Community Event / Creation Buckyball Run A*: What do you do when a mountain is there? Move it.

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Pro-tip: Fastest way back to Sol from Sadge is:

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Use it or don't use it :D
If you plan to use this, remember to ditch the scanners for weight saving reasons. ;)
Just out of curiosity: How much worth of exploration data does one pick up on the racetrack? (using advanced discovery scanner in every system, no detailed surface scans)
 
Esvandiary: Congratulations! That is a spectacular time!

Also congrats to everybody who has finished, this is truly spectacular. You guys are truly awesome sharing hints and tips, especially regarding plotting near the core.
Cheers, I look forward to being beaten by the Gjallarhorn soon enough (after all, this time you know it's a race :D)

Speaking of sharing hints, after a couple of tests from near Sadge I think I'm definitely onto something with the multiple-of-jump-range thing.
I feel like I should make it a bit clearer than last time though:

1. Take jump distance (e.g. 30Ly)
2. Get to the highest multiple of that as you can within 1000Ly (or your intended distance) - e.g. 990Ly
3. Subtract "a bit" - I've tended to go for a few light years for long routes, so call it 985Ly
4. Look for stars at about that distance and pick one

The problem (I think) with routing normally is that the route planner sees 990Ly of jumps and goes "OK, let's do the fastest route we can for most of the way and then optimise the last bit to be the shortest jumps possible"
That last part is the problem. If the last part of the route is 95Ly and you have a jump range of 30Ly, that has to be 4 jumps. So, then it tries to optimise that route to be a set of nice short fuel-saving jumps by trying all the available stars. All hundred thousand of them. If, however, those last few jumps are also near the max jump range of the ship, it has a much easier time - there are far fewer possibilities that fit.
Step 3 is there because the other 25-odd jumps in the route won't perfectly match your jump range, they'll be just a teeny bit shorter - so if we look for routes at 990Ly we'll actually hit the exact worst case, where the route planner has to try and make lots of short jumps.

Make sense? No? Excellent. :D
 
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If you plan to use this, remember to ditch the scanners for weight saving reasons. ;)
Just out of curiosity: How much worth of exploration data does one pick up on the racetrack? (using advanced discovery scanner in every system, no detailed surface scans)
I'm interested to find this out as well (although I've entirely ruined myself as a test subject due to wandering off and doing more exploring now :D)
I honked in every system on the way here (I'll get myself tested once I'm back in inhabited space...), hopefully it'll do my balance some good!
 
Ok, go on then. I always intended to do a Sag A run at some stage, may as well do it for a BuckyBall event. Still going to be a few days before I set off though.
CMDR: Mark 'Insane' Photon
Ship: ASP
Ship name: Void Insurance
 
First things first, congratulations to everyone who made it to the core and good luck to those heading out soon.

Finally got 'Sun Runner' back from the outfitter with her new glorious Canary Yellow livery, she still has that fresh paint smell.
SunRunner.jpg

Nothing says 'Don't shoot! I'm unarmed!' quite like a bright yellow racing livery, right?

Anyway I've had those guys at the outfitter strip out all superfluous mass, no weapons, no shields even persuaded them to drop the thrusters and power distributor down a class to shave those few extra tons. I couldn't quite bring myself to drop the exploration sensors on the off chance I make it to the core, I know I'd regret not earning some credits on the return leg so I've had them transferred across from my Cobra 'Stellar Flotsam'.

SunRunnerBBRA.jpg

Still, with an A3 FSD and an A3 scoop I get 23ly range and can fill from empty in 22 seconds so I think its doable but I'll have to scoop pretty regularly and be wary of non scoopables, my main concern will be the durability of the Eagle's paper thin hull so I'll definitely be packing my lead lined underwear for the run.

So next step will be a few training runs, I'll get a few 1kly trips from Galileo down and see how she performs
 
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I am officially less than 1000 LY from Sag A! I hear this is the really fun part of the race. I'm rather excited. ;-) Cheron finished a few hours ago, but we'll worry about posting his proof when I post mine.
Entry for Run #3:
CMDR: Anuranium
Ship: Anaconda (modificus maximus)
Ship name: Gjallarhorn
I salute your insanity good sir.

Nothing says 'Don't shoot! I'm unarmed!' quite like a bright yellow racing livery, right?

Still, with an A3 FSD and an A3 scoop I get 23ly range and can fill from empty in 22 seconds so I think its doable but I'll have to scoop pretty regularly and be wary of non scoopables, my main concern will be the durability of the Eagle's paper thin hull so I'll definitely be packing my lead lined underwear for the run.
Digging the yellow paint job. As one who has run this race with a jump range of 20 LY, I've got to say that this race becomes less about speed and more about endurance. Good luck to you!
 
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Nothing says 'Don't shoot! I'm unarmed!' quite like a bright yellow racing livery, right?

Hmmm then my orange paintjob was fitting I guess... I'm sorta armed... with beam lasers. :) Yeah I still had weapons fitted to my ship, cuz I am gonna need 'em when I come back to civilized space to rest and repair.

And also, who knows, I might run into Thargoids out there.. gonna need guns!
 
I'm interested to find this out as well (although I've entirely ruined myself as a test subject due to wandering off and doing more exploring now :D)
I honked in every system on the way here (I'll get myself tested once I'm back in inhabited space...), hopefully it'll do my balance some good!

I ruined my test too by exploring for a day before I returned, I was worried it was only going to be 3 or 4 mil.. so I made sure to first discover plenty of neutron stars in myrielk and on my return was fairly happy. as indicated in post #142.
its 36k for a neutron scan plus 18 bonus for discovery. so 40 or 50 of them gave me a nice little bonus. theres plenty about within 500ly of sadge.

got to say I admire the balls of some of you guys going in the little ships. if you can do it without a sleep. your crazy. I wouldn't even consider the run if I couldn't make it in one sitting. but then that's whats great about the bucky ball.. you get all types of nutters entering. for now Im grinding for the 6A fuel scoop like alot did so I can make a challenge on his time in a week or so ,the 6B I took didn't cut the mustard.
 
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I was just sitting here doing some sums for my next run in the Vulture....

Max range I can get from my Vulture is 20 LY.
Most ideal straight-line path to Sadge is 26,000 LY
That gives me 1,300 jumps at max range.
Assuming each jump takes 1 minute (incl FSD cooldowns etc), that is 21 hours 36 mins. non-stop jumping.

Of course, that is under best, optimal, ideal conditions and does not take into account galaxy map weirdness closer to Sadge...

Anyway.... I'm still out on the far side of the galaxy... not coming home anytime soon yet
 
I was just sitting here doing some sums for my next run in the Vulture....
Max range I can get from my Vulture is 20 LY.

is that armed to the teeth?.. gotta admire your chutzpah , gearing up to engage the thargons when you get there.
crazy.. I thought buckyball was all about less weight and speed as its timed , but I was wrong...its about getting there ready to fun up any aliens who want to invade us. kudos. ;)
 
is that armed to the teeth?.. gotta admire your chutzpah , gearing up to engage the thargons when you get there.
crazy.. I thought buckyball was all about less weight and speed as its timed , but I was wrong...its about getting there ready to fun up any aliens who want to invade us. kudos. ;)

Hahaha no, 20 LY is stripped bare, no weapons if I remember right. Armed for combat, the Vulture has about an 17.xx LY range. Well for me anyway. I don't really need A-class shields on the Vulture cuz I don't get hit that often :D And if I do get hit to the point that my shield drops, having an A-class and a D-class difference is only a few seconds.

Yes I explore with shields. Just like I do with weapons. You never know when them Thargons will show up!

What I was thinking was dropping the weapons down from class 3 to class 2. That would save some weight and offset the reduction in range.

But yeah if I go out there with an armed Vulture my range would be 18.xx LY to 19.xx LY at best.

ps: Pointless to have an A-class life support too. 25 mins won't do a damn thing for you when you're 15,000 LY from the nearest station. All it does is make you really sad for 25 mins that you're gonna die. Might as well go quickly with a D-class 7m 30s one.... :D
 
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ps: Pointless to have an A-class life support too. 25 mins won't do a damn thing for you when you're 15,000 LY from the nearest station. All it does is make you really sad for 25 mins that you're gonna die. Might as well go quickly with a D-class 7m 30s one.... :D

your a BB veteran Fox, and looking back over your results .. have you run all the races with A class or heavy modules on with weapons? I think Ez needs to make a separate class for you in the results where youd come top all the time for shear determination to not give yourself the best chance of a good time. I love you.
 
your a BB veteran Fox, and looking back over your results .. have you run all the races with A class or heavy modules on with weapons? I think Ez needs to make a separate class for you in the results where youd come top all the time for shear determination to not give yourself the best chance of a good time. I love you.

Haha not all. Depends on the route and the "safety" of that route. Some races I ran stripped. Some with weapons shields.

There were some other players who ran with a T6 with 100 tons of beer, and there's a screenshot to prove it too.

So yeah we have all kinds in Buckyballs. That's what makes it fun :D

Personally, getting my time listed on the board is good enough (as long as it's not last. Z usually takes that spot hahaha). Getting to the top is just a bonus to me.
 
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i am pretty sure i will take the last spot on the leaderboard this time :)

about 6k LY out from SOL i think i will arrive on the weekend ^^

admiring the attention span of anyone who does the run in one sitting, i have too many other games to play and a day job to attend aswell...
 
i am pretty sure i will take the last spot on the leaderboard this time :)

Hahaha the beauty of this particular Buckyball is that, there is technically no "last" place... it's not a "race" per se, more like a record-book. A year or three down the road, someone might finally stumble into Sag A* and then find this thread, and submit their time. That time could be weeks, months even.

For other Buckyballs, yes... they are races and people are jostling NOT to be last at the very least hahahah.

Who knows, a year or three down the road, FD might actually release the Krait, Mamba, Boa, etc ships and I'm thinking the Boa could have a large jump range... Mamba could too... the board will be updated with possibly the same people but flying these new ships to "test" their times...
 
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Does anyone know of a good way of making a map of your route? I kept Slopey's flight log running for my entire trip, so I have every jump logged to the second, I' love to see a flight-path through the galaxy. It wouldn't be exactly straight though:)
 
Congratulations CMDR Alot! Wow, the first to get there in less than 12 hours is a special benchmark I think.

So for the moment at least, the fastest ship in the galaxy is called Big Bird! :D

i am pretty sure i will take the last spot on the leaderboard this time :)
There's definitely no such thing as last place in this particular leaderboard, as far as I'm concerned it's a list of winners.

On the other hand, I suspect that my wife considers it to be a list of losers, but who cares - at least she's not bothered about me spending 12-14 hours on the pc next weekend attempting to join you all! :)

about 6k LY out from SOL i think i will arrive on the weekend ^^
admiring the attention span of anyone who does the run in one sitting, i have too many other games to play and a day job to attend aswell...
I hope to be making my run next Saturday, maybe we'll arrive together!

As I've mentioned before, my run will need to be an "all-nighter" rather than a full day run, if I've any chance of making it in one go. So I've got to admit, I'm not 100% sure that I can stay awake for it.

@Robinjb: If you need an extra boost trying to get that A6 scoop, do your grinding using the community goals. I'm currently sitting in the top 15% of the HR 706 community goal, having spent the weekend bounty hunting and the bonus is going to be very welcome – especially if the CG hits it's final tier today. (The reward for top 15% is currently 8M Cr, and it'll likely be 12-16M Cr if tier 4 is achieved). I'm not fast enough / dedicated enough to get close to the top 5%, but I've cashed in 12M in bounties over the weekend so with the bonus I've actually got a chance to afford that A6 scoop after all now. :)

If I do manage to save up enough then as far as I'm concerned The Nomad has been officially sponsored by Princess Arissa for BBRA*! :D
 
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Does anyone know of a good way of making a map of your route? I kept Slopey's flight log running for my entire trip, so I have every jump logged to the second, I' love to see a flight-path through the galaxy. It wouldn't be exactly straight though:)
Is that Slopey's BPC? Does that do flight logging too? I had no idea... I'll have to do the same on future runs!

Sadly I don't know of a good way of mapping your route, other than hiring Raiko to sit on the Galaxy Map recording your position every 30 seconds or so and merge the screenshots together at the end :D
 
Is that Slopey's BPC? Does that do flight logging too? I had no idea... I'll have to do the same on future runs!

Sadly I don't know of a good way of mapping your route, other than hiring Raiko to sit on the Galaxy Map recording your position every 30 seconds or so and merge the screenshots together at the end :D

It does a great job, but only tracks jumps into systems, not docking. It is still very useful for remembering where you've been. I use it entirely for the flight log and system note-taking functions; very rarely for trading.

You can also make your own ship's computer random banter which is fun. Mine keeps asking me if I want another gin & tonic.

I'm hoping one day when there is an API I can put my flight log in and see my complete path through the galaxy - my flight log is continuous back to 31st Jan 2015.
 
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