Bacon Cats!

[Faded Glory]

I'm heading back from the Carinae Nebula with a fair bit of exploration data. Would selling it anywhere in particular help you out?

I have no idea whether selling exploration data helps the minor faction's influence, but if it does, and I suspect Abil will know, then selling it at any of the stations controlled by Bcats in Priva, Raurugba or even Yota would do it. And what a very gentlemanly offer Asp...

I'm sure the Drunks of Sol would approve.

 

[Abil Midena]

Is bounty hunting still useful? I could zip back to my home system and do a bit of ship transferring and bring my Python down for delivery missions and the like...

But yes, come on Mouse... The Bcats need you.

Yes, BH will still help. It's just that we're in boom, so trade gets double impact. So BH if that's your thing, otherwise, trade, then missions.

I'm heading back from the Carinae Nebula with a fair bit of exploration data. Would selling it anywhere in particular help you out?

If we are not in war/civil war when you get here, yes, it will help. Currently, we need the most help in Priva/Dugan. If you can post here the day before you are going to sell the expo data, I can update you if anything has changed.

Mouse! C'mon man, Advanced meds Alano/Leestma to Priva/Dugan gets you 2100 cr/ton, single jump.

 

[Faded Glory]

Yes, BH will still help. It's just that we're in boom, so trade gets double impact. So BH if that's your thing, otherwise, trade, then missions.

No, bounty hunting isn't particularly my thing, certainly not bounty farming...

I'm transferring my Python down, so I'll do some mission running, or even perhaps your advanced meds route. Will probably be tomorrow now though, Drunks of Sol are calling me...

 

[Abil Midena]

Well, it looks like we might avoid outbreak, since the Adv meds are now selling at only 1200 cr/ton profit.

I'm pretty sure the tick for today has dropped, and...

Priva at 50.6. This has hovered despite me running ~ 7 missions each day. It's been at, starting on 4/12, 50.1, 50.3, 50.9, and 50.6 today. Clearly missions are not having much of an effect vs the buffed bounties. I'm going to track bounty turn ins posted on the news feed to see what they are.
Raurugba at 61.9.
Yota at 56.8.

I ran 7 more missions today out of Priva. If inf still doesn't move, I'm going to swap to bounties and see what happens.

 

[Faded Glory]

Well, it looks like we might avoid outbreak, since the Adv meds are now selling at only 1200 cr/ton profit.

I'm pretty sure the tick for today has dropped, and...

Priva at 50.6. This has hovered despite me running ~ 7 missions each day. It's been at, starting on 4/12, 50.1, 50.3, 50.9, and 50.6 today. Clearly missions are not having much of an effect vs the buffed bounties. I'm going to track bounty turn ins posted on the news feed to see what they are.
Raurugba at 61.9.
Yota at 56.8.

I ran 7 more missions today out of Priva. If inf still doesn't move, I'm going to swap to bounties and see what happens.

Progress does seem to be a bit glacial... One percent a day.

I ran a few missions for Bcats last night from Raurugba and Priva, and I'll try to do a few more today, but the board isn't very exciting, so I did try a teeny bit of bounty farming. Went to Yota, as I'm getting close to hostile with one faction in Raurugba. The nav beacon wasn't really spawning much, so just managed 100K in half an hour.

And I've noticed that NPCs are now quite prone to high waking out. Sad really that FD go down the route of trying to make NPCs behave like players in the name of reality. It may be more realistic, but it sure doesn't make it fun.

 

[Mouse]

I've been ingame an hour here or there this week running trade missions. Though may not be on at all either tomorrow or Monday when I transfer data and swap my main drive from 2 TB to 5

 

[Faded Glory]

Quick question for Abil...

I am getting close to hostile with the Raurugba Purple Cartel from the bounty farming. I'd prefer not to be hostile, so there are a few low level missions I could run for them to get back to unfriendly or neutral (so I can keep destroying their wanted ships if necessary). The problem is, I don't want to run missions for them if it negatively impacts Bcats influence.

Now, I don't think it would as they are an anarchy faction and at war with an Empire group, but we are talking BGS here... What do you think?

 

[Abil Midena]

I've been ingame an hour here or there this week running trade missions. Though may not be on at all either tomorrow or Monday when I transfer data and swap my main drive from 2 TB to 5

SSD is the way, the truth, and the light.

Quick question for Abil...

I am getting close to hostile with the Raurugba Purple Cartel from the bounty farming. I'd prefer not to be hostile, so there are a few low level missions I could run for them to get back to unfriendly or neutral (so I can keep destroying their wanted ships if necessary). The problem is, I don't want to run missions for them if it negatively impacts Bcats influence.

Now, I don't think it would as they are an anarchy faction and at war with an Empire group, but we are talking BGS here... What do you think?

Doing missions for another faction in a BCat system hurts the BCats, since that faction will gain inf from you doing those missions. That inf has to come from somewhere, and the highest inf faction is where most will come from. However, doing a couple missions to bring you back off of hostile is worth it, if it will let you keep operating for the BCats in that system. In the long run, you'll do more for the Cats by staying non hostile to the others and therefore being able to do more for the Cats.

 

[Abil Midena]

Faded, did you turn in any bounties for the Cats in Priva yesterday or early today? We're up 2.6% there, upto 53.2. I only did missions there is why I ask.

Also, we're at war again in HR 2283. Unintended consequence of inf moving around without us doing anything. Since we wanted to get out of HR 2283 anyway, we should fight in the war in HR 2283 AGAINST the BCats, and for the HR 2283 Boys. This is the easiest way to lower our inf there. Once our inf gets to 1%, we can chill and just keep it at 1%. That should end the war after 3 days and send us into retreat from 2283. That will take 5 days and we need to keep it <2.5% the whole time for the retreat to succeed.

Also this means that only bounties will improve our inf in our other systems.

I have no clue why we didn't see 'war pending' for 3 days before the war started. BGS bugged I think.

 

[Faded Glory]

Faded, did you turn in any bounties for the Cats in Priva yesterday or early today? We're up 2.6% there, upto 53.2. I only did missions there is why I ask.

Also, we're at war again in HR 2283. Unintended consequence of inf moving around without us doing anything. Since we wanted to get out of HR 2283 anyway, we should fight in the war in HR 2283 AGAINST the BCats, and for the HR 2283 Boys. This is the easiest way to lower our inf there. Once our inf gets to 1%, we can chill and just keep it at 1%. That should end the war after 3 days and send us into retreat from 2283. That will take 5 days and we need to keep it <2.5% the whole time for the retreat to succeed.

Also this means that only bounties will improve our inf in our other systems.

I have no clue why we didn't see 'war pending' for 3 days before the war started. BGS bugged I think.

CZ has spawned in the region of HR 2283 6 / Euler Hub.

As mentioned previously, I suck in CZ's, so I may try to keep upping Bcats in the other systems, but will pop over and try to help out at some point.

On a positive note, I just did a delivery mission for the faction in Raurugba that I was trying to up my rep with by delivering personal weapons to HR 2283 Boys, so that should help at both ends.

 

[Mouse]

Wish I could afford a 5 TB SSD My operating System is on a 200 Gig one ^,^

 

[Faded Glory]

Well, we're up in Yota to 59%, that's a 3 point increase... I did 600k bounties yesterday evening, but based on past activity, that cannot be the reason we went up so much.

In Raurugba we are now at 55% down from 61%. It really doesn't seem right, I did a couple of missions for a different faction just to up my rep with them, but it wasn't that because their influence is down too. That said a couple of the Empire factions are up, I haven't tracked how much, so I presume there are other players coming in doing Empire related stuff? And that is fine, but I'm wondering if we'll manage to stabilize Raurugba at a decent level...

Haven't been to Priva yet.

So I don't know if this is working as intended or whether the BGS is messed up. Possibly trying to maintain controlling status in three systems is a bit much for only a few players...

Edit: And in Priva down from 50% to 49%.

 

[Abil Midena]

The problem now is we're Independent. Think about if we were Empire in Priva. Anyone cashing in an Empire bounty, we'd get an equal cut with the other Empire factions. Not much impact. But as Independent, only the Empire factions get the boost, so we get screwed. That's not even the worst part.

The worst part is, those cashing Fed/Emp bounties HAVE NO CLUE what that does to the BGS. All they care about is cash and rep so they can unlock a ship. That's the part I find hard to swallow.

Anyway, I did some CZ work in 2283 this morning, so that should push us down in 2283.

 

[Faded Glory]

The problem now is we're Independent. Think about if we were Empire in Priva. Anyone cashing in an Empire bounty, we'd get an equal cut with the other Empire factions. Not much impact. But as Independent, only the Empire factions get the boost, so we get screwed. That's not even the worst part.

The worst part is, those cashing Fed/Emp bounties HAVE NO CLUE what that does to the BGS. All they care about is cash and rep so they can unlock a ship. That's the part I find hard to swallow.

Anyway, I did some CZ work in 2283 this morning, so that should push us down in 2283.

Yes, I sort of understand that much, and while I have no issue with other players using those systems, I can see that it is a fundamental problem with the BGS that random, unintended player actions can mess up what a player faction is trying to do. Don't really know that there's a solution to that, I mean Raurugba and Yota only have tens of players visiting in any given 24 hours. And I'd have no issue either were players actively working against Bcats, but I really doubt that is the case.

I've done a couple of missions today, and will probably do a few more later, but it doesn't really seem to be helping influence wise. It's a bit of a crude mechanic really that due to pretty much random movements Bcats has expanded way beyond what the players with an interest in the faction can manage.

Still, it's only a game... (May try to pop over to the CZ, but as I said, I'm not really keen on CZ's, and don't have the ship that I would want to use handy.)

 

[Abil Midena]

Don't forget, since we're now at war in 2283, we can only move inf in Priva, Raur, Yota, etc by handing in bounties.

And remember that expanding out of Priva was through no action of our own (or at least mine). If successful, once we get out of HR and Batah, someone needs to actively keep inf below the 75% mark to prevent expansion. Although, the way it looks now, that won't be a problem.

 

[Faded Glory]

Don't forget, since we're now at war in 2283, we can only move inf in Priva, Raur, Yota, etc by handing in bounties.

And remember that expanding out of Priva was through no action of our own (or at least mine). If successful, once we get out of HR and Batah, someone needs to actively keep inf below the 75% mark to prevent expansion. Although, the way it looks now, that won't be a problem.

Well, I can carry on bounty farming a bit then, and yes, I know it was unintentional that we expanded, that was kind of my point...

 

[Abil Midena]

Well, there's a lot more CZ's in 2283 today. Although my efforts to lower our inf there don't seem to be having much effect. 2.2M more in war bonds for the 2283 Boys, so let's see if that helps. They were offering a 'massacre BCat ships in CZ' mission to kill 81 ships...payout was 12M, but I was logging off.

Also, FD is now looking into the BGS 'irregularities', as posted in the BGS thread. Hopefully, that turns something up.

 

[Faded Glory]

Also, FD is now looking into the BGS 'irregularities', as posted in the BGS thread. Hopefully, that turns something up.

I'll be very happy to hear that the BGS isn't working quite right...

By the way, I did an assassination mission for Bcats from Raurugba. Should that affect their influence as it involves shooting things?

RANT
I get that non combat stuff doesn't do anything for influence when the faction is at war somewhere (although I think that's daft, but heh, who cares what I think ), but it severely limits the ability to try and affect influence, and IMO makes the BGS a far less sophisticated and interesting mechanic.
/RANT

 

[Abil Midena]

I'll be very happy to hear that the BGS isn't working quite right...

By the way, I did an assassination mission for Bcats from Raurugba. Should that affect their influence as it involves shooting things?

RANT
I get that non combat stuff doesn't do anything for influence when the faction is at war somewhere (although I think that's daft, but heh, who cares what I think ), but it severely limits the ability to try and affect influence, and IMO makes the BGS a far less sophisticated and interesting mechanic.
/RANT

Me too.

I have not proven assassination missions help during war/none state, but in theory, since it's a combat action, yes, it should help in Raurugba.

I agree about off system war state too. Like if we're at war in 2283, shouldn't we pay more for weaps/food/meds in our other systems starports we own? Shouldn't we offer missions to run those items to 2283, and shouldn't that help both the system of origin and 2283's war effort? Or if we don't pay more (less profit, but still player profit), shouldn't trading those items in the off systems help??

I think the BGS is simplistic because of how it keeps track and the inherent limitations with FD's server/storage architecture. I watched the video they put out on that a year or two back, and although I'm not a programmer/net/server guy, it was obvious there were a lot of limitations that would keep them from doing 'interesting' things with the BGS.

 

[SlackR]

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