Elite / Frontier C64 Elite emulated on Frodo

NeoTeo · May 11, 2013

Hi Everyone.

In anticipation of Elite Dangerous I've started re-playing the C64 version of Elite on the Frodo emulator on my Mac and have got to the point of buying the energy bomb. The problem is I cannot for the life of me find a way to release it. The manual I have says it's on the C= (commodore key), but I cannot find that anywhere (I've pressed everything on that damned keyboard to brute force it but to no avail.)

Has anyone here played it (or any game that uses the C= key) on the Frodo emulator on their Mac who might be able to help?

Cheers,
Teo

synchromesh · May 14, 2013

The commodore key for Vice is Left CTRL.....Im assuming the keyboard is mapped out pretty much the same for both emulators

synchromesh · May 14, 2013

Also this page may help....Scroll down and all the keys are listed

http://www.infinite-loop.at/Power64/Documentation/Power64-ReadMe/05-Commodore_C64.html

NeoTeo · May 16, 2013

Hi Synchromesh.

Unfortunately the keyboards for Power64 and Vice don't seem to match Frodo's nor do the shortcuts (eg. to get back from a run/stop with a restore P64 suggests cmd R which on Frodo just resets the emulator)

I'd simply switch to one of those other emulators if it wasn't for the fact that I've invested quite a lot of time in my current Frodo game and have no way of importing it to the other emulators (I've been freezing and defrosting game states as the in-game save doesn't seem to work either).

Thanks anyway for your interest.

Teo

NeoTeo · Jun 9, 2013

Resolved

I figured it out and figured I'd post the answer here for future reference as I couldn't find it anywhere else.

To trigger the Energy Bomb in the Classic Elite C64 emulated on a Mac running Frodo on an Apple Bluetooth keyboard you have to press fn and delete.

Teo

Styggron · Jun 9, 2013

great to see you're playing the original Elite.
Have you played Oolite ? If not I think you will find it amazing. http://www.oolite.org/

Especially all the add ons you can put on if you wish.
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/OXP_List

NeoTeo · Jun 10, 2013

Thank you. I will take a look

Commander Mick · Nov 23, 2013

I have just downloaded the RAR file for this and got it working. The first time I ever to play the C64 version of Elite since I had to stop playing the actual C64 version that I owned back in late 80's - early 90's.

Anyway, after eventually working which buttons were used for Pitch, Roll, Fire Fore-Mounted Pulse Laser, Decrease Speed, Arming Missile or Targeting Missile and going Witch-Space/Hyper-Space.

I need to know which button to press to fire the Armed/Targeted Missile?

I need to know which button to press to use Throttle or Increase Speed?

This would be a huge help if you could tell me.

Styggron · Nov 24, 2013

Commander Mick said:
I have just downloaded the RAR file for this and got it working. The first time I ever to play the C64 version of Elite since I had to stop playing the actual C64 version that I owned back in late 80's - early 90's.

Anyway, after eventually working which buttons were used for Pitch, Roll, Fire Fore-Mounted Pulse Laser, Decrease Speed, Arming Missile or Targeting Missile and going Witch-Space/Hyper-Space.

I need to know which button to press to fire the Armed/Targeted Missile?

I need to know which button to press to use Throttle or Increase Speed?

This would be a huge help if you could tell me.

I just googled "C64 Elite manual" and it's there on the first hit Commander Mick.

Commander Mick · Nov 25, 2013

Styggron said:
I just googled "C64 Elite manual" and it's there on the first hit Commander Mick.

Ah yes, well I do know what buttons to press from the original C64 version.

M fires the missile.

And either W or + to increase speed.

But these don't work in this emulation, so I think that manual would be quite useless.

Styggron · Nov 25, 2013

Commander Mick said:
Ah yes, well I do know what buttons to press from the original C64 version.

M fires the missile.

And either W or + to increase speed.

But these don't work in this emulation, so I think that manual would be quite useless.

Gotcha. Well I tried the same emulator and the same keys that are on the manual worked so I don't know what to say Mick. I always used T to arm U to unarm and M to fire.

Commander Mick · Nov 25, 2013

Styggron said:
Gotcha. Well I tried the same emulator and the same keys that are on the manual worked so I don't know what to say Mick. I always used T to arm U to unarm and M to fire.

Okay, I might give the emulation a second look and see the keys you say work.

Just a question, we are talking about the same emulation of the original C64 version from here.....

Elite Forever - Emulations Downloads

That's the one I tried

Styggron · Nov 25, 2013

They should be the same, all Synchromesh did was package them together. You can check the frodo settings though.

Generally I use C64 Forever (www.c64forever.com) and load and configure it manually.

I can download synchromesh's version and check.

the space bar and ? does velocity. X and S is for climb and dive just like on page 17 of the C64 manual.

[EDIT] Hmmm this is interesting. The one I had downloaded previously from that site uses Win Vice. Maybe Synchromesh changed it, I'll redownload it.

[EDIT 2]Ok it *is* the same one and it uses Win Vice. Not sure why you thought it was Frodo Mick. I downloaded the exact one you did. I ran it, tried the keys they all work identically to the C64 manual as I wrote above. Also not sure where you got W and + those keys are not used in the C64 version. Time for you to revisit the manual