Anyone else have problems with escaping animals since update/dlc?

berlioz

berlioz
I've downloaded the new patch and the new dlc but since installment my animals go crazy in escaping. No specific animal type though, monkeys, buffalo's, cheeta's. young and adult animals. They all escape and lot's of them. Game became unplayable now since i've lost so much money in a matter of minutes(since the start of the game i've lost 5 animals per minute...).

Habitats are ok.

Anyone else experiencing this problem and how can I solve this?
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
I hadn't noticed anything, but to be fair, I only played for about half an hour today.

Two things might have happened in my opinion.
1) The animal AI has been improved and they started to use their ability to jump and climb over obstacles. Maybe your walls weren't high enough to begin with and the animals just didn't use it to their advantage before the update. Or you have some climbable parts of walls left there by accident, which, again, they just didn't use before.
2) The update messed up the barriers and switched them to climbable

But those are just theories.
 

berlioz

berlioz
Chris Simon said:
I hadn't noticed anything, but to be fair, I only played for about half an hour today.

Two things might have happened in my opinion.
1) The animal AI has been improved and they started to use their ability to jump and climb over obstacles. Maybe your walls weren't high enough to begin with and the animals just didn't use it to their advantage before the update. Or you have some climbable parts of walls left there by accident, which, again, they just didn't use before.
2) The update messed up the barriers and switched them to climbable

But those are just theories.
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Thanks for your reply but this does not seem an issue. My walls for the buffalo's are more than 3 m high and everything is unclimable. They escape while being in the middle of their habitat.
 

Jaggid Edje

Jaggid Edje
No problems in my current franchise zoo, which is nothing but primates. Had the problem when 1.03 landed, in all of my existing zoos, but never experienced it in any new habitats I built after the update, just the pre-existing ones.

Biggest issue I had was with swimming animals, they'd swim through land and right out of their habitats....no joke. Flamingos and Hippos escaped like crazy from my big Flamingo-Hippo habitat.
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
berlioz said:
Thanks for your reply but this does not seem an issue. My walls for the buffalo's are more than 3 m high and everything is unclimable. They escape while being in the middle of their habitat.
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So do they physically escape? Or do you just get the "Animal escaped" alarm pop up and they remain in their habitat?
If it's the latter I suspect it's the habitat geography bug that's been with us since the beta. Basically the game "thinks" the animal has escaped if it's under or above the barrier boundary, even if it's in reality still inside the habitat.
 

Dr4gon

Dr4gon
Nothing has changed. My macaques are still falling through the ground or give false escape alerts. But they are macaques, so what can you expect. Monkeys do what monkeys do. :)
 

berlioz

berlioz
Chris Simon said:
So do they physically escape? Or do you just get the "Animal escaped" alarm pop up and they remain in their habitat?
If it's the latter I suspect it's the habitat geography bug that's been with us since the beta. Basically the game "thinks" the animal has escaped if it's under or above the barrier boundary, even if it's in reality still inside the habitat.
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Both, but mostly the last one. So there is nothing I can do about it? I have removed the animals that were excaping regulary, pity because they are young animals and I dont know what to do with them now.

Is there anything I can do when the animals do physically escape even though the barriers are oke?
 

berlioz

berlioz
Other then this I have not experienced any bugs at all and the game is running fine. This escape problem has been something the last week but things seem to be worse after the update today
 

Moosegun

Moosegun
Currently wrestling to get my zoo back on track, lost 2,500 of my 8,500 guests and about 200k loss per year. I run quite complex enclosures, which have very few barriers so I am used to dealing with escapes and trying to fix the issues.

Multiple escapes which appear to be caused by two things.
  1. Changes / Improvements to animal path finding meaning that they can now find new gaps to escape. I have a lot of barrier around dug out enclosures and rock built water gates, I am finding more animals are finding small gaps (babies are far worse). I think I have managed to fix all these issues
  2. Primates - these have been an issue for some time, again made worse by complex enclosures, I keep getting random brief notifications of escape for animals in different places in the enclosure, sometimes climbing, something sitting on the floor. Worst part is my ape enclosure is one of my busiest. So even a brief false report clear out 1000 guests
Going to see how it goes, might have to remodel habitat which will be annoying....

Good new is that the bug with primate social dropping to zero when climbing appear to be fixed. Also still getting loads of animals in boxes, but going to see if this calms down.

UPDATE- took drastic measures and removed all juveniles from my 5 species of primate and turn off breeding. Seems to have worked so far.
 
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marcnesiumHH

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Moosegun said:
  1. Primates - these have been an issue for some time, again made worse by complex enclosures, I keep getting random brief notifications of escape for animals in different places in the enclosure, sometimes climbing, something sitting on the floor. Worst part is my ape enclosure is one of my busiest. So even a brief false report clear out 1000 guests
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Has nothing to do with complex enclosures, unfortunately. I intentionally did this very non-complex habitat for chimps to test. still 'escaping' in the middle of the habitat.

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Moosegun

Moosegun
marcnesiumHH said:
Has nothing to do with complex enclosures, unfortunately. I intentionally did this very non-complex habitat for chimps to test. still 'escaping' in the middle of the habitat.

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For me that is actually a good thing, as it means it might not be my enclosures. One things I have noticed from testing is since removing my juveniles I have not had a single false escape. Would be good to get feedback from others on this, if it is mainly babies.
 

Eewrie

Eewrie
Ive had escaped message no actual escapes happened i literally smoothed the hill the feeder was on and the problem disappeared. Besides that no issues the patch has been a massive improvement.
 

Jaggid Edje

Jaggid Edje
I had juvenile Orangatangs escape just a little bit ago. But it was something that showed on the heat map as an escape point....so not bug related. I hadn't checked the habitat with a juvenile and he was able to squeeze into a very tiny ledge where I was using null barriers because...adults couldn't reach it. Silly mistake cost me 25,000 in refunds.
 

Criosdan

C
Well, kind of..
I get the information, my red Panda escaped. But they don't. They are in their exhibit sitting in a a box. The barriers are intact and the exhibit is complete. I don't know why this happens.
 

marcnesiumHH

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Moosegun said:
For me that is actually a good thing, as it means it might not be my enclosures. One things I have noticed from testing is since removing my juveniles I have not had a single false escape. Would be good to get feedback from others on this, if it is mainly babies.
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no, also applies for adult wildebeest and flamingos.
 
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