Modes Can we get more players into Open Play?

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
You meant to say "avoidable".

Nope. As it is not always* possible to avoid PvP.

*: always implies every single time, in any ship and loadout.

.... unless, of course, one wants to change ones gameplay to include Engineering and outfitting ones ship(s) to survive to escape when interdicted / attacked by players intent on their destruction - there's a difference between the game that Frontier provide (i.e. NPCs) and the interactions that players may provide in that regard.
 
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Private modes is the reason there is no multiplayer content in this game.
There is actually quite a bit of multiplayer activity in Private Modes.

Open is full with cmdrs, but there is nothing to do with them except killing them.
Attaboy! That's the attitude that will tempt more CMDRs to Open.

What I mean by playing with ghosts is that if we are actually playing the bgs or PP, anyone can just jump into solo to avoid confrontation, that's not how a multiplayer game should work. Its insane.
ALGOMATIC the arbiter of how multiplayers should work has spoken ladies and gentlemen!

You are going to tell me that the design is to grind pve in separate modes and at the end tally the numbers and see who wins.
Yeah, I don't like engineer based PvP either.
Its a joke for a multiplayer content and the numbers speak for themselves where PP is being used to get prismatic shields and dropped to get the next module. Noone bothers with the actual "content".
Poopieplay is crap. No argument there.

To summarize: open is full, but that doesnt stop the 3 modes ruining any multiplayer content because people can hide in solo at any inconvenience and grind from there.
Open is full, and Private Groups provide great multiplayer content because you can meet CMDRs there who are more creative than limiting player interaction to: pew pew pew.
 
Why is it always 'hiding' in solo? Its always derogative. Or pejorative. Its never, relaxing and drinking mojitos in Solo or loafing around enjoying the scenery. Its the contemptuous diatribe from open pvp that does them a dis-service. Therefore any reasonable or intelligent debate they may have is dismissed from the start.

I, personally, am kicking back in group mode enjoying a 'smoke' and a nice cup of tea. I may have occasion to indulge in a mint viscount or three. Make that four. Actually the entire packet.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Just out of curiosity why would any of you care if PP would be OPEN only activity.
You still can grind your BGS pve in private, influence it etc. PP was all about PvP, how many people here actually do PP, because almost everyone who does (all the 10 of them) wouldnt mind having it as an Open only with direct confrontation.

Would this bother anyone on these forums?
 

verminstar

Banned
I dont know whats so hard for you to comprehend.

Private modes is the reason there is no multiplayer content in this game.

Open is full with cmdrs, but there is nothing to do with them except killing them.

What I mean by playing with ghosts is that if we are actually playing the bgs or PP, anyone can just jump into solo to avoid confrontation, that's not how a multiplayer game should work. Its insane.

You are going to tell me that the design is to grind pve in separate modes and at the end tally the numbers and see who wins.
Its a joke for a multiplayer content and the numbers speak for themselves where PP is being used to get prismatic shields and dropped to get the next module. Noone bothers with the actual "content".

To summarize: open is full, but that doesnt stop the 3 modes ruining any multiplayer content because people can hide in solo at any inconvenience and grind from there.

Im not gonna tell ye anything about how the game is supposed to be at all...thats your journey and yours alone. Though it sounds to me that yer issue is with the way the game is designed because players dont create the choices, frontier does.

Ye were doin ok until yer summary when ye broad brush stroked everyone playing in solo as hiding...that is a gross misunderstanding on your part and hails back to the old line they used to use of git gud or go solo. Why cant ye just say it like it really is? Players in solo arent hiding, they just dont wanna play the game with players of a certain playstyle. Cant be bothered and hiding are two entirely different concepts...a fact that appears totally lost on you.

I suggest ye calm down and think about what ye write before actually posting it...perhaps ingest somewhat less caffeine as its coming across as hostile and humans tend not to react favourably when faced with such hostility...ironically enough, that being the core issue of the topic itself.

As fer my summary...no amount of feet stamping and pouting is gonna help yer argument so try being a part of the solution as opposed to a part of the problem...think about it ^
 
Just out of curiosity why would any of you care if PP would be OPEN only activity.
You still can grind your BGS pve in private, imfluence it etc. PP was all about PvP, how many people here actually do PP, becsuse almost everyone who does (all thd 10 of them) wouldnt mind having it as an Open only with direct confrontation.

Would this bother anyone on these forums?

Wouldn't bother me.
 
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ALGOMATIC

Banned
Why is it always 'hiding' in solo? Its always derogative. Or pejorative. Its never, relaxing and drinking mojitos in Solo or loafing around enjoying the scenery. Its the contemptuous diatribe from open pvp that does them a dis-service. Therefore any reasonable or intelligent debate they may have is dismissed from the start.

I, personally, am kicking back in group mode enjoying a 'smoke' and a nice cup of tea. I may have occasion to indulge in a mint viscount or three. Make that four. Actually the entire packet.

When you influence other's people work from private, you are hiding.

If you are just flying there with your friends, you are kicking back and I am happy that you enjoying yourself. Absolutely nothing against it.
 
Oh, I see. Thus I cannot accept any missions which may inadvertently affect someone's PP actions. Even though I am oblivious to them. Thus I must pop into open, check with all local cmdrs before i accept the mission. Righto. These 10 PP CMDRs have an awfully disproportionate influence on my game.
 

verminstar

Banned
Just out of curiosity why would any of you care if PP would be OPEN only activity.
You still can grind your BGS pve in private, influence it etc. PP was all about PvP, how many people here actually do PP, because almost everyone who does (all the 10 of them) wouldnt mind having it as an Open only with direct confrontation.

Would this bother anyone on these forums?

Not in the slightest...wouldn’t give it a second thought whatsoever ^
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Oh, I see. Thus I cannot accept any missions which may inadvertently affect someone's PP actions. Even though I am oblivious to them. Thus I must pop into open, check with all local cmdrs before i accept the mission. Righto. These 10 PP CMDRs have an awfully disproportionate influence on my game.

Thats the reason there are only 10 of them.

Let's be honest, do you actully partake in PP?
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
Not everyone enjoys direct PvP - and there is no requirement, in this game, to do so.

Ok so the current state of the game is fine with you?
You are scared/annoyed to go to Open (well maybe not you in particular but many do), and is forced to play solo/pg because gankers. Wouldn't it better if open had a purpose, shooting others had an in game purpose, its for everyones benefit.

Look, I would want more complexity in my game, but honestly I am fine with the way things are, I mean I hardly loose any credits, I dont worry about money and noone kills me unless I agree to be killed, I am not scared/annoyed to go to any mode, I am free basically.

Most complaints come from the pg/solo people about open being dangerous so I am suggesting to have content locked in open only, this way my guns wont go against you but against my in game enemy.

I think everyone wins here.
 
Nope. Never PP'd once. Not my bag. But other non PP missions accepted will affect local factions in some way. Where do I draw the line?

Im not scared of open. I just prefer co-operative play rather than confrontational play. I'm scared of losing the front into paddock hill, but in ED nothing frightens me.

I dont even shoot npcs. My combat rank is atrocious.
 
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ALGOMATIC

Banned
Nope. Never PP'd once. Not my bag. But other non PP missions accepted will affect local factions in some way. Where do I draw the line?

No, you are confusing PP with BGS. PP has specific set of activities that are not part of the faction BGS. You need to be pledged to a personnel and either undermine an enemy, or prepare/expand your pledged power.

When you undermine you kill specific npcs, not system authority.
 
Nope. Never PP'd once. Not my bag. But other non PP missions accepted will affect local factions in some way. Where do I draw the line?

Im not scared of open. I just prefer co-operative play rather than confrontational play. I'm scared of losing the front into paddock hill, but in ED nothing frightens me.

I dont even shoot npcs. My combat rank is atrocious.

There are no power play missions. You would have to go out of your way affect power play.

Now there is some Power Play stuff that is affected by the BGS, but it is tangential.
 

ALGOMATIC

Banned
I would actually expand PP even more. Imperials should sell imperial specific items in controlled systems, lile imperial shieldings (enginner material) for example. This way if you are frim the opposing power I have a reason to kill you and not let you buy this item.

This just gives a bit of a purpose to control star systems.

Maybe a topic for diferent thread.
 
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