Powerplay Archon Delaine Power Play Discussion
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Fergal,
Tonight I herded cats.
Seemed liked it worked.
No waiting. Just a lot of people grinding, then at 30 mins left fly back home.
Most people with a thousand or thereabouts...
Btw, why was it so much harder for us to oppose you?
Good work with the cats
What do you mean harder to oppose us? Do you mean the trigger amounts?
Asvienses is Patronage, which are the types of systems that give us an advantage.
Doesn't seem to bother FD that these systems are all Imperial, Dictatorships give us an disadvantage, but they are where the illegal goods are made.
I would have though Anarchy and Dictatorships are what Archon would want, not Patronage systems.
most important any system that stand near the delaine/torval frontier, system that needs slaves and forbid them and sell narco at the same time! the larger the frontier between delaine and torval will be : the more opportunities it'll give to us : smugglers ^^
if you may conclude that kind of agreement with torval you may gain many cmdr to support delaine (because of the +10% passive on the black market on one side and the -10% on the buying of imperial slaves on the other) + the reduction on fine and bounty if you aside delaine!
if you may conclude that kind of agreement with torval you may gain many cmdr to support delaine (because of the +10% passive on the black market on one side and the -10% on the buying of imperial slaves on the other) + the reduction on fine and bounty if you aside delaine!
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Thats a good idea, looks like there is a bit of room between Torval and us, I'll take a look
A few systems on the border with Torval.
Gelong
Patronage (expansion bonus to us)
Agricultural (should have tobacco and narcotics when we take it)
large station close to star
107 ly from capital
zmey goab
agricultural
96ly from capital
Serklich
agri/refinery
lots of stations 3 large
82 ly from capital
Gelong is the best one in my opinion, but its quite far away (Its also got billions of imperial citizens if you want to stick it to ALD).
Serklich looks pretty good, should have a nice supply of metals, narcotics and tobacco all from large stations. Its much closer to us but shouldn't be too many jumps from Torval to buy the cheap slaves.
Gelong
Patronage (expansion bonus to us)
Agricultural (should have tobacco and narcotics when we take it)
large station close to star
107 ly from capital
zmey goab
agricultural
96ly from capital
Serklich
agri/refinery
lots of stations 3 large
82 ly from capital
Gelong is the best one in my opinion, but its quite far away (Its also got billions of imperial citizens if you want to stick it to ALD).
Serklich looks pretty good, should have a nice supply of metals, narcotics and tobacco all from large stations. Its much closer to us but shouldn't be too many jumps from Torval to buy the cheap slaves.
I like the Gelong option!
Is there an ambassy beetwen torval and delaine?
Is there an ambassy beetwen torval and delaine?
Lavignys Legion (the guys who run ALD) are basically trying to build a coalition among all the other powers to kick us out from the game.
I'd imagine they have control over Turvals followers too.
I'll drop 100 prep packets into Geelong since you like it
We have 5 expansion options this cycle.
BD-00 4461 Agricultural/Industrial near Capital
Anedjete Industrial Patronage near Patreus
44 G. Aquilae High Income but far away
Kakmbutan Excellent trigger ratio of over 6 to 1
Oxlahatta Extraction/Refinery on Patreus border
44 G. Aquilae looks like a nice system, but I don't know whos going to travel up there each week to fortify it. It will probably always get undermined.
I think BD-00 4461 and Anedjete should be good for smuggling money. Anedjete also has Imperial Slaves.
Kakmbutan looks like a nice backup system if we are struggling to get an expansion. Its triggers are 5094 to 33163, so it will take a fair effort to cancel our expansion there.
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BD-00 4461 Agricultural/Industrial near Capital
Anedjete Industrial Patronage near Patreus
44 G. Aquilae High Income but far away
Kakmbutan Excellent trigger ratio of over 6 to 1
Oxlahatta Extraction/Refinery on Patreus border
44 G. Aquilae looks like a nice system, but I don't know whos going to travel up there each week to fortify it. It will probably always get undermined.
I think BD-00 4461 and Anedjete should be good for smuggling money. Anedjete also has Imperial Slaves.
Kakmbutan looks like a nice backup system if we are struggling to get an expansion. Its triggers are 5094 to 33163, so it will take a fair effort to cancel our expansion there.
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I don't know about Oxlahatta and 44 G. Aquilae. The former does not have a large stations and the latter's station is 5k away from the sun.
Couldn't find KAKBMUTAN, typo?
I have no problem with BD-00 4461 and Anedjete.
Any thoughts, fellow Kumo Crew?
Couldn't find KAKBMUTAN, typo?
I have no problem with BD-00 4461 and Anedjete.
Any thoughts, fellow Kumo Crew?
Let's consider that two of those systems are close to Pat territory and the last time we tried to push one close to them the Imperials cried "HOSTILE!" and used it to justify the current campaign against us.
Just consider it though, if either turns out to be a good one for us let us go for it.
Just consider it though, if either turns out to be a good one for us let us go for it.
Let's consider that two of those systems are close to Pat territory and the last time we tried to push one close to them the Imperials cried "HOSTILE!" and used it to justify the current campaign against us.
Just consider it though, if either turns out to be a good one for us let us go for it.
Oh you mean that time when they launched their SOLO OFFENSIVE at us, right that was fun...
Very good points here.
However please note that 44 Aquilae by itself produce the income of all of the others.
Meaning with ONE solid push we get the income and we focus on 1 System.
If we look at expanding on more than one system to collect a decent income, we need to DIVIDE our forces to work on several thousands kills on multiple locations. Do we have enough forces to do that? Especially after a lot of ppl left due to the wonderful "Shytolaser"?
However, 44 Aquilae has a couple of negatives:
1 - Distance from HQ 115 LY --- This is not that bad, Cobra and T6 can make this for Control in just few jumps - Undermined, probably.. Controllable, as well
2 - 5K to station - yeah, that s a pain... we just have to think if it is worthy...
3 - It seems quite close to Hudson's BRANI... however it seems tome that everything we have is quite close to someone.
This means, many of our system can be Undermined anyway.. is it better risk and fight for Higher income or Lower income?
My opinion is better getting a Higher income NOW and then we will see later, than getting a lower income now and then it can be as well Undermined and become extremely expensive anyway...
Thoughts?
Its Kakmbutan.
I put a bug report here yesterday, just updated it with my findings of what our power actually does (or doesn't do)
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=166662
From what I can see so far, when we take over a control system it reduced the price of drugs and weapons by 5% and it increases the supply or demand of Personal Weapons by a large amount.
Slaves (normal and Imperial) are not made legal.
This is quite different from the in game description:
Ah, I have no problem with that system.
Lavignys Legion (the guys who run ALD) are basically trying to build a coalition among all the other powers to kick us out from the game.
I'd imagine they have control over Turvals followers too.
I'll drop 100 prep packets into Geelong since you like it
If that is their goal.
Count me out...
I guess you missed all their posts last week
Ngam, courtesy of CMDR WeasleMcSpanger, looks like a nice system if anyone is interested in higher income ones.
its next to Ngbato.
Its agricultural, has a large station next to the star (and 2 more large stations)
Has an income of 135cc and an upkeep of -33cc
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Most major Archon Delaine player groups, my syndicate included have been doing that since day one.
Though being an amoral faction doesn't really gain much love, that's for sure. (Easy moral high ground is easy)
Ngbato is undermined to 42% already. Either they are keeping back their merits form last cycle, or the evil empire is focusing on one system at a time.
It wont work any better than last week.
We only need the income from our top 4 earners plus the capital to cover all our costs.
Make sure Nltt 53690, Lusonda, Arawere and Ngbato are fortified and we wont go into turmoil.
It wont work any better than last week.
We only need the income from our top 4 earners plus the capital to cover all our costs.
Make sure Nltt 53690, Lusonda, Arawere and Ngbato are fortified and we wont go into turmoil.
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