Notice April Update - Known Issues (24/04/2019)
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half of something is better than all of nothing?
Quite often patches are released on Wednesday or Thursday. Monday & Friday are rarer.
Hmm I thought they'd set them on a tuesday but have just looked and you're very much right I stand corrected!
I am relatively-new player and this is maybe the 2nd or 3rd patch I've gone through, but most certainly the biggest one in terms of change log.
The thing I cannot "unsee" once considering the bugs that were introduced is that it looks like just major lack of care, personnell etc. which would be simply unbelievable for a product of this caliber and the clientele it already has. It's tough to think something like the priority modules and the 10cr restock (just to name two?) were not seen in even a simple quality-assurance test before patch deployment.
The worst part is that my real-life experience (+age) makes it terribly hard to find reasons other than the horrible ones I mentioned above. I really, really, really want to be wrong but I do work with companies (gaming companies as well) who do have young people, seasoned people, different teams etc.. and.. well we don't want to get into that discussion. I like to think that my experience has been terrible and I am biased.
Please, Frontier Developments: don't be "those people"! You are capable of projecting a good image of your team and their hard work, from the outside.. do the same from the inside (much harder, I know, especially in the social-media era)
Shortcuts in this (or other business) don't pay off, we all know that.
I am sure they will be releasing the fix this week, as they stated. But bear in mind the amount of pressure now is unbearable as everyone is looking at them (I would never want to be put in this situation in my daily job.. no matter the money!)
The thing I cannot "unsee" once considering the bugs that were introduced is that it looks like just major lack of care, personnell etc. which would be simply unbelievable for a product of this caliber and the clientele it already has. It's tough to think something like the priority modules and the 10cr restock (just to name two?) were not seen in even a simple quality-assurance test before patch deployment.
The worst part is that my real-life experience (+age) makes it terribly hard to find reasons other than the horrible ones I mentioned above. I really, really, really want to be wrong but I do work with companies (gaming companies as well) who do have young people, seasoned people, different teams etc.. and.. well we don't want to get into that discussion. I like to think that my experience has been terrible and I am biased.
Please, Frontier Developments: don't be "those people"! You are capable of projecting a good image of your team and their hard work, from the outside.. do the same from the inside (much harder, I know, especially in the social-media era)
Shortcuts in this (or other business) don't pay off, we all know that.
I am sure they will be releasing the fix this week, as they stated. But bear in mind the amount of pressure now is unbearable as everyone is looking at them (I would never want to be put in this situation in my daily job.. no matter the money!)
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Unfortunately, Frontier has painted a picture of a company not being interested in stability of their products in any way.
There are bugs - not glitches - still present for months if not years.
There have been months in which there was constant complaints on a daily basis, then a fix which was commented in the way of 'we just discovered' - which in turn led to user comments like 'how about playing your own game once in a while?'.
Elite is a wonderful thing. Quality management by frontier is not.
I second your notion in asking Frontier politely to raise their quality standards. The last update was a joke, most people I encountered are not anticipating updates but planning ahead in terms of not using Elite for a week or two. To quote one: "I am not here to beta test their updates".
So...
GOOD WORK @ ELITE, FRONTIER DEVELOPMENTS!
... not so in making sure your users don't lose ships by reset modules after an update and other frustrating stuff. You can do better.
Thanks Mitch, it's one of those topics I'd - for the love of me - like to be wrong. But again, life experience tells me otherwise and I am - guilty as charged - never been a good optimist.
I've been amazed time after time at how things like these can happen, and the sheer chain reaction these things cause. Which goes against everything a company owner would ever want, no matter their purpose. "good" or "evil", it doesn't matter.. the effects are disastrous and take away more than you gain. But then again, it did happen in front of my very eyes for teams I've worked with, and it was terrible.
I don't want to hide because it's clear that the length of my posts reveal this is touching a sensitive topic. Suffice to say it's paramount that this free fall is inverted and things go back to the level they deserve.
You have such a wonderful thing, Frontier Developments, that MANY people in the world would simply dream to achieve. Be it graphic designers, CEOs, music composers, coders... heck I even know doormen that would love to have a shot, ONE shot, at working at your doorbell. Most of these people are also very young and looking up to the world and you. Don't throw it away, don't be "those people" again.
Thanks for letting me write freely and I hope I did not offend anyone as this is by far my intention.
I've been amazed time after time at how things like these can happen, and the sheer chain reaction these things cause. Which goes against everything a company owner would ever want, no matter their purpose. "good" or "evil", it doesn't matter.. the effects are disastrous and take away more than you gain. But then again, it did happen in front of my very eyes for teams I've worked with, and it was terrible.
I don't want to hide because it's clear that the length of my posts reveal this is touching a sensitive topic. Suffice to say it's paramount that this free fall is inverted and things go back to the level they deserve.
You have such a wonderful thing, Frontier Developments, that MANY people in the world would simply dream to achieve. Be it graphic designers, CEOs, music composers, coders... heck I even know doormen that would love to have a shot, ONE shot, at working at your doorbell. Most of these people are also very young and looking up to the world and you. Don't throw it away, don't be "those people" again.
Thanks for letting me write freely and I hope I did not offend anyone as this is by far my intention.
You did not. I'm here since four years now and once in a while only I find posts like yours, respectfull to the hard work of hundreds of people working in Frontier Developments plc, while complaining so emotional about the product those people providing their customers with.
I'm more than sure they trully deserved a loyal customers base, as Elite Dangerous is a masterpiece indeed. And as in any complex piece of code there are and will always be various bugs there and there.
What makes me worry though, I have the impression the success of their games - especially Elite Dangerous which has no serious competition on the market at the moment - is a bit overwhelming for them. I think they need to catch up with maintaining such a successfull product they created. I'm sure they will, as they know well how to do business and such impressions as yours are simply bad for business in this industry.
And please, be sure our developers are very passionate about this game. Browse through the officiall You Tube streams of theirs, where they invite their lead specialists (e.g. audio, physics, background simulation etc.). I'm an entrepreneur myself and I'd kill for such a dedicated and passionate about their work people to work in my own company.
Also, the executive officers of Frontier have to be geniuses, they made this company what it is now in the last 6-7 years or so, while being totally independent and financially self sufficient throughout all the time.
We are witnessing something totally unique here my friend. I think you're aware of this, especially you claim to know the industry. Give yourself some time please and you'll enjoy the hell of a ride with the rest of the Commanders here. This is probably once in a lifetime oportunity. Flying among the stars like most of us were dreaming about decades ago.
Thank you for your input here and welcome to the void Commander! o7
Fly dangerously out there!
Heh - not often you get an 'I told you so' moment so fast
Ha when i get bored i like to play forum!Heh - not often you get an 'I told you so' moment so fast
Normally it's after I say 'well, it won't be tomorrow' that they post
The vast majority of the PVP community was against the drag buff. I was in favor of using this clearly OP and game-breaking mod to temporarily break the game and see what other balance issues popped out in terms of the weaknesses of defense utility slot options, but only on the condition that it would be reversed a week or so later (which obviously was always going to happen). Anyone who thought this was a good buff that should stay in the game was clearly not paying attention. Either that or they were trying to shift the meta to ships that were less impacted by engine PIP loss.
Yes it would have certainly shifted the game so that some ships would be less impacted and still relatively faster by a similar ∆v. But it would also slow down the game, not just in relative terms, but in absolute terms like the ability to go so fast (in terms of traversing deg/s of firing arc) that turrets wouldn't be able to track would be virtually gone from the game, allowing turrets to become more effective and hence countering the speed advantage a bit. Adding a ubiquitous omni-snare to the game seems like a very strange and round-about way to address a more global balance issue though.
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Credit where its due its a very impressive patch with the number of bugs theyve fixedNormally it's after I say 'well, it won't be tomorrow' that they post
Here we go! Patch announced!
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Patch Notes - Update - April Update - Patch 1
Greetings Commanders, The Elite Dangerous servers will be offline for all platforms from tomorrow morning (2 May) starting at 09:30 AM (UTC) for approximately 30 minutes to apply a minor update containing fixes and improvements. Thank you for your patience. Please find the full patch notes...
Yes, same problem here. She responds to orders (attack target, hold position, dock fighter etc) so is still fully functional as part of the crew but is totally silent whilst doing so.
I have a female pilot in my crew (kudos to her for bearing with the horrible conditions we're currently working at) but she does talk normally as in "roger that, commander.." or "all hostiles eliminated" and "they're trying to escape, commander" etc.
She was hired way before the April's patch if that matters.
My pilot was also hired long ago and prior to the April patch was chatting away happily. It seems something in the patch has caused the lack of natter. (glances slyly towards wife, wondering if Frontier would be willing to share the secret).