Notice ARX and Frontier Points Conversion

The Bonus ARX for the higher tier purchases, Why not just remove the Bonus label and say 26,800 total ARX or 100,000 total ARX?
Is the Bonus label an attempt to tickle the part of the human brain that thinks £19.99 is a better deal than £20.00? Its an obvious carrot on a stick.
Im sure players of ED will buy as many ARX as they feel they need based upon the items that they have ear marked for their ships in game.

The bonus nonsense allows them to give us more Sex on special occasions without changing the base price.
 
The bonus nonsense allows them to give us more Sex on special occasions without changing the base price.

Couldnt they just Lower the ARX amount in game?
620 for one Ship paint is now 400 for 3 days.

One gets players spending what they already have, while the other encourages players to buy more. :whistle:🤔
 
There many issues with Arx that no one is talking about.

1. Due to the bundle structure, you are actually overpaying for items now. Yes, it's not as bad as the old days but this hasn't be acknowledge.

So you think its an improvement then ?.

2. Cosmetics are a big deal to some people. Luckily we are not as immature as the Fortnite community but there are still people who are compulsive buyers that will be basically ripped off by the conversion to Arx

As a non-cosmetics buyer I think its nice of those people to fund the game for me.

3. Fdev (who are partly owned by the Chinese company Tencent) may start selling items that are not cosmetics. What's stopping them from selling ships or new weapons. Remember Bethesda made the same claim in Fallout 76. Then they started selling QoL improvements. With a shrinking player base, Fdev maybe one bad quarter away from selling Fleet carriers. Why does it matter. It's classic progression as they slowly escalate requirements.

Speculative doom.

4. There maybe financial issues as well since it maybe harder to cancel credit card purchases. Rather give you your money back they may just give you the equivalent in Arx which is worthless.

Wildly speculative DDDOOOOOOOMMM !

5. Earning Arx in game is just a gimmick. In the US the average hourly wage will soon be $15 an HOUR. Arx earning is rough equally to 32 cents a WEEK. Also some dedicated players may "earn" enough to hit the cap. So why is there a cap since items are cosmetics.

Are you genuinely angry the video game pays less than a job ?.
 
OK, I wrote a spreadsheet. This is based on the 12 Arx that was earned in 34 minutes in the livestream, making it 18 Arx per hour.

A basic paint job is now 50p (£3 for a set of 6) it becomes 49p (in the £3.99 bundle) down to 36p (in the £49.99 bundle). I haven't checked any others.
  1. Decal @ 50: either play for 2hrs and 40 minutes or pay £2.99 and have £2.96 (4940 Arx) sitting in FDev's servers for your next purchase
  2. Decal @ 150: play for over 8 hours or pay £2.99 and save up £2.90 (4850 Arx)
  3. SRV/Fighter Paint @ 460: play for over 25 hours or pay £2.99 and save up £2.71 (4540 Arx)
  4. Ship Paint @ 620: play for over 34 hours or pay £2.99 and save up £2.62 (4380 Arx)
  5. Bobblehead @ 2450: play for over 136 hours or pay £2.99 and save up £1.52 (2550 Arx)
  6. SRV/Fighter Paint @ 3280: play for over 182 hours or pay £2.99 and save up £1.03 (1720 Arx)
  7. Ship Paint @ 5520: Pay £2.99 and play for over 28 hours or pay £4.99 and save up £1.87 (3300)
  8. Bobblehead @ 6450: Pay £2.99 and play for over 80 hours or pay £4.99 and save up £1.34 (2370 Arx)
  9. COVAS @ 8850: Pay £4.99 and play for 1 hour 40 minutes, or pay £2.99+£2.99 and save up £0.65 (1150 Arx)
  10. Ship kit @ 11750: Pay £4.99 and play over 162 hours or pay £2.99+£4.99 and save up £1.17 (2070 Arx)
  11. Ship kit @ 13520: Pay £4.99 and play for over 261 hours, or pay £2.99+£4.99 and save up £0.17 (300 Arx)
The whole point of an in-game currency is to allow us to make small purchases out of a single credit card transaction, so items 1-6 are unavoidable.

COVAS effectively becomes £1 cheaper and decals become free in small quantities.

It would be nice to have an option between £2.99 and £4.99; that's a lot of game-time if you don't want to sit on your Arx.

Edit: it's never a good idea to buy £9.99 for a single purchase.
Edit 2: gross error in bundle prices, but doesn't affect anything but the price saved.
 
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How about let us purchase individual ship kit pieces?

How about let us purchase specific exact amounts of ARX rather than scamming us with packs of preset amounts?

How about ship kits show up in the loading screen and in your HUD rather than being relegated to external camera mode only?

Thanks!
Where is the scam exactly?
 
Hello everyone,

Firstly, thank you for all of the feedback you have shared so far!

We’ve been looking through your comments and wanted to provide some clarity on some topics of discussion:

ARX PACKS

It seems there has been some confusion regarding the number of ARX in a pack, specifically if that bonus is included in or added to the displayed amount.

The bonus is always added on top of the base ARX in a pack. We've added the Total ARX included in each pack for you here:
  • 5000 ARX Pack
  • 8,400 ARX Pack (+420 bonus) = 8,820 total ARX
  • 16,800 ARX Pack (+900 bonus) = 17,700 total ARX
  • 25,500 ARX Pack (+1,300 bonus) = 26,800 total ARX
  • 51,000 ARX Pack (+3,000 bonus) = 54,000 total ARX
  • 85,000 ARX Pack (+15,000 bonus) = 100,000 total ARX
GAME EXTRA PRICES

Some of you have understandably requested some context in the form of prices of Game Extras in ARX, so that you can get an idea of your spending power, and how much your weekly free ARX will net you. We’ve provided a list of item types below and the range of prices they will cost in ARX. There are too many products to give you an exhaustive list of prices here, but to give you some idea, here are some examples of products and price ranges:

You can expect these prices for the following item types:
  • Decals - 50 to 150 ARX
  • Individual Fighter and SRV Paint Jobs - 460 to 3280 ARX
  • Individual Ship Paint Jobs - 620 to 5,520 ARX
  • Individual Bobbleheads – 2,450 to 6,450 ARX
  • COVAS – 8,850 ARX
  • Ship Kits (sold in Bundles) – 11,750 to 13,520 ARX
As mentioned by Executive Producer Adam Woods on the livestream, some Game Extras will only be available in bundles, such as Ship Kits and Holo-Me Customisation items.

EARNING ARX WHILE PLAYING

A key pillar of ARX is the ability to earn Game Extras over time through gameplay, which has previously not been possible. When earning free ARX, every Commander will be able to quickly spend them on a variety of items or save them for later purchases.
  • We don’t want to alter the way you play Elite Dangerous; we’ve looked at common in-game actions across all the main careers or activities (such as Exploration, Trade and Combat) and ensured that those actions provide a number of ARX.
  • By simply engaging with those activities, as you would normally (such as exploring a new system, hauling cargo or destroying other ships), you will receive a number of ARX.
  • Being in-game but inactive will not reward you with ARX. It isn’t based on time spent in-game, but on the actions you take.
FRONTIER STORE DOWNTIME
  • To clarify on the Frontier Store Downtime, cosmetic items and Game Extras will not be available for purchase from 16 September at 07:00 (UTC) and will go live again once the September Update has been deployed.
Please let us know if you have any questions and we’ll do our best to answer where we can!

Ah yes, the usual cash shop pseudo currency B S. You had until now the decency to sell cosmetics directly for cash, no conversion masking the real price, no point bundles leaving you with left-overs and all the other usual shenanigans. You even added the typical bonus points to larger bundles so people are incentivised to buy a large pile of points at once instead of only just as much as they need for a particular item. Way to go.
 
no conversion masking the real price,
Here you go
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Edit: There were a few mistakes
 
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Ah yes, the usual cash shop pseudo currency B S. You had until now the decency to sell cosmetics directly for cash, no conversion masking the real price, no point bundles leaving you with left-overs and all the other usual shenanigans. You even added the typical bonus points to larger bundles so people are incentivised to buy a large pile of points at once instead of only just as much as they need for a particular item. Way to go.

Only at a first glance it actually looks like that (and what I admit also was thinking at first). But what are we talking about here? Other than your "usual cash shop pseudo currency B S" you do not have to upgrade your ARX pool with real money, just be a little patient and earn these small left-overs in game. Can't you really see the difference? The only people this could possibly hurt are the "want it all, want it now" people or the kids with way too rich parents.
But seriously - who cares?
 
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