News Background Simulation - Update (01/03)

Will Flanagan

Community Manager
Frontier
Hello Commanders,

We wanted to give you an update on the current state of the Background Simulation and detail some changes we are going to be implementing in an attempt to combat some of the issues that have been flagged up.

Before that, we would like to thank all of your who shared your feedback on the forums, across social media and on Discord since the release of Beyond - Chapter Four. With these reports, we were able to identify issues with the simulation and while we could not reply to each of you individually, please rest assured that we have read your feedback and investigated details in the galaxy's databases and server logs where possible.

As we've mentioned previously, this is an on-going process, so some tweaks and changes are still likely to come as we release more updates of the BGS.

We've been taking a really in-depth look at how all of the galaxy's factions have reacted to having multiple states active at once and to how the galaxy reacts to each and every player action in the core of the background simulation, and are ready to release some more changes to the live game servers today from 1:30 PM (UTC).

While we don't usually put changes like these out on a Friday, we've heard your feedback and believe it is better to give you the weekend to try out them out and provide any feedback you might have. Next week, we'll be able to take a look at your comments and assess the impact these revisions have had.

Please find the details below:

Faction Influence

  • Most cases reported - where you had performed a lot of positive influence actions to a given faction, but saw minimal increases or even a decrease: this is due to the way the system distributes influence and has to keep everything at 100% maximum (this can be lower when some factions in the system are in a conflict).
  • At the current time, if you are trying to support a faction in a system, we would recommend that you try not add too many positive influence inputs to other factions that system, especially if they have relatively low influence.
  • After extensively analysing the live galaxy's data and logs, we have re-balanced equations which convert player actions into influence.
  • We have also looked at the amount of movement that occurs per tick and you may find movement is slightly slower. This is done for two reasons:
  • Firstly, we believe it will help with the first point above.
  • Secondly, that it provides us more wiggle room whilst we balance and tweak the BGS further.

Faction Conflicts

  • The Outbreak state no longer breaks War and Civil War scoring (a fix we introduced two weeks ago).
  • From Beyond - Chapter Four, Faction Conflicts were changed to run for a fixed duration, keeping a daily 'score' for each faction, and then the overall Conflict result was determined by the number of days that a given faction 'won'. The days won are announced in the faction status local news articles in that starsystem.
Starting Conflict
  • To reduce the number of Conflicts in the galaxy and to make them more meaningful, Conflicts will now only be triggered during invasions or when one or both factions control an asset that's at risk by that Conflict.
Player actions affecting a daily Conflict score

  • Previously, the day's score was determined by diverting faction influence inputs (subject to the usual rules of combat actions affecting War and Civil War and non-combat actions affecting Elections). However, we've now changed faction Conflict scores to be driven by their own set of equations.
  • We've kept the relative balance of how each action is weighted against others, but it should now be much harder to lose a day in a Conflict by accidentally putting positive inputs into your opposing faction.
  • Fixed Conflict Zone objective causing incorrect influence changes when they occurred during the tick and whilst a Conflict state was in the process of ending.
  • To be clear, influence changes after any Conflict should be the ±4% change. This is designed to separate the winners and losers of a Conflict, so that it doesn't immediately restart.
Winning Conflicts

  • We've stopped awarding bonus days won if one side beat the other by a huge margin (designed to allow a faction to force a draw by heroic efforts if it was losing 4-0),
  • Conflicts will now end earlier if there aren't enough days of the Conflict remaining for the losing faction to at least achieve a draw.
  • This should make Conflict results less confusing and further reduce the number of Conflicts going on around the galaxy at any point in time.
Balancing player actions for War/Civil War

  • Winning Conflict Zone objectives is the most obvious way to help win a war.
  • Most combat missions, combat bonds, bounty hunting and violent crimes will all contribute towards a War or Civil War.
Balancing player actions for Elections

  • Players need to concentrate on non-combat actions that positively affect their chosen faction, while avoiding positive actions for the opposing faction. You can also provide negative economic actions onto the opposing faction.
  • Non-combat missions, commodity trading (and smuggling), search and rescue work, selling exploration data and helping out with scenarios at installations and megaships are all good ways to contribute towards an Election.
Economic and Security states

  • Many of you have commented that the investment and Civil Liberty states are easy to achieve and sustain across the galaxy, and that Lockdown and Famine are very rare.
  • We've already made a several changes for how negative actions apply negative economic and security effects, and also how quickly the EP & SP bars drain back towards the centre. We expect to make further tweaks once we've analysed the results of this set of changes.
 
Good job guys. Be interesting to see if this is all practical changes though. Just don't break anything else on the bgs 😂
 
Thanks Will.

One thing that springs to mind. "•To reduce the number of Conflicts in the galaxy and to make them more meaningful, Conflicts will now only be triggered during invasions or when one or both factions control an asset that's at risk by that Conflict."
Will all the new space assets be added to the system map so we can find out who owns them?
 
Trying to understand if Coup War mechanics follow the war rules or not. We triggered a war at 61.5% v 10.5% influence and deliberately we have kept it as a Draw. Who wins?
 

Will Flanagan

Community Manager
Frontier
Updated the OP for clarity:

Faction Conflicts

  • The Outbreak state no longer breaks War and Civil War scoring (a fix we introduced two weeks ago).
Player actions affecting a daily Conflict score

  • Fixed Conflict Zone objective causing incorrect influence changes when they occurred during the tick and whilst a Conflict state was in the process of ending.
 
They changes look very good, but the proof will be in the pudding. Shame I can't try them out though as I am some distance from the bubble.
 

Nicou

Volunteer Moderator
Now we're talking!
Excellent job, thank you for raising a quality post with a lot of details.
We'll test it out starting today.

Enjoy your week-end! :)
 
Thx sounds good :)

Oh uhm , update is coming with the Daily BGS tick calculations from last 24 hours? or do we have to wait for the BGS Tick?
@Will Flanagan

its about BGS tick time...
 
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Trying to understand if Coup War mechanics follow the war rules or not. We triggered a war at 61.5% v 10.5% influence and deliberately we have kept it as a Draw. Who wins?
I think with 3.3 mechanics no-one, as its the action in the war and not the system influence that counts.
 
I would rather see a "Coup War" start on first day with a "Total Victory" on day 1, for the one with above 63%. So its more a "Coup", then just a "normal" War.

Other side would still have the chanche to fight it.
 
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Faction Conflicts


Starting Conflict
  • To reduce the number of Conflicts in the galaxy and to make them more meaningful, Conflicts will now only be triggered during invasions or when one or both factions control an asset that's at risk by that Conflict.
Will,

So this means factions can pass each other in influence as long as none of them holds an asset, correct?


Side question:
Asset means ALL assets or just ones a ship can dock at?


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Winning Conflicts

  • We've stopped awarding bonus days won if one side beat the other by a huge margin (designed to allow a faction to force a draw by heroic efforts if it was losing 4-0),
  • Conflicts will now end earlier if there aren't enough days of the Conflict remaining for the losing faction to at least achieve a draw.
  • This should make Conflict results less confusing and further reduce the number of Conflicts going on around the galaxy at any point in time.
Will,

This means if a faction is winning the first four days of a conflict the conflict is won and will end with day 5, correct?



Definitely one of the best messages this week, quality detail provided and as far as I can tell on paper also a quality improvement for all BGS players.

Thank you very much!
 
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Hello Commanders,

We wanted to give you an update on the current state of the Background Simulation and detail some changes we are going to be implementing in an attempt to combat some of the issues that have been flagged up.

Before that, we would like to thank all of your who shared your feedback on the forums, across social media and on Discord since the release of Beyond - Chapter Four. With these reports, we were able to identify issues with the simulation and while we could not reply to each of you individually, please rest assured that we have read your feedback and investigated details in the galaxy's databases and server logs where possible.

As we've mentioned previously, this is an on-going process, so some tweaks and changes are still likely to come as we release more updates of the BGS.

We've been taking a really in-depth look at how all of the galaxy's factions have reacted to having multiple states active at once and to how the galaxy reacts to each and every player action in the core of the background simulation, and are ready to release some more changes to the live game servers today from 1:30 PM (UTC).

While we don't usually put changes like these out on a Friday, we've heard your feedback and believe it is better to give you the weekend to try out them out and provide any feedback you might have. Next week, we'll be able to take a look at your comments and assess the impact these revisions have had.

Please find the details below:

Faction Influence

  • Most cases reported - where you had performed a lot of positive influence actions to a given faction, but saw minimal increases or even a decrease: this is due to the way the system distributes influence and has to keep everything at 100% maximum (this can be lower when some factions in the system are in a conflict).
  • At the current time, if you are trying to support a faction in a system, we would recommend that you try not add too many positive influence inputs to other factions that system, especially if they have relatively low influence.
  • After extensively analysing the live galaxy's data and logs, we have re-balanced equations which convert player actions into influence.
  • We have also looked at the amount of movement that occurs per tick and you may find movement is slightly slower. This is done for two reasons:
  • Firstly, we believe it will help with the first point above.
  • Secondly, that it provides us more wiggle room whilst we balance and tweak the BGS further.

Faction Conflicts

  • The Outbreak state no longer breaks War and Civil War scoring (a fix we introduced two weeks ago).
  • From Beyond - Chapter Four, Faction Conflicts were changed to run for a fixed duration, keeping a daily 'score' for each faction, and then the overall Conflict result was determined by the number of days that a given faction 'won'. The days won are announced in the faction status local news articles in that starsystem.
Starting Conflict
  • To reduce the number of Conflicts in the galaxy and to make them more meaningful, Conflicts will now only be triggered during invasions or when one or both factions control an asset that's at risk by that Conflict.
Player actions affecting a daily Conflict score

  • Previously, the day's score was determined by diverting faction influence inputs (subject to the usual rules of combat actions affecting War and Civil War and non-combat actions affecting Elections). However, we've now changed faction Conflict scores to be driven by their own set of equations.
  • We've kept the relative balance of how each action is weighted against others, but it should now be much harder to lose a day in a Conflict by accidentally putting positive inputs into your opposing faction.
  • Fixed Conflict Zone objective causing incorrect influence changes when they occurred during the tick and whilst a Conflict state was in the process of ending.
  • To be clear, influence changes after any Conflict should be the ±4% change. This is designed to separate the winners and losers of a Conflict, so that it doesn't immediately restart.
Winning Conflicts

  • We've stopped awarding bonus days won if one side beat the other by a huge margin (designed to allow a faction to force a draw by heroic efforts if it was losing 4-0),
  • Conflicts will now end earlier if there aren't enough days of the Conflict remaining for the losing faction to at least achieve a draw.
  • This should make Conflict results less confusing and further reduce the number of Conflicts going on around the galaxy at any point in time.
Balancing player actions for War/Civil War

  • Winning Conflict Zone objectives is the most obvious way to help win a war.
  • Most combat missions, combat bonds, bounty hunting and violent crimes will all contribute towards a War or Civil War.
Balancing player actions for Elections

  • Players need to concentrate on non-combat actions that positively affect their chosen faction, while avoiding positive actions for the opposing faction. You can also provide negative economic actions onto the opposing faction.
  • Non-combat missions, commodity trading (and smuggling), search and rescue work, selling exploration data and helping out with scenarios at installations and megaships are all good ways to contribute towards an Election.
Economic and Security states

  • Many of you have commented that the investment and Civil Liberty states are easy to achieve and sustain across the galaxy, and that Lockdown and Famine are very rare.
  • We've already made a several changes for how negative actions apply negative economic and security effects, and also how quickly the EP & SP bars drain back towards the centre. We expect to make further tweaks once we've analysed the results of this set of changes.
This is all great news. However the retreat mechanic is near impossible to successfully execute, forcing a faction out. This is due to the nature of how mission boards generate missions & select target factions to deliver to. It's worsened by how INF is is distributed, favoring factions with lower INF. A clever way to force a retreat up until now was to lock all 6 factions on conflict while the 7th was below 2.5%. with the removal of conflict without assets, that just got extremely hard in some systems, near impossible in some regions of space.


How is frontier going to address the broken retreat state? It's not, in my mind, interacting with the Galaxy as intended.
 
Good job

Conflicts will now end earlier if there aren't enough days of the Conflict remaining for the losing faction to at least achieve a draw.
Loving this change, as the wars were dragging on a bit when you are dominating everyday and have filled the bar already.
 
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