Autocannons as a replacement for Class 3-4 multicannons

[Star-Hunter]

Im wondering if it would be possible to introduce Autocannons for C3-C4 hardpoints

Large multicannons were dropped because they were unbalanced, and i think large caliber machine guns would be "unrealistic"

but given that multicanons in game represent AA and historically, machine guns were surpassed by autocannons such as the 40mm BOFORS

What i propose:

C3 autocannons -similar properties as C2 (regular) cannon but
-with a 5 round burst fire (similar to burst laser - full burst is fired in rapid succession)
-worse accuracy than C3 cannon (as in wider projectile spread)
- much higher muzzle velocity + comparatively higher armor penetration
- much lower damage/shot potential (although burst damage should be similar to one C3 cannon shot)
- better target tracking for turreted/gimbaled mounts (faster weapon turn rate / better target acquisition)

it could even use the C2 cannon model with minor modifications such as an added reloading mechanism with ammo-boxes to fill up the large hardpoint´s space

C3 class could look something like this
View attachment 24117
and for C4 something similar to this would be perfect
View attachment 24115

similar proposals:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=131610&p=2015529#post2015529

 

[uncle bulgaria]

I could certainly get on board with that.

 

[Dinsy]

sounds ace to me, really feel projectile weapons are missing something in the upper hardpoint sizes

 

[andyraptor]

Nope

You stated yourself why they were dropped

Your poor old Vulture will just have to do without



Have a wonderful day

 

[Stormulus]

Sounds great to me, but then again I have a soft spot for high caliber projectiles.

 

[Zeeman]

I'd be happy for normal C3 and 4 cannons to just get a slight velocity buff - right now, you may was well climb out of the cockpit and float on over to your target with the cannon shell in hand, than whack it against the hull.

Z...

 

[Star-Hunter]

Nope

You stated yourself why they were dropped

Your poor old Vulture will just have to do without



Have a wonderful day

First, im flying the Federal Dropship
Second, why does it matter what ship would it be fitted to if it is balanced?

and finally the proposed weapon is significantly different from the C3 multicannons that were dropped

 

[Deleted member 38366]

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[Star-Hunter]

slow muzzle velocity of cannons is intended to prevent sniping (i.e. hitting fighters at medium ranges) it makes cannons only really useful against large ships. these autocannons would be better at hitting small agile craft although with lower DMG/impact (so no one shots) and their accuracy means you cant snipe sub-systems from long range.

Additionaly, burst fire means you cant just spam them

 

[Elpapo]

That sounds like that Fed's capital class side cannons. They fire on 5-6 bursts, with range like 5-6 km... Would like to have something similar to mount on c3 or c4 Hp.

 

[Star-Hunter]

well the idea was to create something similar, although much smaller scale

 

[Jordan Cobalt]

I agree, but then again, I'd agree with any idea for new c3 weapons. there's a lack of variety there.

 

[Frenotx]

I've been meaning to make a thread asking for basically the same thing. I was even going to use the bofors as an example.

 

[Star-Hunter]

good, that means that its not such stupid idea after all

 

[andyraptor]

First, im flying the Federal Dropship
Second, why does it matter what ship would it be fitted to if it is balanced?

and finally the proposed weapon is significantly different from the C3 multicannons that were dropped

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whatever you say... until this game actually puts up a public access stats site .....to show player account stats .. I'll believe the moon is really Elvis in disguise first



trying to sneak autocannons in by limiting it to burst size... is just trying to sneak the unbalanced weapon back in .... C3 Pulses will be just fine for now or fit C2 autocannons

I still oppose the motion ... by the lack of answers in here... I'd say most others don't really care that much either

Have a wonderful day ..........

 

[Sandro Sammarco]

Hello Commander Star-Hunter!

Just wanted to say I like this concept.

A light cannon, something between normal cannons and multi-cannons. Perhaps a kinetic gun that feels a little like the Flak 38 (I think), that I remember having such an impact in Saving Private Ryan (as in sounds and fire rate, rather than the horrific results).

No promises or ETA, but I think there's room for a weapon like this.

 

[Freddie Mc]

Cant we just have a flying gatling AKA the space warthog?

 

[Pixeldemon]

I like . Also Sandro, how are procedural modules and weapons coming along? It would definitely inject some life into ship customization.

 

[OldSalt]

Sounds something like the 40mm's on a Hurricane IID (I loved that thing in IL2) and also a great idea !

 

[Jorlin]

Hello Commander Star-Hunter!

Just wanted to say I like this concept.

A light cannon, something between normal cannons and multi-cannons. Perhaps a kinetic gun that feels a little like the Flak 38 (I think), that I remember having such an impact in Saving Private Ryan (as in sounds and fire rate, rather than the horrific results).

No promises or ETA, but I think there's room for a weapon like this.

flak 88

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.8_cm_Flak_18/36/37/41