The Ongoing Hunt for new Thargoid Sites.
Yes there are possibly still more sites to be found, their are gaps in the TS site network in the Pleiades (which got me started on this thread in the 1st place). Although currently (6/20) we don't have any candidate systems, their is the remote chance of uncatalogued or unscanned RBs with thin ammonia atmospheres out there, or maybe the odd system we've overlooked!
Since I started this thread 13 more Thargoid sites have been found (none by me! lol), none of them were linked by the original batch of 217 sites.
If anyone is searching, lmk what systems & bodies you've already searched.
I was building a list of candidate systems, along with criteria for finding others too, using spansh.co.uk
Update note for ED 3.3, the paragraph below regarding searching by eye is now obsolete, use the surface probe scanners to check for any new sites, much better and quicker!
.
Old info left for reference.
Old search method (belatedly updated 15/9/18 for v3.0-3.2).
CANDIDATE SYSTEMS TO SEARCH :-
Candidate bodies - No candidates currently
As all good candidate systems have been exhausted (AFAWK!) within 150 LYs of Merope. The patrol was targetting weak candidate systems, so the ACW may not be obvious (e.g the ACW ammonia is a minor component of it's atmosphere, & so the world isn't labelled as ammonia atmosphere), all the ones listed in LCUs patrol list have been searched.
HIP 22460, but it is a permit locked system, & is a system that has been linked from another TS, so it certainly has a TS there, and although it is in Canonn's 3d map, it isn't linked to other TSs, even though it is linked to by other TSs, odd!
Record of new Thargoid Structures found
9/10/17 - 3 New TS sites found by tonio-gmnh!, 1 of them was in my candidate sites!
27/10/17 - And he's found a 4th one!
8/11/17 - And he's found 5 more!! Awesome!. Oh & 1 was a candidate system , other new candidate systems found by Tonio, & weren't in EDSM etc.
27/1/18 - Shockbot found TS 227 at Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-11 A 3a, was in beta 3 only at 1st & not in 2.4! congrats
31/5/18 - TS 228 was found by Aegis Eagle Eyes, see Factabulous's post.
6/9/18 - A new TS was found by Eagle Eyes way out in an Outz system. Currently not listed in Canonn's list or 3D map.
19/12/18 - TS 229 found by Thepirateorc! Congrats (It's the 1st TS system whose ACW is a RB with a thin ammonia atmosphere).
Number of TSs found to date: 230
Canonn 3D map of TSs
Canonn TS list
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SEARCH CRITERIA for finding new candidate systems for TS sites in the 'Merope bubble' (might not apply to TSs in the Outotz area) :-
Rocky Body (or rarely, HMC) landable body for the site ..................................... 1st 160/229 TSs checked, so far just 7 of those checked are HMC. (See my stats list in the spoiler at the bottom).
Have at least 1 Ammonia Containing World in the system .................................. 227/227 TSs. (See Canonn thread 10).
Max 0.42g for the site body ......................................................................... 227/227 TSs. most are below 0.3g (97.2% of 212 TSs) (See Canonn's spread sheet).
Be within 150 LYs of Merope* ...................................................................... 227/227 TSs, max 149.9 LYs. (See Canonn's spread sheet).
Temperature range for the site body 78-246k** .............................................. 227/227 TSs, most (97.3%) of the 1st 221 TSs are within 101-231k. (See Cannon's spread sheet for details).
Very probably on a moon ............................................................................ 220/227 TSs, 96.9%. (See TS 3d map).
Very probably the ACW is a GG-ABL*** or AW ............................................... 220/227 TSs, 96.9%. (See my stats list in spoiler & Klumpozyte's spread sheet. Just a small minority of TS systems have a WW, HMC or RB ACW, 7 all in, 4 listed here).
Very often the nearest group of (the above spec) bodies to the ACW ................ 102/1st 140 TSs checked. Although it seems if the ACW is orbiting a B star, then the TS site is usually nearest the A star.
*Since v3.2, the 1st TS was discovered outside of the Merope bubble, approx 1400 LYs from Merope! Seems to be a one off.
**The TS in the Outz system smashes this limit by 126k! Seems to be a one off.
***Thanks to tonio-gmnh & bagofholding for highlighting that. And thanks again to tonio-gmnh for listing the 4 ACW WWs.
Notes
Major news! 7/9/18
A new site has been found nearly 1400 LYs from Merope!!
Flagged by Eagle eyes at Outotz ST-I d9-6 2a (the system the Gnosis was stranded in), the moon is 126k over the previous highest temperature TS body found!
Is this a new bubble of Thargoid presence? [update] Nope. Are criteria for TSs different in this area?? [update] Unknown. Is this a one off? [update] Yep.
Looking at just TSs 140-160 (so far) & the 'not nearest groups', it seems where they have a choice, they'll choose a body which is nearer to the middle of their gravity range (possibly around about 0.25g) & a little over the 1/2 way mark of their temperature range (roughly 150-200k), please note these are approx figures taken from studying just 25 TS systems.
I'm thinking that the only real reason they rarely choose HMCs is because they are usually hotter!
Acronyms
GG Gas Giant, WG Water Giant, ABL Ammonia Based Life, AW Ammonia World, WW Water World, RB Rocky Body, HMC High Metal Content world, IB Icy Body, RIW Rocky Icy World, ACW Ammonia Containing World, TS Thargoid Structure (formally US Unknown Structure),
Thanks to Maligno for giving me this link, [now dead], https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...cHsMiEsawcCQP4EokUqNyLLzVwk/edit#gid=67861076, to Klumpozyte's spreadsheet, & thanks to Klumpozyte's for making the spreadsheet , which as well as giving candidate systems, showed that none of the original 217 TS sites are on icy bodies. (I've PMed Klumpozyte on 24/6/20 to see if he can fix it, but TBH I doubt we'll hear from him, as the last time he was seen in these forums was 11/17 ).
Thanks to tonio-gmnh for the additional candidate systems which I'd incorporated.
And thanks to LCU No Fool Like One for an interesting graph of TS distance distribution, post here. It seems the baulk of the sites are 15-25 LYs away from each other.
Thanks to Baton, Rixaeton, tonio-gmnh & LCU No Fool Like One for their help.
NEW SITES FOUND from candidate list
Pleiades Sector GW-W d1-54 2c - by tonio-gmnh
Synuefai RK-Y c17-3 A1a - by tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-11 A 3a - by Shockbot [this TS has only existed in beta v3/3 onwards, confirmed not in 2.4 at the exact co-ord's] (this system was a weak candidate, the landable is an HMC & the ACWs are a WW & RIW!) (radius 2281 km). This system was flagged as Thargoid in the Beta 3 gal map! Thanks to Manu Workl for that.
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Moons/planets in Systems already searched with surface probes (3.3 onwards only) :- - searched by
(Includes good & weak candidates, & systems previously searched by eye)
Moons/planets in Systems searched with surface probes in the Outotz area
All of these have been searched by Maolagin
Moons/planets in Systems already eyeball searched:- - radius - searched by
(green highlighted ones have been re-searched with surface probes & no TSs found)
Moons/planets in Outotz Systems already eyeball searched:- - radius - searched by
(green highlighted ones have been re-searched with surface probes & no TSs found)
Outotz LS-K D8-3 B5a (radius 738 km. 25 deg steps) - Assimilator1
Stats file for checking rocky body & nearest group of bodies to ammonia world theories/observations in TSs & ACW body types.
Yes there are possibly still more sites to be found, their are gaps in the TS site network in the Pleiades (which got me started on this thread in the 1st place). Although currently (6/20) we don't have any candidate systems, their is the remote chance of uncatalogued or unscanned RBs with thin ammonia atmospheres out there, or maybe the odd system we've overlooked!
Since I started this thread 13 more Thargoid sites have been found (none by me! lol), none of them were linked by the original batch of 217 sites.
If anyone is searching, lmk what systems & bodies you've already searched.
I was building a list of candidate systems, along with criteria for finding others too, using spansh.co.uk
Update note for ED 3.3, the paragraph below regarding searching by eye is now obsolete, use the surface probe scanners to check for any new sites, much better and quicker!
.Old info left for reference.
Old search method (belatedly updated 15/9/18 for v3.0-3.2).
Since ED v3.0 they recoloured the RBs, they look real nice now (& more realistic too I think), but it makes it harder to spot TSs. Additionally their seems to be some kind of graphics bug where the yellow/green colouring of the TS site is missing when it's nearish to the horizon, e.g at TS 229 at 250 km altitude & 20 degrees away it is a little black crater indistinguishable from the rest. At 250 km alt. still, but 15 degrees away, it is clearly visible as a yellow/green TS. This RB is 1377 km radius btw. This does slightly cut down our viewing range compared to 2.4 & earlier.
I choose a longitude, start from a pole, supercruise my way up/down in 25 deg (for a little overlap) latitude steps*, & drop out of SC at each 25 deg step to eyeball the area, up to the other pole.
Then change longitude by 25** deg & repeat, altitude at ~250 km. You only need to go to each pole once (as at each pole you would've seen out from it 15 deg in all directions), you need to go within 25 deg of the next pole though (which makes the last step an odd number. e.g starting at ~90, then 65, 40, 15, -10, -35, -60, & lastly -65, hmm not ideal!.....)
On the right hand side of your ship's HUD, the latitude is the top number & the longitude the bottom one.
Also suggest dropping to 100 km in the terminator zone (light/dark zone), as it can be very difficult to see TSs at 250 km in those mid light conditions.
*I haven't tested this in v3.x on a sub 800 km moon yet, so it's possible bigger steps could be taken on those.
**May need to refine this number for v3.x
An interesting point that Cmdr Zaratan mentioned regarding searching :-
3) If you think you see one, point towards it and enter supercruise. If it's a Thargoid site it will mostly disappear, as these sites are much bigger out of supercruise. If it's a normal crater, it won't change.
(& more realistic too I think), but it makes it harder to spot TSs. Additionally their seems to be some kind of graphics bug where the yellow/green colouring of the TS site is missing when it's nearish to the horizon, e.g at TS 229 at 250 km altitude & 20 degrees away it is a little black crater indistinguishable from the rest. At 250 km alt. still, but 15 degrees away, it is clearly visible as a yellow/green TS. This RB is 1377 km radius btw. This does slightly cut down our viewing range compared to 2.4 & earlier.I choose a longitude, start from a pole, supercruise my way up/down in 25 deg (for a little overlap) latitude steps*, & drop out of SC at each 25 deg step to eyeball the area, up to the other pole.
Then change longitude by 25** deg & repeat, altitude at ~250 km. You only need to go to each pole once (as at each pole you would've seen out from it 15 deg in all directions), you need to go within 25 deg of the next pole though (which makes the last step an odd number. e.g starting at ~90, then 65, 40, 15, -10, -35, -60, & lastly -65, hmm not ideal!.....)
On the right hand side of your ship's HUD, the latitude is the top number & the longitude the bottom one.
Also suggest dropping to 100 km in the terminator zone (light/dark zone), as it can be very difficult to see TSs at 250 km in those mid light conditions.
*I haven't tested this in v3.x on a sub 800 km moon yet, so it's possible bigger steps could be taken on those.
**May need to refine this number for v3.x
An interesting point that Cmdr Zaratan mentioned regarding searching :-
3) If you think you see one, point towards it and enter supercruise. If it's a Thargoid site it will mostly disappear, as these sites are much bigger out of supercruise. If it's a normal crater, it won't change.
CANDIDATE SYSTEMS TO SEARCH :-
Candidate bodies - No candidates currently
As all good candidate systems have been exhausted (AFAWK!) within 150 LYs of Merope. The patrol was targetting weak candidate systems, so the ACW may not be obvious (e.g the ACW ammonia is a minor component of it's atmosphere, & so the world isn't labelled as ammonia atmosphere), all the ones listed in LCUs patrol list have been searched.
HIP 22460, but it is a permit locked system, & is a system that has been linked from another TS, so it certainly has a TS there, and although it is in Canonn's 3d map, it isn't linked to other TSs, even though it is linked to by other TSs, odd!
Record of new Thargoid Structures found
9/10/17 - 3 New TS sites found by tonio-gmnh!
, 1 of them was in my candidate sites! 27/10/17 - And he's found a 4th one!
8/11/17 - And he's found 5 more!! Awesome!
. Oh & 1 was a candidate system , other new candidate systems found by Tonio, & weren't in EDSM etc.27/1/18 - Shockbot found TS 227 at Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-11 A 3a, was in beta 3 only at 1st & not in 2.4! congrats
31/5/18 - TS 228 was found by Aegis Eagle Eyes, see Factabulous's post.
6/9/18 - A new TS was found by Eagle Eyes way out in an Outz system. Currently not listed in Canonn's list or 3D map.
19/12/18 - TS 229 found by Thepirateorc! Congrats
(It's the 1st TS system whose ACW is a RB with a thin ammonia atmosphere).Number of TSs found to date: 230
Canonn 3D map of TSs
Canonn TS list
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SEARCH CRITERIA for finding new candidate systems for TS sites in the 'Merope bubble' (might not apply to TSs in the Outotz area) :-
Rocky Body (or rarely, HMC) landable body for the site ..................................... 1st 160/229 TSs checked, so far just 7 of those checked are HMC. (See my stats list in the spoiler at the bottom).
Have at least 1 Ammonia Containing World in the system .................................. 227/227 TSs. (See Canonn thread 10).
Max 0.42g for the site body ......................................................................... 227/227 TSs. most are below 0.3g (97.2% of 212 TSs) (See Canonn's spread sheet).
Be within 150 LYs of Merope* ...................................................................... 227/227 TSs, max 149.9 LYs. (See Canonn's spread sheet).
Temperature range for the site body 78-246k** .............................................. 227/227 TSs, most (97.3%) of the 1st 221 TSs are within 101-231k. (See Cannon's spread sheet for details).
Very probably on a moon ............................................................................ 220/227 TSs, 96.9%. (See TS 3d map).
Very probably the ACW is a GG-ABL*** or AW ............................................... 220/227 TSs, 96.9%. (See my stats list in spoiler & Klumpozyte's spread sheet. Just a small minority of TS systems have a WW, HMC or RB ACW, 7 all in, 4 listed here).
Very often the nearest group of (the above spec) bodies to the ACW ................ 102/1st 140 TSs checked. Although it seems if the ACW is orbiting a B star, then the TS site is usually nearest the A star.
*Since v3.2, the 1st TS was discovered outside of the Merope bubble, approx 1400 LYs from Merope! Seems to be a one off.
**The TS in the Outz system smashes this limit by 126k! Seems to be a one off
.***Thanks to tonio-gmnh & bagofholding for highlighting that. And thanks again to tonio-gmnh for listing the 4 ACW WWs.
Notes
Major news! 7/9/18
A new site has been found nearly 1400 LYs from Merope!!
Flagged by Eagle eyes at Outotz ST-I d9-6 2a (the system the Gnosis was stranded in), the moon is 126k over the previous highest temperature TS body found!
Is this a new bubble of Thargoid presence? [update] Nope. Are criteria for TSs different in this area?? [update] Unknown. Is this a one off? [update] Yep.
Looking at just TSs 140-160 (so far) & the 'not nearest groups', it seems where they have a choice, they'll choose a body which is nearer to the middle of their gravity range (possibly around about 0.25g) & a little over the 1/2 way mark of their temperature range (roughly 150-200k), please note these are approx figures taken from studying just 25 TS systems.
I'm thinking that the only real reason they rarely choose HMCs is because they are usually hotter!
Acronyms
GG Gas Giant, WG Water Giant, ABL Ammonia Based Life, AW Ammonia World, WW Water World, RB Rocky Body, HMC High Metal Content world, IB Icy Body, RIW Rocky Icy World, ACW Ammonia Containing World, TS Thargoid Structure (formally US Unknown Structure),
Thanks to Maligno for giving me this link, [now dead
], https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...cHsMiEsawcCQP4EokUqNyLLzVwk/edit#gid=67861076, to Klumpozyte's spreadsheet, & thanks to Klumpozyte's for making the spreadsheet , which as well as giving candidate systems, showed that none of the original 217 TS sites are on icy bodies. (I've PMed Klumpozyte on 24/6/20 to see if he can fix it, but TBH I doubt we'll hear from him, as the last time he was seen in these forums was 11/17 ).Thanks to tonio-gmnh for the additional candidate systems which I'd incorporated.
And thanks to LCU No Fool Like One for an interesting graph of TS distance distribution, post here. It seems the baulk of the sites are 15-25 LYs away from each other.
Thanks to Baton, Rixaeton, tonio-gmnh & LCU No Fool Like One for their help
.NEW SITES FOUND from candidate list
Pleiades Sector GW-W d1-54 2c - by tonio-gmnh
Synuefai RK-Y c17-3 A1a - by tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-11 A 3a - by Shockbot [this TS has only existed in beta v3/3 onwards, confirmed not in 2.4 at the exact co-ord's] (this system was a weak candidate, the landable is an HMC & the ACWs are a WW & RIW!) (radius 2281 km). This system was flagged as Thargoid in the Beta 3 gal map! Thanks to Manu Workl for that
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Moons/planets in Systems already searched with surface probes (3.3 onwards only) :- - searched by
(Includes good & weak candidates, & systems previously searched by eye)
Aries Dark Region GW-W d1-57 B 3c & d (Geo signals only) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region VZ-O b6-3 C1-3 (no surface signals) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region MS-T c3-13 ABC 3d-f & D3a (no signals at all!) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region MS-T c3-14 6a-d, 7a-da (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region AQ-Y d43 (no signals at all 4 RBs) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region HR-W d1-55 1a-e (none) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region OT-Q b5-0 107,94 A2a, A3a, 4, 4a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region LD-R b5-0 119,98 A1 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region KS-T c3-7 7b, 7c (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region NN-T c3-7 1a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Col 285 Sector EQ-X C1-10 1a (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector FB-X d1-88 (Geo only) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector TM-U b3-0 C2 (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector DL-X c1-13 9a (Geo), 9b (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector ZY-Y b1-4 A3 (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector BV-Y d26 1a-e (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
HIP 13043 (some geo signals. ACW is a Water Giant!) - Assim1
HIP 13638 3a & b, 5a-e, 6a-f (no signals at all!) - Assim1
HIP 14621 ABC 2b & c (none) - Assim1
HIP 15456 ABC 5e, 6a-b, 7a-d, 8a-b - tonio-gmnh
HIP 15633 4a, 5a, 5aa, 5c (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
HIP 15697 7a, C1, C2, C5 (none), C2a, C3, C4 (Geo) - Assim1
HIP 16107 4a (geo), 6a, 6b & 7a (none) - Assim1
HIP 16778 1a - LCU No Fool Like One
HIP 17497 A1a, A2a &b, A3a & b (geo), A3c-g, A4b , A5 b & c, A6a-d (none)
HIP 17643 2a (confirmed no TSs, only geo signals) - Assimilator1
HIP 18625 7a (no signals) - Assim1
HIP 18007 5e-g (no signals) - Assim1
HIP 18618 A 4a (none) - Assim1
HIP 19761 AB 2a (none) - Assim1
HIP 19685 A4 a-d (no signals at all 4) - Assim1
HIP 20151 AB 1a-f (1a geo, others none), AB 2 da (geo), AB 2a-d (none) - Assim1
HIP 20160 B 9a-e & B10 b-e (no signals) - Assim1
HIP 20197 A 7a (no signals, nor at 4a & 5a) - Assim1
HIP 21040 1a-c, 3a & b, (none) - Assim1
HIP 22012 A5a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
HIP 23077 A11 a-c (no TSs) - Assim1
HIP 23139 2a, 3a, 6c, d, e & f (none), 6a & b (geo only) - Assim1
Hyades Sector AQ-Y d72 5a, (some have geo signals) - Assim1
Hyades Sector DB-X c1-6 A 1a (none) - Assim1
Hyades Sector DL-Y d73 1a (none) - Assim1
Hyades Sector EB-X c1-17 C1, C2, C3, C4 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector CT-F b12-2 A4, A5, A6, A7 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector HH-V d2-18 A6a, C6, C4 & 5 (Biological signals only, bark mounds at A6a) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector JC-V d2-39 A3a (none) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector WO-R c4-6 B2a & B3a - (confirmed none) - Assimilator1
Mel 22 Sector OD-S c4-0 1b and 1ba - (confirmed no TSs, found bio & geo signals, bark mounds at both) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector RJ-Q c5-5 (bio only) - LCU no fool like one
Mel 22 Sector NI-T d3-12 (geo only) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector UO-R c4-0 7a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector LX-U c2-6 1d & e (Biological signals only at both moons) - Assim1
Pleiades sector SE-P B6-0 D5 & 6 (none) (Thargoid barnacles only at C3 & 4, D1,2 & 3) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector IR-W d1-75 B 8a-c (no surface signals) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector EW-W c1-9 2a (bio signals only) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector GW-W d1-54 3a & 2a (geo signals only) no SS at 2b or d (2c is a TS site) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector GW-W c1-15 8 & 12a (human),12b,13c-e,14b-d,15a,b,ea,16b-e (none),16a,ea,17a (geo) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector IH-V c2-5 1a & 1b (2 human/none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector LC-V c2-4 8a (none), 8ca (29 geo's!) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector EL-Y D28 2a (none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-9 2a (none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector HM-V c2-8 1a & 1b (none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector FR-V c2-7 A4-A7 (none) A1-A3 (Thargoid barnacles, new site) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector ZK-W b2-1 A3, B4-6 (none) (B1 & 2 Thargoid barnacles, new site) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector BW-U b3-1 A3, A3a, A4a, B5 (none) - Assim1
Struve's Lost Sector MS-T c3-5 - (none) - Assim1
Struve's Lost Sector GW-W d1-64 2a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Struve's Lost Sector CL-Y d38 4a-f, 5a (Bark mounds here, no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Synuefai TF-Y c17-6 A7b-f (some geo signals) - Assim1
Synuefai PZ-Z c16-6 A3 (no TSs) - Assim1
Synuefai VZ-M d8-50 116,38 B5a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Synuefe DT-O d7-25 3a-c (no TSs) - Assim1
Synuefe GX-B c16-8 (none) - Assim1
Taurus Dark Region CB-X c1-13 8a-ba (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Taurus Dark Region DL-Y d47 3a (bio only, 1 is a bark mound) - Assim1
Taurus Dark Region DL-Y d36 AB1a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Taurus Dark Region DL-Y c7 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Taurus Dark Region IR-W d1-40 1a, f,g & h, & 2a (Geo only on 2a) - Assim1
Taurus Dark Region KI-S b4-0 A5a, B1a, B3a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region VZ-O b6-3 C1-3 (no surface signals) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region MS-T c3-13 ABC 3d-f & D3a (no signals at all!) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region MS-T c3-14 6a-d, 7a-da (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region AQ-Y d43 (no signals at all 4 RBs) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region HR-W d1-55 1a-e (none) - Assim1
Aries Dark Region OT-Q b5-0 107,94 A2a, A3a, 4, 4a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region LD-R b5-0 119,98 A1 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region KS-T c3-7 7b, 7c (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region NN-T c3-7 1a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Col 285 Sector EQ-X C1-10 1a (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector FB-X d1-88 (Geo only) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector TM-U b3-0 C2 (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector DL-X c1-13 9a (Geo), 9b (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector ZY-Y b1-4 A3 (none) - Assim1
Col 285 Sector BV-Y d26 1a-e (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
HIP 13043 (some geo signals. ACW is a Water Giant!) - Assim1
HIP 13638 3a & b, 5a-e, 6a-f (no signals at all!) - Assim1
HIP 14621 ABC 2b & c (none) - Assim1
HIP 15456 ABC 5e, 6a-b, 7a-d, 8a-b - tonio-gmnh
HIP 15633 4a, 5a, 5aa, 5c (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
HIP 15697 7a, C1, C2, C5 (none), C2a, C3, C4 (Geo) - Assim1
HIP 16107 4a (geo), 6a, 6b & 7a (none) - Assim1
HIP 16778 1a - LCU No Fool Like One
HIP 17497 A1a, A2a &b, A3a & b (geo), A3c-g, A4b , A5 b & c, A6a-d (none)
HIP 17643 2a (confirmed no TSs, only geo signals) - Assimilator1
HIP 18625 7a (no signals) - Assim1
HIP 18007 5e-g (no signals) - Assim1
HIP 18618 A 4a (none) - Assim1
HIP 19761 AB 2a (none) - Assim1
HIP 19685 A4 a-d (no signals at all 4) - Assim1
HIP 20151 AB 1a-f (1a geo, others none), AB 2 da (geo), AB 2a-d (none) - Assim1
HIP 20160 B 9a-e & B10 b-e (no signals) - Assim1
HIP 20197 A 7a (no signals, nor at 4a & 5a) - Assim1
HIP 21040 1a-c, 3a & b, (none) - Assim1
HIP 22012 A5a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
HIP 23077 A11 a-c (no TSs) - Assim1
HIP 23139 2a, 3a, 6c, d, e & f (none), 6a & b (geo only) - Assim1
Hyades Sector AQ-Y d72 5a, (some have geo signals) - Assim1
Hyades Sector DB-X c1-6 A 1a (none) - Assim1
Hyades Sector DL-Y d73 1a (none) - Assim1
Hyades Sector EB-X c1-17 C1, C2, C3, C4 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector CT-F b12-2 A4, A5, A6, A7 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector HH-V d2-18 A6a, C6, C4 & 5 (Biological signals only, bark mounds at A6a) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector JC-V d2-39 A3a (none) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector WO-R c4-6 B2a & B3a - (confirmed none) - Assimilator1
Mel 22 Sector OD-S c4-0 1b and 1ba - (confirmed no TSs, found bio & geo signals, bark mounds at both) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector RJ-Q c5-5 (bio only) - LCU no fool like one
Mel 22 Sector NI-T d3-12 (geo only) - Assim1
Mel 22 Sector UO-R c4-0 7a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector LX-U c2-6 1d & e (Biological signals only at both moons) - Assim1
Pleiades sector SE-P B6-0 D5 & 6 (none) (Thargoid barnacles only at C3 & 4, D1,2 & 3) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector IR-W d1-75 B 8a-c (no surface signals) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector EW-W c1-9 2a (bio signals only) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector GW-W d1-54 3a & 2a (geo signals only) no SS at 2b or d (2c is a TS site) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector GW-W c1-15 8 & 12a (human),12b,13c-e,14b-d,15a,b,ea,16b-e (none),16a,ea,17a (geo) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector IH-V c2-5 1a & 1b (2 human/none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector LC-V c2-4 8a (none), 8ca (29 geo's!) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector EL-Y D28 2a (none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-9 2a (none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector HM-V c2-8 1a & 1b (none) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector FR-V c2-7 A4-A7 (none) A1-A3 (Thargoid barnacles, new site) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector ZK-W b2-1 A3, B4-6 (none) (B1 & 2 Thargoid barnacles, new site) - Assim1
Pleiades Sector BW-U b3-1 A3, A3a, A4a, B5 (none) - Assim1
Struve's Lost Sector MS-T c3-5 - (none) - Assim1
Struve's Lost Sector GW-W d1-64 2a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Struve's Lost Sector CL-Y d38 4a-f, 5a (Bark mounds here, no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Synuefai TF-Y c17-6 A7b-f (some geo signals) - Assim1
Synuefai PZ-Z c16-6 A3 (no TSs) - Assim1
Synuefai VZ-M d8-50 116,38 B5a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Synuefe DT-O d7-25 3a-c (no TSs) - Assim1
Synuefe GX-B c16-8 (none) - Assim1
Taurus Dark Region CB-X c1-13 8a-ba (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Taurus Dark Region DL-Y d47 3a (bio only, 1 is a bark mound) - Assim1
Taurus Dark Region DL-Y d36 AB1a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Taurus Dark Region DL-Y c7 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Taurus Dark Region IR-W d1-40 1a, f,g & h, & 2a (Geo only on 2a) - Assim1
Taurus Dark Region KI-S b4-0 A5a, B1a, B3a (no TS) - tonio-gmnh
Moons/planets in Systems searched with surface probes in the Outotz area
All of these have been searched by Maolagin
Outotz YK-V c16-0
Outotz SP-M c21-0
Outotz LS-K d8-3 (has crystal shards on B5a, which was the TS candidate body)
Outotz FX-R c18-0
Outotz WZ-G d10-7
Outotz WZ-G d10-7 (was flagged as a strong candidate, nothing but geysers)
Outotz KT-D b40-0
Outotz NI-R c18-2
Outotz HH-T c17-2 (also flagged as a strong candidate)
Outotz GC-H b38-0
Outotz OD-R c18-1
Outotz HY-D b40-0
Outotz XG-H b38-0
Outotz VZ-N c20-1
Outotz XP-N c20-0 (our final strong candidate system)
Outotz HN-F b39-0
Outotz CD-F b39-0
Outotz YP-N c20-0 (Ammonia world)
Outotz AL-N c20-0 (nothing Thargoid, but very profitable to scan, then go farm massive amounts of Technitium from shards on 12 d a)
Outotz IC-L d8-3
Outotz IC-L d8-4
Outotz LI-Y c15-0
Outotz AH-K c22-0
Outotz SP-M c21-0
Outotz LS-K d8-3 (has crystal shards on B5a, which was the TS candidate body)
Outotz FX-R c18-0
Outotz WZ-G d10-7
Outotz WZ-G d10-7 (was flagged as a strong candidate, nothing but geysers)
Outotz KT-D b40-0
Outotz NI-R c18-2
Outotz HH-T c17-2 (also flagged as a strong candidate)
Outotz GC-H b38-0
Outotz OD-R c18-1
Outotz HY-D b40-0
Outotz XG-H b38-0
Outotz VZ-N c20-1
Outotz XP-N c20-0 (our final strong candidate system)
Outotz HN-F b39-0
Outotz CD-F b39-0
Outotz YP-N c20-0 (Ammonia world)
Outotz AL-N c20-0 (nothing Thargoid, but very profitable to scan, then go farm massive amounts of Technitium from shards on 12 d a)
Outotz IC-L d8-3
Outotz IC-L d8-4
Outotz LI-Y c15-0
Outotz AH-K c22-0
Moons/planets in Systems already eyeball searched:- - radius - searched by
(green highlighted ones have been re-searched with surface probes & no TSs found)
Pleiades Sector EL-Y d28 2a (radius 1742 km. ACW is an AW) - Assimilator1
Pleiades Sector LC-V c2-4 8a & ca (radius 1297 & 628 km. ACWs are a WW & 3 RBs) - Assimilator1
Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-9 AB 2a (ACW is an AW) - tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector IH-V c2-5 1a & 1b (ACW is a GG. This system has 2 stations) - tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector GW-W d1-54 3a (radius 480 km. ACW is a GG) (TS found later at 2c!) - Assimilator1
Hyades Sector DL-Y d73 1a (radius 2157 km, unsurprisingly this one took ages! 3 1/2hrs! ACW is a WW) (20 deg lat steps & 30 long) - Assimilator1
Synuefai PZ-Z c16-6 A3 (none) - Assim1
HIP 23139 3a (radius 486 km. ACW is a WW) - Assimilator1
HIP 17643 2a (radius 540 km. ACW is a WW) - Assimilator1
HIP 14621 ABC 2b & c (radius 385 & 491 km) (UAs were appearing in this system. ACW is a GG) - Assimilator1
HIP 16107 4a, 6b & 7a (radius 650, 1931 & 2428 km) - Assimilator1 & Moribus (joint search on 6b & 7a - 20 deg steps).
HIP 19761 AB 2a (radius 586 km. ACW is a GG) - Assimilator1 (35, then 30 deg lat, 35 long steps)
HIP 16107 4a, 6a & b, 7a (ACW is a WW) - Tonio-gmnh
Col 285 Sector EQ-X C1-10 1a (radius 1698 km. ACW is an HMC) (30 degree lat & long steps) - Assimilator1
Col 285 Sector TM-U b3-0 C2 (radius 1925 km, HMC planet) (ACW is an HMC) - Tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region HR-W d1-55 1a-e (ACW is a GG) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector OD-S c4-0 (1b and 1ba. ACW is a GG) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector HH-V d2-18 A 6a (radius 1533 km. ACW is a AW) - Assimilator1 (30 deg lat & long steps, terminator searched at 100 km)
Mel 22 Sector WO-R c4-6 B2a & B3a - Tonio-gmnh, B1 by Assimilator1 (25 lat/long steps)
Pleiades Sector LC-V c2-4 8a & ca (radius 1297 & 628 km. ACWs are a WW & 3 RBs) - Assimilator1
Pleiades Sector DG-X c1-9 AB 2a (ACW is an AW) - tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector IH-V c2-5 1a & 1b (ACW is a GG. This system has 2 stations) - tonio-gmnh
Pleiades Sector GW-W d1-54 3a (radius 480 km. ACW is a GG) (TS found later at 2c!) - Assimilator1
Hyades Sector DL-Y d73 1a (radius 2157 km, unsurprisingly this one took ages! 3 1/2hrs! ACW is a WW) (20 deg lat steps & 30 long) - Assimilator1
Synuefai PZ-Z c16-6 A3 (none) - Assim1
HIP 23139 3a (radius 486 km. ACW is a WW) - Assimilator1
HIP 17643 2a (radius 540 km. ACW is a WW) - Assimilator1
HIP 14621 ABC 2b & c (radius 385 & 491 km) (UAs were appearing in this system. ACW is a GG) - Assimilator1
HIP 16107 4a, 6b & 7a (radius 650, 1931 & 2428 km) - Assimilator1 & Moribus (joint search on 6b & 7a - 20 deg steps).
HIP 19761 AB 2a (radius 586 km. ACW is a GG) - Assimilator1 (35, then 30 deg lat, 35 long steps)
HIP 16107 4a, 6a & b, 7a (ACW is a WW) - Tonio-gmnh
Col 285 Sector EQ-X C1-10 1a (radius 1698 km. ACW is an HMC) (30 degree lat & long steps) - Assimilator1
Col 285 Sector TM-U b3-0 C2 (radius 1925 km, HMC planet) (ACW is an HMC) - Tonio-gmnh
Aries Dark Region HR-W d1-55 1a-e (ACW is a GG) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector OD-S c4-0 (1b and 1ba. ACW is a GG) - tonio-gmnh
Mel 22 Sector HH-V d2-18 A 6a (radius 1533 km. ACW is a AW) - Assimilator1 (30 deg lat & long steps, terminator searched at 100 km)
Mel 22 Sector WO-R c4-6 B2a & B3a - Tonio-gmnh, B1 by Assimilator1 (25 lat/long steps)
Moons/planets in Outotz Systems already eyeball searched:- - radius - searched by
(green highlighted ones have been re-searched with surface probes & no TSs found)
Outotz LS-K D8-3 B5a (radius 738 km. 25 deg steps) - Assimilator1
Stats file for checking rocky body & nearest group of bodies to ammonia world theories/observations in TSs & ACW body types.
TS...RB? ..... Nearest candidate group to ACW?
001 Yes Yes
002 Yes No (but not far off!)
003 Yes Yes
004 Yes Yes
005 yes Yes
006 yes Yes
007 yes yes
008 yes yes
009 yes yes
010 yes yes
011 yes yes
012 yes no
013 yes yes
014 yes yes
015 yes yes
016 yes yes
017 yes yes
018 yes yes
019 yes yes
020 yes no
021 yes yes
022 yes yes
023 yes yes
024 yes yes
025 yes yes
026 yes yes
027 yes yes
028 yes yes
029 yes yes
030 yes no
031 yes yes
032 yes yes
033 yes yes
034 yes yes
035 yes yes
036 No! (HMC) yes
037 Yes yes
038 Yes yes
039 Yes no (but nearest to A star, & has a B star)
040 Yes no
041 Yes yes
042 Yes no
043 yes yes
044 yes yes
045 yes yes
046 yes yes
047 yes yes
048 yes no
049 yes yes
050 yes no
051 yes yes
052 yes yes
053 yes yes
054 yes yes
055 yes yes
056 yes yes
057 yes yes
058 yes yes
059 yes yes
060 yes yes
061 yes no
062 yes yes
063 yes yes
064 yes yes
065 yes yes
066 yes yes
067 yes yes
068 yes yes
069 yes yes
070 yes no
071 yes unknown (unable to verify with EDSM which body has Ammonia)
072 yes yes
073 yes yes
074 yes yes
075 yes no
076 yes yes
077 yes yes
078 yes yes
079 yes yes
080 yes yes
081 yes yes
082 yes yes
083 yes no (but nearest to A star, & has a B star)
084 yes yes
085 yes yes
086 yes yes
087 yes yes
088 yes no (but nearest to A star, & has a B star)
089 yes yes
090 yes yes
091 yes yes
092 yes yes
093 yes no
094 yes yes
095 no (HMC) yes
096 yes yes
097 yes no
098 yes yes
099 yes yes
100 yes yes
101 yes yes
102 yes yes
103 yes yes
104 yes yes
105 yes yes
106 yes yes
107 yes yes
108 yes no
109 yes yes
110 yes no
111 no (HMC) yes
112 yes yes
113 yes yes
114 yes yes
115 yes no
116 yes yes
117 yes yes
118 yes yes
119 yes yes
120 yes yes
121 yes yes
122 yes yes
123 yes yes
124 yes no (maybe they prefer 11e's higher gravity over the 12x moons?)
125 yes yes
126 yes yes
127 yes yes
128 yes yes
129 yes yes
130 yes yes
131 yes, yes
132 no (HMC), yes
133 yes, yes
134 yes, yes
135 yes, no (nearest A star. ACW orbits B&C stars)
136 yes, yes
137 yes, yes
138 yes, no (nearest to A star. Primary ACW orbits B star)
139 yes, no (11b has higher gravity than the nearer 12x moons, although it's temp is 5k lower, it seems they prefer it's .24g)
140 yes, yes
141 yes, yes
142 yes, no (14a has a higher gravity (.23g) than the similarly distanced 12x moons (.07 & .11g)
143 yes, yes
144 yes, yes
145 yes, yes
146 yes, yes
147 yes, yes
148 yes, yes
149 no (HMC), yes
150 yes, yes
151 no (HMC), yes
152 yes, yes
153 yes, yes
154 yes, yes
155 yes, yes
156 no (HMC), yes
157 yes, no (5a has slightly higher gravity (.25g) & significantly higher temperature (185k) over the other 7 nearer 6x RBs)
158 yes, no (it seems they've chosen a further moon here with just a 4k temp advantage!)
159 yes, no (looks like they chose the warmest again, & not the nearest to the ACW)
160 yes, yes
Notes
Of the 7 TSs on HMCs I've revealed so far, 4 of them have no landable RBs.
The 3 that do:-
TS 111 has it by the B star & is ~14k Ls away from the arrival point, the HMC is A3.
TS 149 RBs are also further away from the ACW than the HMC.
TS 151's RB (B2a), going by orbital position (& not Ls, as EDSM has some odd data there!), means it doesn't get as close to the ACW (A6) as the TS planet (B3) does.
Seems the Thargoids are quite happy to use an HMC over a RB, if the HMC is nearer to the ACW.
**
Checking ACW types - Gas Giant (with Ammonia Based Life), Ammonia World, Rocky Body, Water World, Water Giant , High Metal Content world, Icy Body, Rocky Icy World
TS ... Type
001 GG x2, RB x3,
002 GG x2
003 GG
004 AW, RB,
005 GG, AW,
006 GG
007 GG x2
008 GG
009 AW
010 GG x2
011 AW
012 GG
013 GG
014 GG
015 GG
016 GG
017 GG
018 GG
019 GG x2
020 GG
021 GG, AW, RB x3, WW, HMC, (lots here!)
022 GG
023 AW
024 GG x2
025 GG
026 GG
027 GG
028 GG
029 GG
030 GG (from here on for non GG & AW systems, I've checked detailed information ('i') in EDSM. *And these systems)
031 GG, HMC,*
032 GG, WW,
033 GG, RB x2, IB*
034 AW, HMC, IB*
035 AW
036 GG, RB, IB*
037 AW
038 AW, RB, IB x2*
039 GG
040 AW, WW,
041 GG, IB
042 GG
043 GG, RB x2,
044 GG x2
045 GG, HMC
046 GG
047 GG, AW, IB x2*
048 GG, WW (this system has 75 bodies!!)
049 GG*
050 GG, HMC, IB
051 GG, HMC,
052 AW, RB x2, (this system has a station)
053 GG x2, *
054 AW, HMC x2, WW, *
055 AW,
056 AW,
057 GG, RB,
058 GG,
059 WW, RB
060 AW, RB, RIW, WG, (1st RIW!)
061 GG, IB x2,
062 GG, IB
063 GG, IB (weird one this one, it's a landable IB with Ammonia magma! Other IBs may have Ammonia)
064 GG, RB, IB (this system has a station)
065 GG,
066 GG,
067 GG x2, WW,
068 GG
069 GG,
070 GG, HMC,
071 HMC
072 GG, IB
073 GG,
074 GG, *
075 AW
076 GG, IB,
077 GG, RB,
078 GG,
079 AW, RB,
080 GG
081 GG
082 GG, IB, RB x2,
083 GG
084 GG
085 GG x2
086 GG
087 GG, HMC, IB x2,
088 GG, HMC, IB x2,
089 GG, IB,
090 GG
091 GG x2,
092 WW, RB
093 RB, HMC
094 GG,
095 AW, IB
096 GG
097 GG, RB, HMC, IB
098 GG
099 GG, IB
100 GG
101 GG
102 GG
103 GG, RB
104 GG, HMC
105 GG, HMC x3
106 GG
107 GG, RB, HMC
108 GG, HMC
109 GG
110 AW
111 AW, HMC
112 AW, RIW
113 GG
114 GG
115 RB, WWx2, IB,
116 GG
117 GG x2
118 GG, IB
119 AW
120 GG, IB
121 GG, IB
122 GG, RB x2
123 GG
124 GG
125 GG
126 AW
127 GG
128 GG
129 GG
130 GG
131 GG
132 AW
133 GG
134 GG
135 GG
136 GG
137 GG, WW
138 GG
139 GG, RB
140 AW, RB
141 GG
142 GG, IB
143 GG
144 GG x2
145 GG, IB, HMC x2
146 GG
147 AW
148 WW, (HMC)
149 GG, RB
150 GG, IB
151 AW
152 GG
153 AW x2!
154 GG
155 GG
156 GG, HMC
157 GG
158 GG
159 GG
160 GG, RB, IB
Argh! I checked out every single one above manually, only to (re)discover I already had the information in a link to Klumpozyte's spread sheet! Which goes up to TS 217 at least.
Anyway, from TS 161-217 the primary ACWs are all GG ABLs or AWs.
218 GG
219 GG
220 GG, IB
221 AW
222 GG
223 GG, WW
224 GG, RB
225 GG, RB
226 AW
227 WW, RIW
228 GG ABL x2
229 RB (thin ammonia atmosphere!), HMC
229 AW
spansh search position, p1 to check next
001 Yes Yes
002 Yes No (but not far off!)
003 Yes Yes
004 Yes Yes
005 yes Yes
006 yes Yes
007 yes yes
008 yes yes
009 yes yes
010 yes yes
011 yes yes
012 yes no
013 yes yes
014 yes yes
015 yes yes
016 yes yes
017 yes yes
018 yes yes
019 yes yes
020 yes no
021 yes yes
022 yes yes
023 yes yes
024 yes yes
025 yes yes
026 yes yes
027 yes yes
028 yes yes
029 yes yes
030 yes no
031 yes yes
032 yes yes
033 yes yes
034 yes yes
035 yes yes
036 No! (HMC) yes
037 Yes yes
038 Yes yes
039 Yes no (but nearest to A star, & has a B star)
040 Yes no
041 Yes yes
042 Yes no
043 yes yes
044 yes yes
045 yes yes
046 yes yes
047 yes yes
048 yes no
049 yes yes
050 yes no
051 yes yes
052 yes yes
053 yes yes
054 yes yes
055 yes yes
056 yes yes
057 yes yes
058 yes yes
059 yes yes
060 yes yes
061 yes no
062 yes yes
063 yes yes
064 yes yes
065 yes yes
066 yes yes
067 yes yes
068 yes yes
069 yes yes
070 yes no
071 yes unknown (unable to verify with EDSM which body has Ammonia)
072 yes yes
073 yes yes
074 yes yes
075 yes no
076 yes yes
077 yes yes
078 yes yes
079 yes yes
080 yes yes
081 yes yes
082 yes yes
083 yes no (but nearest to A star, & has a B star)
084 yes yes
085 yes yes
086 yes yes
087 yes yes
088 yes no (but nearest to A star, & has a B star)
089 yes yes
090 yes yes
091 yes yes
092 yes yes
093 yes no
094 yes yes
095 no (HMC) yes
096 yes yes
097 yes no
098 yes yes
099 yes yes
100 yes yes
101 yes yes
102 yes yes
103 yes yes
104 yes yes
105 yes yes
106 yes yes
107 yes yes
108 yes no
109 yes yes
110 yes no
111 no (HMC) yes
112 yes yes
113 yes yes
114 yes yes
115 yes no
116 yes yes
117 yes yes
118 yes yes
119 yes yes
120 yes yes
121 yes yes
122 yes yes
123 yes yes
124 yes no (maybe they prefer 11e's higher gravity over the 12x moons?)
125 yes yes
126 yes yes
127 yes yes
128 yes yes
129 yes yes
130 yes yes
131 yes, yes
132 no (HMC), yes
133 yes, yes
134 yes, yes
135 yes, no (nearest A star. ACW orbits B&C stars)
136 yes, yes
137 yes, yes
138 yes, no (nearest to A star. Primary ACW orbits B star)
139 yes, no (11b has higher gravity than the nearer 12x moons, although it's temp is 5k lower, it seems they prefer it's .24g)
140 yes, yes
141 yes, yes
142 yes, no (14a has a higher gravity (.23g) than the similarly distanced 12x moons (.07 & .11g)
143 yes, yes
144 yes, yes
145 yes, yes
146 yes, yes
147 yes, yes
148 yes, yes
149 no (HMC), yes
150 yes, yes
151 no (HMC), yes
152 yes, yes
153 yes, yes
154 yes, yes
155 yes, yes
156 no (HMC), yes
157 yes, no (5a has slightly higher gravity (.25g) & significantly higher temperature (185k) over the other 7 nearer 6x RBs)
158 yes, no (it seems they've chosen a further moon here with just a 4k temp advantage!)
159 yes, no (looks like they chose the warmest again, & not the nearest to the ACW)
160 yes, yes
Notes
Of the 7 TSs on HMCs I've revealed so far, 4 of them have no landable RBs.
The 3 that do:-
TS 111 has it by the B star & is ~14k Ls away from the arrival point, the HMC is A3.
TS 149 RBs are also further away from the ACW than the HMC.
TS 151's RB (B2a), going by orbital position (& not Ls, as EDSM has some odd data there!), means it doesn't get as close to the ACW (A6) as the TS planet (B3) does.
Seems the Thargoids are quite happy to use an HMC over a RB, if the HMC is nearer to the ACW.
**
Checking ACW types - Gas Giant (with Ammonia Based Life), Ammonia World, Rocky Body, Water World, Water Giant , High Metal Content world, Icy Body, Rocky Icy World
TS ... Type
001 GG x2, RB x3,
002 GG x2
003 GG
004 AW, RB,
005 GG, AW,
006 GG
007 GG x2
008 GG
009 AW
010 GG x2
011 AW
012 GG
013 GG
014 GG
015 GG
016 GG
017 GG
018 GG
019 GG x2
020 GG
021 GG, AW, RB x3, WW, HMC, (lots here!)
022 GG
023 AW
024 GG x2
025 GG
026 GG
027 GG
028 GG
029 GG
030 GG (from here on for non GG & AW systems, I've checked detailed information ('i') in EDSM. *And these systems)
031 GG, HMC,*
032 GG, WW,
033 GG, RB x2, IB*
034 AW, HMC, IB*
035 AW
036 GG, RB, IB*
037 AW
038 AW, RB, IB x2*
039 GG
040 AW, WW,
041 GG, IB
042 GG
043 GG, RB x2,
044 GG x2
045 GG, HMC
046 GG
047 GG, AW, IB x2*
048 GG, WW (this system has 75 bodies!!)
049 GG*
050 GG, HMC, IB
051 GG, HMC,
052 AW, RB x2, (this system has a station)
053 GG x2, *
054 AW, HMC x2, WW, *
055 AW,
056 AW,
057 GG, RB,
058 GG,
059 WW, RB
060 AW, RB, RIW, WG, (1st RIW!)
061 GG, IB x2,
062 GG, IB
063 GG, IB (weird one this one, it's a landable IB with Ammonia magma! Other IBs may have Ammonia)
064 GG, RB, IB (this system has a station)
065 GG,
066 GG,
067 GG x2, WW,
068 GG
069 GG,
070 GG, HMC,
071 HMC
072 GG, IB
073 GG,
074 GG, *
075 AW
076 GG, IB,
077 GG, RB,
078 GG,
079 AW, RB,
080 GG
081 GG
082 GG, IB, RB x2,
083 GG
084 GG
085 GG x2
086 GG
087 GG, HMC, IB x2,
088 GG, HMC, IB x2,
089 GG, IB,
090 GG
091 GG x2,
092 WW, RB
093 RB, HMC
094 GG,
095 AW, IB
096 GG
097 GG, RB, HMC, IB
098 GG
099 GG, IB
100 GG
101 GG
102 GG
103 GG, RB
104 GG, HMC
105 GG, HMC x3
106 GG
107 GG, RB, HMC
108 GG, HMC
109 GG
110 AW
111 AW, HMC
112 AW, RIW
113 GG
114 GG
115 RB, WWx2, IB,
116 GG
117 GG x2
118 GG, IB
119 AW
120 GG, IB
121 GG, IB
122 GG, RB x2
123 GG
124 GG
125 GG
126 AW
127 GG
128 GG
129 GG
130 GG
131 GG
132 AW
133 GG
134 GG
135 GG
136 GG
137 GG, WW
138 GG
139 GG, RB
140 AW, RB
141 GG
142 GG, IB
143 GG
144 GG x2
145 GG, IB, HMC x2
146 GG
147 AW
148 WW, (HMC)
149 GG, RB
150 GG, IB
151 AW
152 GG
153 AW x2!
154 GG
155 GG
156 GG, HMC
157 GG
158 GG
159 GG
160 GG, RB, IB
Argh! I checked out every single one above manually, only to (re)discover I already had the information in a link to Klumpozyte's spread sheet! Which goes up to TS 217 at least.
Anyway, from TS 161-217 the primary ACWs are all GG ABLs or AWs.
218 GG
219 GG
220 GG, IB
221 AW
222 GG
223 GG, WW
224 GG, RB
225 GG, RB
226 AW
227 WW, RIW
228 GG ABL x2
229 RB (thin ammonia atmosphere!), HMC
229 AW
spansh search position, p1 to check next
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