Blocking feature being abused or was it intended to be this way? FDEV?

[Jason Lightning]

and I'm close to 100% sure they'd agree. Seriously, don't worry about being accused of harassment by FDev. Not going to happen.



So here's the thing (and it's an honest question): what's the difference between someone blocking you in Open (so you never see them) and them playing in Solo or a PG (and you never see them)?

I'm not worried about being accused by FDEV, I play legitimately.

The block list works by keeping me from an instance rather than keeping the blockee from being in the same instance. If it worked by shifting the person using the block list from instances where a blocked player appeared, or made them invisible in supercruise, that would be fine, but instead I just can't instance with everyone else in that same scenario.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

The rumor that we encourage players to play the game how they want and not be dictated to by the PVP community? Yeah i can confirm that rumor.

I can also confirm I dont block anyone and Delta will play in PVP tournys. We can support PVP but also support players who want to play in open and dont want to be killed for silly reasons by silly CMDRs.

You are approaching this issue from the wrong direction. The problem is CMDRs want to play in Open and not be killed. Your solution is for them to go solo and not block..... thats a solution for you not the CMDR who wants to play in Open but not be murdered at every CG. Instead of throwing salt think outside your box. The only solution is a PVP flag on/off in Open but that would make your problem even worse.

I love rumors

So it's true? You admit it?

 

[GreyAreaUK]

And if the block system worked only that way it wouldn't really be a big deal. But it doesn't, it affects the entire instance, a pirate can't enter a player heavy instance with a blockee rather than keeping the blocker in a safe instance as needed.

Ah, I think I'm starting to understand. If a player that has you on his blocklist is in an instance with 20 other players, you won't be able to instance with those players because of his block. Gotcha. Yes, that definitely needs looking at.

 

[verminstar]

I've been in open all week and only seen one other player who was so desperate fer any human contact, I got an immediate friend request...along with the name of a well known ganker who was spotted in the colonia area that just about everyone had already blocked.

Illustrates the point perfectly however...a single griefer puts scores of unarmed explorers into another mode and literally kills open play fer those who just wanna play along with others.

That just doesn't seem right to me...we can stay in open and just block said player and everyone plays together again. The only one outta pocket so to speak is the griefer who then comes onto the forums to moan about open being a wasteland and other players shouldn't have the right to pick and choose...content should be happy being content and either put up with the anti social element or go to solo.

Open is free fer all mode in that everyone has the same choices...just because you don't like those choices doesn't give you automatic rights to dictate how or even where others play. Just as they cannot tell you what to do or how to play, you also cannot dictate yer own conditions.

Personally, I'd be reflecting that while I might be having fun, if I'm being blocked, then obviously my fun is at the cost of other people fun...id be a bit concerned about that tbh as it says more about me and my play style as it does about others ^

 

[Agony_Aunt]

People will block you there just for winning a game of Overwatch against them.

And that is how i blocked my kids! I also stopped their pocket money.

That will teach them!

 

[Marshall...]

I was always under the assumption that the Block option, only blocked comms, nothing more. If it actually blocks players, its bonkers!

 

[StevieG]

So it's true? You admit it?

Erm... I admit we support all player types and I'd rather have cmdrs in open than mobius... if thats what you are after.

 

[Jason Lightning]

I've been in open all week and only seen one other player who was so desperate fer any human contact, I got an immediate friend request...along with the name of a well known ganker who was spotted in the colonia area that just about everyone had already blocked.

Illustrates the point perfectly however...a single griefer puts scores of unarmed explorers into another mode and literally kills open play fer those who just wanna play along with others.

That just doesn't seem right to me...we can stay in open and just block said player and everyone plays together again. The only one outta pocket so to speak is the griefer who then comes onto the forums to moan about open being a wasteland and other players shouldn't have the right to pick and choose...content should be happy being content and either put up with the anti social element or go to solo.

Open is free fer all mode in that everyone has the same choices...just because you don't like those choices doesn't give you automatic rights to dictate how or even where others play. Just as they cannot tell you what to do or how to play, you also cannot dictate yer own conditions.

Personally, I'd be reflecting that while I might be having fun, if I'm being blocked, then obviously my fun is at the cost of other people fun...id be a bit concerned about that tbh as it says more about me and my play style as it does about others ^

If all these explorers are able to share this rumor so fast and block the griefer, why don't they just form a private group?

 

[GreyAreaUK]

I was always under the assumption that the Block option, only blocked comms, nothing more. If it actually blocks players, its bonkers!

No, it's sensible, it's just that implementing it in a way that isn't open to misuse (or unintended side effects) is non-trivial. As it stands it's less than perfect and can severely inconvenience genuine RP'ing pirates (the bulk of whom aren't going to destroy you simply because you're a hollow rectangle)

 

[Jockey79]

The only solution is a PVP flag on/off in Open but that would make your problem even worse.

Open PvE mode?
Remove NPC / human ID (hollow box) from the scanner?

There are other options to aid people using open without pvp combat, not just the pvp flag idea

 

[Jason Lightning]

Ah, I think I'm starting to understand. If a player that has you on his blocklist is in an instance with 20 other players, you won't be able to instance with those players because of his block. Gotcha. Yes, that definitely needs looking at.

Precisely my concern, it prevents me instancing with others, all because of one player per instance.

 

[StevieG]

I've been in open all week and only seen one other player who was so desperate fer any human contact, I got an immediate friend request...along with the name of a well known ganker who was spotted in the colonia area that just about everyone had already blocked.

Illustrates the point perfectly however...a single griefer puts scores of unarmed explorers into another mode and literally kills open play fer those who just wanna play along with others.

That just doesn't seem right to me...we can stay in open and just block said player and everyone plays together again. The only one outta pocket so to speak is the griefer who then comes onto the forums to moan about open being a wasteland and other players shouldn't have the right to pick and choose...content should be happy being content and either put up with the anti social element or go to solo.

Open is free fer all mode in that everyone has the same choices...just because you don't like those choices doesn't give you automatic rights to dictate how or even where others play. Just as they cannot tell you what to do or how to play, you also cannot dictate yer own conditions.

Personally, I'd be reflecting that while I might be having fun, if I'm being blocked, then obviously my fun is at the cost of other people fun...id be a bit concerned about that tbh as it says more about me and my play style as it does about others ^

Totally agree. Lets make Open great again!

 

[shadragon]

Why is it a bad thing? If someone doesn't want to instance with you, then they can block you and be less likely to instance with you. In return, you are MORE LIKELY then to be instanced with someone who is happy to share an instance with you.

Seems like a win-win to me. Unless you annoy so many people that you end up having everyone blocking you! :O

As with all things, a small minority of players ruin the experience for many. We can't name and shame on the boards so a centralized list can't be maintained for problematic players. I do believe blocking only does comms and not instancing regardless, so it does not achieve the proper goal regardless.

Open is for those who know how to fight and run. Even if blocks did succeed in instancing blocking, someone not on your list can still ruin your day in a few minutes. Don't fly in Open unless you are prepared to lose your ship. If you do fly in Open, you must accept the risks.

 

[StevieG]

If all these explorers are able to share this rumor so fast and block the griefer, why don't they just form a private group?

LOL again try stepping outside of your box. They dont want to be in a private group lol can you let that sink in?

 

[EUS]

This is crazy.
People act like complete morons, then come whining to the forums because no one puts up with their idiocy?

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Erm... I admit we support all player types and I'd rather have cmdrs in open than mobius... if thats what you are after.

Outrageous!

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Precisely my concern, it prevents me instancing with others, all because of one player per instance.

Just thinking about it now, it's a really tricky one. Once a player is in an instance you can't just de-instance them (imagine having 20 other players in your instance who look like they just CL'ed as one )

 

[Jockey79]

LOL again try stepping outside of your box. They dont want to be in a private group lol can you let that sink in?

That's why I'd like an Open PvE mode, not that I think I'll ever see one - but I can dream

 

[jasonbarron]

LOL again try stepping outside of your box. They dont want to be in a private group lol can you let that sink in?

Stevie, maybe if you and your little group had instead of blocking real PvP players actually tried practicing against them you guys wouldn't have been like lambs led to slaughter in the PvP League? Just a thought.

 

[Jockey79]

Stevie, maybe if you and your little group had instead of blocking real PvP players actually tried practicing against them you guys wouldn't have been like lambs led to slaughter in the PvP League? Just a thought.

Oh, so they are not allowed to play their way and have to play your way...... riiiight.

Can anyone actually tell me what a "real PvP'er" is please?
Because surely they don't mean folks who take over engineered ships and blow up unarmed traders by any chance?
Surely a "real PvP'er" wants to find other "real PvP'er" to test themselves and their skills and set ups - something they can do in a PG