OK, this could get fairly involved so I apologise up front. Also, I have 7000+ hours of ED and am pretty familiar with how BGS works, so this isnt a noob question, I kinda understand what I am talking about.
Pleasantries over.
For the last 5 days I have been working on and monitoring a dozen systems on the edge of the bubble. My goal is to calibrate my BGS activity and understand how to be most efficient. Therefore, I have chosen these 12 systems as they have extremely low traffic (less than 1 ship per 24) and therefore I can be reasonably sure that any changes to influence in these systems is due to my activity.
Each day, I plan an execute a set of transaction (trades, missions, combat, star data sales etc...) and then monitor the results after the daily tick/wripple has occurred.... or at least that was my plan.
However, of my 12 systems, I only ever see updates to approx 30-40%. The remaining system (which vary on a day by day basis) appear to get missed by the daily tick, in these system all faction states and influence values remain unchanged regardless (I will address what I mean by how much below) of how much activity I have undertaken in that system. As an example:
System a) population L (14mil)
Day 1: 8 * 1m cr donations to CF in None State during one docking session - data updated correctly
Day 2: 1 * 1m cr donation to CF in None State during one docking session - data updated correctly
Day 3: 4 * 1m cr donations to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
System b) population M (125k)
Day 1: 11 * supply (industry needs) missions to CF in Famine State all completed during one docking session - data updated correctly
Day 2: sale of 270t (in batches of 10t) basic meds (low demand / medium profit) to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
Day 3: sale of 750t (in batches of 50t) mixture of 8 commities (all high demand / medium profit) to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
Day 4: sale of 12 low value star systems data and 1 donation of 1m cr to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
I have 12 examples of this, not a single system has updated consistently every day. When I say 'system data not updated' I mean none of the faction influences in that system has changed and none of the state for any of the factions changed. And when I say consistently, I am varying the activities I am undertaking, but there seems to be no pattern of why/when a system will be ignored and when it will be updated.
I have tried to consider that there may be a minimum activity threshold against which the BGS tick engine ignores systems (e.g. if insufficient activity has occurred to generate 1% influence change; or if less than 3 docking events has occurs then it may consider the system is not busy and so skips over it for BGS calculation performance reasons). However, my data is inconsistent with this - some days a system that has only had 1.1% influence change resulting from a single transaction and single docking session gets updated, but during the same day a system that had 3500t of multiple commodities sold during 5 docking sessions (visits) does not get updated.
I am calling this a bug, because, even after a system has not been updated for a day or two, when it does eventually update, it appears to ignore all activity that occurred during the days when it did not calculate.... hence, BGS Influence activity is being lost and therefore factions are not correctly reflecting the activity that is being applied to them. I can only guess that this is being repeated across all systems.
And yes, I have been very careful to ensure that the activities I am applying to systems will result in an influence change (e.g. I am not selling during combat, or doing combat during elections etc....). And yes, I have waiting a whole 24 hours after the tick (usually 4pm for me here) to see if anything would change, but it didnt.
Anyone got any thoughts? I am loath to post this to FDEV support as a) I'm not sure that they understand BGS well enough; b) I would need to write up a significant volume of data in order to explain and provide the evidence which I would guess they would demand before even considering to look into it.
Pleasantries over.
For the last 5 days I have been working on and monitoring a dozen systems on the edge of the bubble. My goal is to calibrate my BGS activity and understand how to be most efficient. Therefore, I have chosen these 12 systems as they have extremely low traffic (less than 1 ship per 24) and therefore I can be reasonably sure that any changes to influence in these systems is due to my activity.
Each day, I plan an execute a set of transaction (trades, missions, combat, star data sales etc...) and then monitor the results after the daily tick/wripple has occurred.... or at least that was my plan.
However, of my 12 systems, I only ever see updates to approx 30-40%. The remaining system (which vary on a day by day basis) appear to get missed by the daily tick, in these system all faction states and influence values remain unchanged regardless (I will address what I mean by how much below) of how much activity I have undertaken in that system. As an example:
System a) population L (14mil)
Day 1: 8 * 1m cr donations to CF in None State during one docking session - data updated correctly
Day 2: 1 * 1m cr donation to CF in None State during one docking session - data updated correctly
Day 3: 4 * 1m cr donations to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
System b) population M (125k)
Day 1: 11 * supply (industry needs) missions to CF in Famine State all completed during one docking session - data updated correctly
Day 2: sale of 270t (in batches of 10t) basic meds (low demand / medium profit) to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
Day 3: sale of 750t (in batches of 50t) mixture of 8 commities (all high demand / medium profit) to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
Day 4: sale of 12 low value star systems data and 1 donation of 1m cr to CF in None State during one docking session - system data not updated
I have 12 examples of this, not a single system has updated consistently every day. When I say 'system data not updated' I mean none of the faction influences in that system has changed and none of the state for any of the factions changed. And when I say consistently, I am varying the activities I am undertaking, but there seems to be no pattern of why/when a system will be ignored and when it will be updated.
I have tried to consider that there may be a minimum activity threshold against which the BGS tick engine ignores systems (e.g. if insufficient activity has occurred to generate 1% influence change; or if less than 3 docking events has occurs then it may consider the system is not busy and so skips over it for BGS calculation performance reasons). However, my data is inconsistent with this - some days a system that has only had 1.1% influence change resulting from a single transaction and single docking session gets updated, but during the same day a system that had 3500t of multiple commodities sold during 5 docking sessions (visits) does not get updated.
I am calling this a bug, because, even after a system has not been updated for a day or two, when it does eventually update, it appears to ignore all activity that occurred during the days when it did not calculate.... hence, BGS Influence activity is being lost and therefore factions are not correctly reflecting the activity that is being applied to them. I can only guess that this is being repeated across all systems.
And yes, I have been very careful to ensure that the activities I am applying to systems will result in an influence change (e.g. I am not selling during combat, or doing combat during elections etc....). And yes, I have waiting a whole 24 hours after the tick (usually 4pm for me here) to see if anything would change, but it didnt.
Anyone got any thoughts? I am loath to post this to FDEV support as a) I'm not sure that they understand BGS well enough; b) I would need to write up a significant volume of data in order to explain and provide the evidence which I would guess they would demand before even considering to look into it.
