Except Alpha commonly means a stage of development that's not feature complete. Beta typically is feature complete but testing balance and bugs. I take it you're a beta tester. I dont understand why you expect alpha access because development is taking longer than normal. :S
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Except Alpha commonly means a stage of development that's not feature complete. Beta typically is feature complete but testing balance and bugs. I take it you're a beta tester. I dont understand why you expect alpha access because development is taking longer than normal. :S
Gimme more. Now!
If you like Cmdr Kerrash' work, you should also check out Cmdr Aleph One (Neon Raven):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPpVTiLrcBU
HA! That would be sweet! But I don't mind waiting a little longer and getting my hands on some seriously playable Premium Beta Baby!!!
ROFL! You are hilarious! I love that self righteous indignation you've got going. Reminds me of a spoilt 5 year old. Excellent! Keep it coming HellRaiser (Fromhell)!
If you like Cmdr Kerrash' work, you should also check out Cmdr Aleph One (Neon Raven):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPpVTiLrcBU
HA! That would be sweet! But I don't mind waiting a little longer and getting my hands on some seriously playable Premium Beta Baby!!!
ROFL!
You are hilarious! I love that self righteous indignation you've got going. Reminds me of a spoilt 5 year old. Excellent! Keep it coming HellRaiser (Fromhell)!
When it is working correctly, I imagine that's exactly how it works. Right now, by all accounts it is pretty buggy. How do they know that opening the floodgates doesn't make it unplayable for everybody?
I'm in for £100 as well. But my hopes were for a longer beta rather than a timely one, I have to say.
I think you may be misunderstanding the difference between backing a project and pre-ordering a game.
It still doesn't mean that I cannot feel misguided by the campaign, if a company is missing a delivery estimate by more than 6 months..
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How would you feel if the Premium Beta only lasts a month as estimated?
People frustrations are justified, Like I said Frontier Must have known that Alpha was going to take longer than a month, it was kind of irresponsible of them to put out such unrealistic estimates ...
I'd thought I'd just say a couple of things about this as an alpha backer.
1. I don't think that alpha backers have been 'Lording' it over the others. A lot of you tube videos have been release but not to rub any other backer levels nose in it.
2. I don't think its ready yet for the full beta. we're on Alpha 3.3 and I'm still filling in bug reports and crash reports that are occurring in almost every session I play (Although I'm finding 3.3 is a lot more stable than the previous versions). It's a very rollercoster process where you get the highs (like docking for the first time) and the lows (where the space station you've just docked with disappears and you ship explodes).
3. You're not the only ones who are frustrated about the progress. Remember when Alpha 2 came out, there was a little grumbling about the time it took to come out but it was worth it in the end. The main point is that the milestones were estimated and if you've been in software development (Games or otherwise) there is always something that will challenge that development milestone.
4. The Alpha Backers have paid a higher tier and they are helping to make the Beta more stable.
Do you really want them to rush the Beta so you get in and can't play it because it wasn't really ready. That's like going back to what happened with FFE. I believe that they are trying to make the game the best it can be but if they made a release which didn't live up to the standards already seen, we'll have a lot of people saying why did I ever pay that much for the beta.
*Takes Cover*
1. I don't think that alpha backers have been 'Lording' it over the others. A lot of you tube videos have been release but not to rub any other backer levels nose in it.
2. I don't think its ready yet for the full beta. we're on Alpha 3.3 and I'm still filling in bug reports and crash reports that are occurring in almost every session I play (Although I'm finding 3.3 is a lot more stable than the previous versions). It's a very rollercoster process where you get the highs (like docking for the first time) and the lows (where the space station you've just docked with disappears and you ship explodes).
3. You're not the only ones who are frustrated about the progress. Remember when Alpha 2 came out, there was a little grumbling about the time it took to come out but it was worth it in the end. The main point is that the milestones were estimated and if you've been in software development (Games or otherwise) there is always something that will challenge that development milestone.
4. The Alpha Backers have paid a higher tier and they are helping to make the Beta more stable.
Do you really want them to rush the Beta so you get in and can't play it because it wasn't really ready. That's like going back to what happened with FFE. I believe that they are trying to make the game the best it can be but if they made a release which didn't live up to the standards already seen, we'll have a lot of people saying why did I ever pay that much for the beta.
*Takes Cover*
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There was a comment from one of the devs the other day - Michael I think - that indicated that sheer numbers are playing a part in some of the issues and that does tally with comments from many people.
Without doubt, i'm not begrudging you being miffed at the delay, I'm there with you.
However, suggesting that Frontier offer a refund is absurd. You didn't buy the Beta, you backed the development of the game, and the beta is a perk.
I suppose that's true, but no one knows the complications that drove development on like this. But I would have thought a month's alpha was tight.
I wouldn't want them to rush the Beta. It is great that Frontier Games is putting in all the effort and time into the development, and you can clearly see it in the quality of the Alpha videos so far. The game looks excellent.
All I am suggesting is that they would say that because they are so late with the Premium Beta, they are offering the chance to anyone who has pledged £100, to join the Alpha 4 release.
But the alpha is unstable now, with only alpha backers. You want to let in the other 40 thousand backers?
correct, I also think adding Alpha1, the offline demo, re-labelled as Gamma1 to everyone´s account would just "confuse" people.
No. I don´t pay for being a tester for a commercial product.
I paid 20 bucks in December 2012 for something remotely playable in March 2014. March 2014 has passed, so even 20 bucks seems like a bad deal. Well at least, I got to watch a free Youtube video.
If Premium Beta only lasted a month, I'd be ok with that. The purpose of the Alpha and Beta is to test the game, not to keep the backers happy. Frontier promised we could "take part" not direct how long or intensive the phases should be. Those are decisions best made on the basis of what is good for the game's development.
I understand people's frustrations, I just don't share them.
And you think that after Alpha 4 it will be stable with no problems? To my understanding the premium beta is still also pretty much work in progress..
And if you are referring to the Network unstability, it still doesn't make any difference how many players there are if they are using p2p.
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You could re-label it a chicken-cheese sandwich, the fact is the alpha isn't a demo. It's a stage of development you didn't pay to test. Why should you be allowed access?
You also seem to misunderstand the difference between preordering a product and backing the development of a product.
You didn't pay for something to play in March, you gave Frontier money so that they could work on creating the game (that has an estimated delivery of march).
I'm think as they are so late they should offer the chance to anyone who's pledged £100 to name a space station, a planet, write a book, go to the launch party and have dinner with David and the team.
Oh, I don't, I know the Alpha 4 will be just as crash-heavy as Alpha 3. However, what's gained by allowing everyone in? The game slows with multiple commanders online. Allowing everyone in will almost certainly make the game unlaunchable. Then there's a million bug reports and tickets raised as ever backer raised the same reports, meaning that it takes Frontier LONGER to get through the reports and LONGER to fix issues with the game.
It seems that you have no understanding on how a p2p network functions.
Would be delighted. I didn't pay for exclusive access.
Can't wait till Alpha is over.
FD should be more forthcoming with details, premium beta should be Alpha 4.01