air animals. Ouch... Also you have plant life, so again, procedural grass, shrubs, bushes, trees etc.

And then you can have intelligent life, with different levels of habition, from a few small mining towns or scientific outpost, all the way out to planets with 15,000,000 peeps there, with mega cities and star ports.


I I think at that stage they need to have icons and text, rather than fully rendered 3d
its just too much too ask for.

some kind of sim city type layout
or perhaps scans and grids and graphs
it needs to have some kind of dynamic and playable level other than trying to do everything
i loved millennium 2.2 for this reason, it mixed game styles within the game

See here
http://youtu.be/GmcF0a6oiFU

so you have landing, then cut to this kind of set up
i agree with real time rover vehicle to the zone your into, or go through them scanning,
but once you settle on a place to do something. The dynamics have to change

it makes the most sense and keeps the immersion, and doesn't try to do something it cant
 
Great news. I have one question though.

- What will happen to my steam version if I will buy the Horizons via the ED shop? Will I get the needed updates via steam also or will I have to be forced to use the standalone? So far when I bought something in the store I had it available even though it was not bought via Steam. How will this work with season passes? Because if you will be selling the seasons on steam too, then they will be counted as DLC's and if I will not have keys for them, the data required for the packages will not download or it will and it will be handled differently? Thank you for an answer on this.
 
What he's talking about is that it's been explicitly stated by Micheal in this thread that if you don't own the game now, and you buy ED:H for £40 in December, that gets you the base game plus the Horizons expansion. Whereas if you do own the game now, and spent £40 on it at any point pre-December, if you then want Horizons it'll cost you an extra £30.

This bit has me confused. If you own the game + spend £40 on it you'll still have to spend another £30 for Horizons?

What's the £40 for, if not Horizons? Ship paintjobs? Not sure I understand.
 
I second that, as an ex WoW player I spent well over $150 on expansions. Glad I quit that a long time ago. At least there is no subscription fees.

That's the point, this game is online but without fees, you buy the expansions you want, no restrictions forced on players like in all other mmos, it well worths paying for the expansions or the lifetime pass
 
SC is not subscription based, there is a subs option but it is not required to play the game, sort of like how 'Rift' is ftp but you can get extra stuff by having a premium sub.
So SC is advertised to launch with FPS, landing, combat etc etc for $54 and no subs

OK, that sounds much more reasonable. Let's see if that's a one-off or whether there will be extra charges for future expansion --although with the money they've cashed simply by selling ships costing hundreds of dollars they should not have to (and let's also see whether it is possible to access these expensive ships reasonably easily with in-game credits).
 
So with everybody whining about pricing and the general perceived unfairness of the universe (both real and fictional) I may have missed this in all the noise....has there been any word on when the first Beta for Horizons will be out?
 
The pricing is an insult to the people who have already purchased the game and I will not be investing. I have, similarly, cautioned my friends against getting the game, since I now see the true colors of Frontier's monetization strategies.

Sorry guys. But no. Full-game price, again, for one gameplay feature? $15, maybe. $50? Eat me.

I get the feeling you're buying "Horizons" for £30, which will come with several updates for the price you pay, like we got four free updates this past 8 months. Or if you just buy the lifetime expansion and consider that you're getting a subscription free game with major annual updates for £130. The idea is that this game will last at least a decade, so consider it as buying the game for £10 and paying just £1 per month subscription and anything after the decade is free. LOL
 
Great news. I have one question though.

- What will happen to my steam version if I will buy the Horizons via the ED shop? Will I get the needed updates via steam also or will I have to be forced to use the standalone? So far when I bought something in the store I had it available even though it was not bought via Steam. How will this work with season passes? Because if you will be selling the seasons on steam too, then they will be counted as DLC's and if I will not have keys for them, the data required for the packages will not download or it will and it will be handled differently? Thank you for an answer on this.

I'm in the same boat, purchased originally on steam, but just got lifetime pass on store. I'm sure they will figure something out. Hopefully steam keys to unlock the live content and just download beta versions from website?
 
I really hope the "boundaries" in Horizons have an in-universe explanation.

I.e. if I fly down into the atmosphere and another pilot who hasn't paid can't follow me, I hope they get the message "Warning: no landing guidance module installed, destruction imminent" and not "Warning: expansion not purchased, if you would like to follow target..."

Similarly, I hope there's a good explanation in-game of why we can land on airless planets but not ELWs etc.
 
I really hope the "boundaries" in Horizons have an in-universe explanation.

I.e. if I fly down into the atmosphere and another pilot who hasn't paid can't follow me, I hope they get the message "Warning: no landing guidance module installed, destruction imminent" and not "Warning: expansion not purchased, if you would like to follow target..."

Similarly, I hope there's a good explanation in-game of why we can land on airless planets but not ELWs etc.

No, it will say "No planetary navigation module installed, please buy it on our website at the best pricing!"
 
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