Anti-Aliasing in a Nutshell - Odyssey

Koben

Koben
DrinkyBird said:
I find this to be particularly noticeable in the turbolifts. To me it seems as though they're doing some work at half-res - this "fill effect" occurs in what seems like 2x2 pixel chunks.
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Never noticed that on the lifter before and will take a better look at it for sure!

Another spot that makes me wanna slap my monitor is the stand for placing the Power Regulator in the retractable drawer... there's a cable going around it which the surrounding pixels get squared out big time like a bad cut-paste Microsoft Paint edit... I'll post a picture of it here later on.
 

Ettanin

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Koben said:
I'm posting this hoping it helps Frontier to fix a potential root cause for what is being reported as "AntiAliasing not working as intended"

It seems that there's a "Microsoft Paint fill-like" effect being applied to several surfaces throughout Odyssey, which generates an indentation effect on surface edges.

This image was taken from a regular Habitat door at a Tourist settlement and it can be spotted in any/every one of them.

Bonus points if Frontier could also fix the invisible part of the door which is from inside the room and has been missing since day-1, so it doesn't have anything to do with any eventual culling applied by Frontier after Odyssey release.

Edit: fixed some typos...
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The first issue seems to be an FSR AI issue

The second issue is not a culling, but a modeling, issue.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
OP - are you using something like AMD FSR or whatever its called?

Because i see nothing even half as bad as that.

EDIT: Just noticed, you said you are not using FSR....

Strange.
 

Koben

Koben
Ok, now I think I got what you guys have been talking about... which still seems to be 2 different issues:

This is another location with the "Microsoft Paint fill-like effect" on the Power Center
AA_Power_Center.png


Also as pointed out, although less evident, inside the lifter:
AA_Lifter.png


Now, this is at the bar area and for this one, it seems real AA issue because I'm not using any AA attenuation (SMAA = 1.0):
AA_Bar.png
 

Koben

Koben
As far as I'm aware of, the AA approach being used by Frontier is the "old school" SMAA feature where you force the game fo render at a higher resolution and scale it down to your monitor's. In my case this is a bit heavy once my GPU would need to render the game at about 5K (SMAA = 1.25) to display it at 4K at my monitor's resolution.

So, yeah... Frontier is trying to implement AMD's approach which grants a somewhat limited outcome and also there's nVidia's DLSS with a way better result.

But what I'm trying to show here (big maybe once again) might be something entirelly different.
 

Koben

Koben
DrinkyBird said:
Just got home - here's a screenshot of what I see in the turbolift.

EDIT: The above happens if you set Ambient Occlusion to Low.
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Yep, what you just mentioned seems to be related to shadow softening getting pixalated by Ambient Occlusion... which can be even considered a 3rd issue
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
So, went to the same type of HAB like OP specified and don't see anything like this.

i looked at the door from different angles, just to see if i could trigger the same sort of jagged edges.

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Koben

Koben
Agony_Aunt said:
So, went to the same type of HAB like OP specified and don't see anything like this.

i looked at the door from different angles, just to see if i could trigger the same sort of jagged edges.
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This is even more interesting!! Please, tell me your graphic settings... SMAA?

The invisible door is there... 🤔
 
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Koben said:
This is even more interesting!! Please, tell me your graphic settings... SMAA?

The invisible door is there... 🤔
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High/Ultra, SMAA.

Oh yeah, the back panel on the door has its texture missing. Well spotted! I'd have never spotted that in a month of Sundays.

Does that happen when you look from the other side?
 

Darth Ender

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Koben said:
I think now I know why... in several places I notice the engine stretching textures to fit a higher resolution place holder... it is streching a 1080p texture size to fit a 4K small area hence creating the "Microsoft Paint fill-like" effect!!

Many, many thanks, mate!!
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using smaller assets to fit larger uses instead of creating new larger versions? seems like you're making a pretty big stretch there.

Now, i'm gonna go get my ladder to get up these stairs on my cutter.
 
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