BGS OPEN ONLY too

All solo actions in the game give u an advantage.
Some say cheating.
So why do the pro open arguments only count for the PPlayers ?
Why should they be able to quit the power and get an advantage by ingeneer their ships in solo and pledge again to the power ?
 
While I am all for powerplay to be in open. The BGS is a big no. There would be no point for the solo and PG people to play the game as what fuels the majority of the gameplay. Remove that and all people can do is fly around and do nothing.

It would destroy the game. It is one of the most stupidest suggesting on the forums regarding this game. The BGS is designed to be used with all the modes. Forcing it into open would do nothing but make the galaxy a more sparse and less dynamic environment.
 
Yeah, I hear ya.

Dangerous Disucssion is basically Modes of Elite now. lol.

We, of the Hotel California, blame Sandro (well we all know it's really TJ's fault..but...yeah)

OP...nah. It's doubtful that Sandro will pull the trigger on the PP option...
 
We, of the Hotel California, blame Sandro (well we all know it's really TJ's fault..but...yeah)

OP...nah. It's doubtful that Sandro will pull the trigger on the PP option...

Sandro is escalating.

Suggestion #1
Add a bonus to PP activities performed in open
Result:
Much forum salt

Suggestion #2
Make PP open only
Result:
Forum in meltdown

I'm looking forward to Suggestion #3 and the coming of the Four Horsemen.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
The entire game should be open only and should have always been open only - it's too late now because FDev haven't structured the galaxy in a way that makes it playable for all types of players. So we should have had a universe where you can hire AI wingmen as one, obvious mechanic. In 4 years you still cannot hire an AI wingman in a spacegame with spaceships. That alone really tells you all you need to know.
 
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to be honest if they remove the BGS the game would be offline and should be marketed as such. It's the login and BGS stuff which means solo still needs Internet.
 
With the launch of Squadrons, I believe that this matter should also be discussed...

Since Sandro Samarco mention "PP Open Only", I think appropriate to talk about the BGS too.

I already generated LOCKDOWN on a system playing SOLO (I did a test to see if it was possible).

After confirming this, I left the BGS conflicts.

That should never be possible, it's an anomaly.

In a mode where conflicts exist between players (PP and MF Conflicts) play on SOLO or PRIVATE is like using Hacks / Exploits against your opponent.

I respect who plays in SOLO or PRIVATE (I also play on SOLO when exploring).

But when you make a decision to conflict with other players in the fight between Minor Factions or Powers of Powerplay, it is ethically indefensible act in the shadows (becoming inaccessible to the opponent pressing a button).

There it is. Once no-one changes mode and PP becomes a ghost town, the whole BGS can be sacrificed in the same way. Then we can move onto other clever ideas. High-waking cancels your mission payouts. Firing weapons while reversing causes your cargo to disappear. Exploration data is lost unless playing continuously in Open. Engineering materials can only be scooped up in Open.

There are some who will never be satisfied until they have plenty of targets to shoot at, and that's never going to happen.
 
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There it is. Once no-one changes mode and PP becomes a ghost town, the whole BGS can be sacrificed in the same way. Then we can move onto other clever ideas. High-waking cancels your mission payouts. Firing weapons while reversing causes your cargo to disappear. Exploration data is lost unless playing continuously in Open. Engineering materials can only be scooped up in Open.

There are some who will never be satisfied until they have plenty of targets to shoot at, and that's never going to happen.

That last sentence. However reasonable the arguments, however well-crafted the language, it always comes down to that.

People want targets that they can kill. Many don't even want a fair fight. They just want commander after commander to arrive with haulers so they can be slaughtered. Some people want the feeling they get, knowing they just caused someone else somewhere to be hit with a rebuy. And it is all justified because they aren't complete jerks in RL where actual consequences prevent it anyway.


When you drill down, quite a lot of humans are not nice people. Like how a post-apocalyptic scenario would go.

Apparently people have done studies relating brain size and social circle size. Small monkeys are around 5, more as the brains get bigger. Human brain sizes suggest 150. A grand total of 150 people you can care about, everyone else is just faceless targets.
(Source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/social-network-size-linked-brain-size/)
 
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Guys... when said "BGS", I mean the conflict between Minor Factions.

Example: In SOLO or PG you should not be able to change the influence or state of a Minor Faction.

But reputation and other mechanics that don't affect the conflict would continue working.

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There it is. Once no-one changes mode and PP becomes a ghost town, the whole BGS can be sacrificed in the same way. Then we can move onto other clever ideas. High-waking cancels your mission payouts. Firing weapons while reversing causes your cargo to disappear. Exploration data is lost unless playing continuously in Open. Engineering materials can only be scooped up in Open.

There are some who will never be satisfied until they have plenty of targets to shoot at, and that's never going to happen.

Strongly disagree

I remember the good times when there were spaces taken by groups like CODE.

I felt a fear when entering some systems because could be attacked.

Other systems, with concentration of peaceful groups were friendly.

There was life in the Elite universe. And most of this universe was friendly.

Who played in the early months of 2015 know this.

Gradually these emotions were lost as players took the easy way by playing in SOLO or PRIVATE GROUP.

These groups (that brought life to the OPEN) disappeared, because there was no incentive to play in an empty OPEN.

Today the OPEN only has PvPlayers. But it wasn't always so.
 
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BGS should be Open only, Solo and PG Cmdrs should not be able to chage the influence and status of factions but only be able to do missions earn money, materials and rep, and i'm being generous.
 
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