News ANNOUNCING ELITE DANGEROUS: HORIZONS

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Star Lion

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We all should be celebrating, FD is covering all the bases. I was going to buy Eve Valkyre- not anymore with CQC, i was going to buy No Mans Sky- not anymore with Horizons, so i saved $120. This is going to be over time and more and more stuff the dream of all space games fans. Stop the stupid complaints about money and if bought this and that, the freaking game needs to be funded and its cheap, for Eve and WOW you pay $180 a year. I play Iracing and will never change that racing game for anything racing related and thats $120 a year plus you pay for cars and tracks in which i have invested like $300 apart from the suscription. Lets all celebrate, have a whisky and pray lord Jesus Braben.
 
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Gelbrock

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Premium Beta Backer struts into the forums like a peacock on heat... wearing his Polo shirt, complete with sparkling pin.... takes a sip from his Alliance coffee cup.... winces.... adds a slosh of Lavian Brandy... ooooh that's better. Glances at his Universal Cartographics Map that somehow the wife allowed him to place in the living room...

Sees the Landing update... smiles and nods approvingly.

Glances over a couple of the posts.... reaches for his wallet.... giggles foolishly, as he remembers he does not need to spend another penny on any updates, EVER.

Settles down for another morning of fun in space whilst the kids are at kindy and the wife is at work at the bank...
 

starjump

starjump
Imagine if we could go down seamlessly and do a manual landing. Stand up and walk around, look out the window and see the planet surface (hey FD, make sure to code in randomized wind/dust!). Go to the loading bay, see the rover, walk up to it, press button for "getting in" animation. Inside the rover hand animations put on seatbelt and pushing buttons to start the rover. Then we push another bound button to open the bay doors, door opening sounds and air escaping sounds (with FD sound crew this would sound fantastic!), back out the rover and your exploration starts. :)
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Walking around isnt possible so the latter wont happen (yet) of course, but i wonder "how manual" the final idea is. Its fun to go down on planets even if we dont do it seamlessly (space/planet transition), but landing would be fun to do manually. Look for a landing spot, dust kicking up around us and all that jazz. Then again, i dont know if we can go anywhere and everywhere on planets. Maybe its a section only? I think its safe to say that to begin with its prolly all fully automatic, and then when on the surface (sitting in our cockpit looking around) we teleport (push a button) outside the ship into our rover. I hope as much as possible is manual in the end though. :) Looking forward to it.
 

Star Lion

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Gelbrock said:
Premium Beta Backer struts into the forums like a peacock on heat... wearing his Polo shirt, complete with sparkling pin.... takes a sip from his Alliance coffee cup.... winces.... adds a slosh of Lavian Brandy... ooooh that's better. Glances at his Universal Cartographics Map that somehow the wife allowed him to place in the living room...

Sees the Landing update... smiles and nods approvingly.

Glances over a couple of the posts.... reaches for his wallet.... giggles foolishly, as he remembers he does not need to spend another penny on any updates, EVER.

Settles down for another morning of fun in space whilst the kids are at kindy and the wife is at work at the bank...
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Got to admit. Best <darn> comment ever!!!
 
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Jigsaw

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Tharrick said:
The idea is that of the £40 list price for Horizons, £10 is the base game and £30 is Horizons. Since you already own the base game, you're not charged that £10.
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Except that the regular Elite: Dangerous is £30 in the Frontier Store and not £10. Your explanation doesn't hold water, I'm afraid. You can sugarcoat it as much as you want, but that doesn't change that us "loyal fans" get the shaft by effectively having to pay twice as much as new customers.
 
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Krebsy

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Yup :).

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Cant wait, roll on the holidays :)

K.
 

Star Lion

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Jigsaw said:
Except that the regular Elite: Dangerous is £30 in the Frontier Store and not £10. Your explanation doesn't hold water, I'm afraid. You can sugarcoat it as much as you want, but that doesn't change that us "loyal fans" get the shaft by effectively having to pay twice as much as new customers.
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Then again you have enjoy the game twice as much and played it twice as much.
 
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stephen_usher

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LoneWanderer36 said:
Will Mac be later in the same way it was before, where purchasing the game once was good on both Mac and Windows? Or will the version I can preorder be exclusive to Windows forever, and if I want to play on my Mac I have to buy the game again when it becomes available?

Just want some clarification. Thanks!
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MacOS and Windows versions are covered by the same purchase. You buy one and you get the other as part of the purchase.

In this case the MacOS release of ED:H will arrive early in 2016, a little while after the Windows version release in late 2015.

It's only the XBox One version which is purchased separately.
 

JeffRyan

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Gelbrock said:
Premium Beta Backer struts into the forums like a peacock on heat... wearing his Polo shirt, complete with sparkling pin.... takes a sip from his Alliance coffee cup.... winces.... adds a slosh of Lavian Brandy... ooooh that's better. Glances at his Universal Cartographics Map that somehow the wife allowed him to place in the living room...

Sees the Landing update... smiles and nods approvingly.

Glances over a couple of the posts.... reaches for his wallet.... giggles foolishly, as he remembers he does not need to spend another penny on any updates, EVER.

Settles down for another morning of fun in space whilst the kids are at kindy and the wife is at work at the bank...
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Pfft... I'm an Alpha sitting on the veranda of my beach house in Sicily.
 

CaptainKremmen

CaptainKremmen
Gelbrock said:
Premium Beta Backer struts into the forums like a peacock on heat... wearing his Polo shirt, complete with sparkling pin.... takes a sip from his Alliance coffee cup.... winces.... adds a slosh of Lavian Brandy... ooooh that's better. Glances at his Universal Cartographics Map that somehow the wife allowed him to place in the living room...

Sees the Landing update... smiles and nods approvingly.

Glances over a couple of the posts.... reaches for his wallet.... giggles foolishly, as he remembers he does not need to spend another penny on any updates, EVER.

Settles down for another morning of fun in space whilst the kids are at kindy and the wife is at work at the bank...
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lol...

"Smug is the new black".
 

Mulbin

Mulbin
Hang on, so I've paid a total of £90 for ed and horizons... new players get ed and new horizons for £40? So it's only a paid expansion for existing customers and part of the stock game for new customers? That's a pretty aweful way to penalise loyal customers isn't it? Why are we having to pay 20-30 pounds for something you're giving away for free to your new customers?
 
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OxKing

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I was okay with the price and the discount on the basic horizon package
and i was okay with the planetary landings on rocks first.
But i'm really not okay with other planets not included in the package.

I thougt on release Horizons will be the season pass for all planetary landings and stuff for it.
Rocks first, and maybe at a last update in one year it would be Earth like worlds.
Because sure, they will take time to be developed. No big deal to wait until they are finished.
Next season would be first person stuff and walk around in stations, maybe together with new ones.

Now i read the clarifications on that and being disappointed a lot.
I think i will wait with buying anything from frontier till i get convinced it will be worth it.
I spend 260 Euro in the Game, Paintjobs and Merchandise and was advertising the game to others a lot.
All to made sure the development would continue to the point we get planetary landings.
But instead we got powerplay, which nobody asked for, CQC which also nobody asked for and a lot of artificially time consuming limitations instead of good ingame content.
We have a passenger ship, but no passengers. We get "variants" instead of the promised new ships only to get the count up to 30.
(Also at release i expected all ships to be in game until now, but they just so lame with them.)

Also there are so many Bugs still in the game (stutterings, warping mines, weird looking asteroid fields) and the developers working in the dark and dosn't come up with anything
other then wait until there is a game conference, we have an announcement there. "And no, we don't let you know what we are working and planing on."
This was so much better in the past until they came up with the canceled offline mode or even weeks before that. At least it felt as it was different back then and players being involved there.

To be honest, i don't like to play the game anymore, because it just doesn't mean the same to me anymore that let me overlook the endless grinding and the limitations in the past, because i had hope and faith in it.
This has somehow slowly died i think. Maybe i rather spend my money to no man sky instead. The last videos from the IGN feature month had really woken my serious interest in this game.

It's so sad. The day started so good with the planetary landings announcement and ended so bad with a feeling that we just got scammed somehow. :/
 

Dunk

Dunk
GENETiX said:
will we have to pay for all of those updates to get all the different planets or will it all be updated in horizons as time goes on?
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I think there is a lot of scaremongering going on in this thread. Rewinding to December 2014, the game was officially launched and we've had 8 months of free updates since then. I think it is safest to say that the same model will be followed again. They are doing bare rocky planets first because that is the base level. From there they can add more complex functionality.

And a word to those complaining about it being cheaper to buy it now, I do get what you mean, but think about it a bit longer. The more people who come in the door, the cheaper Frontier can make future expansions, because the development costs are then shared across more people. Also, you get to say hi to those new fellows in their Sidewinders from the cockpit of your Anaconda or Vulture. Not to mention that the more people playing the game, the more alive the universe becomes. And as others have said, a year old game is pretty much always cheaper to buy than a brand new one.

And regarding the SC pricing model, when I bump into someone in ED with a better ship than me, I know they played the game to get to that level of ship. Daddy didn't buy it for them for Christmas.
 

Space Fan

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Enough whingeing. Enough. I've whinged, and now they are doing something. Now the real haters are coming out...

Here's a deal: any *original backer* - who *genuinely* can't afford it. Sticky me, without whingeing, and I will consider, and pay it myself (at my liberty.)
 
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rundmcarlson

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So here's a question. Since I paid for the game already, and the expansion comes with the base game, can I gift the base game to a friend and keep the one with the expansion for myself? It only seems reasonable. My brother would love to play this game and if I am buying an expansion that comes with the base game, I should be able to give him the base game, no? Will we get steam keys? Is there one key for the expansion and one for the main game? It honestly feels like theft if I don't get a copy of the base game with my expansion since any new player would get the base game with their purchase of the expansion.
 

memecity

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Mulbin said:
Hang on, so I've paid a total of £90 for ed and horizons... new players get ed and new horizons for £40? So it's only a paid expansion for existing customers and part of the stock game for new customers? That's a pretty aweful way to penalise loyal customers isn't it? Why are we having to pay 20-30 pounds for something you're giving away for free to your new customers?
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With that in mind I can't in good conscience recommend this game to any more friends. They're going to fragment the community (not that it matters, since player interaction is so utterly tiny in the game as it is).

I had a lot of fun with the game initially and maybe I did get my money's worth, but I can't ignore how utterly boring and uninspiring the PowerPlay update is, that was supposed to add... something to do.

And now we're being expected to pay to add more stuff to do.

Why didn't you just go with a subscription model? I probably wouldn't have paid the full £40 in subscription fees if that was the model they chose; I wouldn't be surprised if that was a serious concern that lead to their AAA pricing for an unfinished game.

I'm just sincerely disappointed in this game. I'd rather wait a couple more years (as I should have) and play something resembling a complete game.
 
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