Capybara

HeatherG

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Just a reminder to anyone that is new to the forum, photo's of modded animals are not allowed. If someone sees their post removed that was the reason.
Thanks!! :)
 
Hmm that's it,.... it's really weird but .... no comment, your forum, your rules.
Let me just say that restricting the freedom of expression and posting pictures from the game, even with unofficial mods, is fun and says a lot about the developer.
Strange because it does not in any way limit the ability to derive financial benefits from potentially new DLCs, and even extends them, creating a larger community.

But ... you can see that Frontier managers are blind or closed-minded to these arguments.

greetings
 
Hmm that's it,.... it's really weird but .... no comment, your forum, your rules.
Let me just say that restricting the freedom of expression and posting pictures from the game, even with unofficial mods, is fun and says a lot about the developer.
Strange because it does not in any way limit the ability to derive financial benefits from potentially new DLCs, and even extends them, creating a larger community.

But ... you can see that Frontier managers are blind or closed-minded to these arguments.

greetings
The reasons are not financial, Frontier does not ban mods, nor do they even cut strings with influencing modders. But if mods are publicly showen in an official forum and that mod breaks the game / saves, there will be enough small minded people who blame Frontier for that, because it can be seen as official mod support.
Plus, not all mods meet Fronter quality and if bravely seen by someone else, a bad made mod can fall back on Frontiers reputation.

Honestly, not everthing in the world is about supression and capitalism and believe it or not, except zebras nothing with Planet Zoo is black and white.
 
Yeah even take it from me, you all know just how much I try and help the modding community and how much I do but at the end of the day I still do my best to respect Frontier and their rules. We have a very good relationship right now with them and we don’t want to push on that any more!

Also love the pun at the end Linda lol
 
I love the mods. Thank god for all your hardwork.

The modding community listen to the fanbase way more than frontier does. 😅

And the quality of mods is so improved I have literally no problems adding a modded animal to my game, they look EVERY bit as real as the other imaginary in game animals. (I dont care if the behavior is copied from another species....it's making the game playable)

Well done 👏


It seems petty and jealous that they wont allow mods to be shown.


Like...on the off chance the mods look better I assume?
 
I'm not burning a bridge.


I'm having an opinion which I'm entitled too 👍

Frontier have an opinion. Don't share pictures of mods on forums...cool. Seems petty and jealous lol.


Censor me here i'll go somewhere else and talk about it...at least frontier controls the narrative on the forum they have complete control over....
 
I love the mods. Thank god for all your hardwork.

The modding community listen to the fanbase way more than frontier does. 😅

And the quality of mods is so improved I have literally no problems adding a modded animal to my game, they look EVERY bit as real as the other imaginary in game animals. (I dont care if the behavior is copied from another species....it's making the game playable)

Well done 👏


It seems petty and jealous that they wont allow mods to be shown.


Like...on the off chance the mods look better I assume?
The reasons why mods are not allowed to be shown on the official Forum were listed here from some other people. And In must say this is legitime reason because new players or players which think about buying the game could be confused.

I also must say the modding community is doing a great job but I do not know if they are Hearing more or less to the community than Frontier. Let us take the red river hog as an example There is also no playable mod at the moment.
Why we do not have all popular animals from the list was also discussed multiple times within the Forum. These are the highlights which have to be spread over different DLC. And the last DLC gave us a Lot of popular animals whereas I think the first 3 DLC were already planed from the beginnend of the game. And if we get an animal which is not so popular on the meta wishlist it is also fine in my opinion. It brings some surprising effect when the DLC comes and at the end it is the game of frontier and they have every right to bring the species they want to make. If you are unhappy about it you do not have to buy the pack. But again, most species we got last year were high ranking species on the meta wishlist.
 
The reasons why mods are not allowed to be shown on the official Forum were listed here from some other people. And In must say this is legitime reason because new players or players which think about buying the game could be confused.

I also must say the modding community is doing a great job but I do not know if they are Hearing more or less to the community than Frontier. Let us take the red river hog as an example There is also no playable mod at the moment.
Why we do not have all popular animals from the list was also discussed multiple times within the Forum. These are the highlights which have to be spread over different DLC. And the last DLC gave us a Lot of popular animals whereas I think the first 3 DLC were already planed from the beginnend of the game. And if we get an animal which is not so popular on the meta wishlist it is also fine in my opinion. It brings some surprising effect when the DLC comes and at the end it is the game of frontier and they have every right to bring the species they want to make. If you are unhappy about it you do not have to buy the pack. But again, most species we got last year were high ranking species on the meta wishlist.
I know that this thread is about the Capybara, but it is kind of surprising the RRH doesn't have a mod at this point. Not being critical of the modders, they do an awesome job, and have brought a lot of animals into sandbox that wouldn't otherwise be available at this time. It's just a notable animal to not have a mod yet.
 
I believe I recall hearing that the reason there isn't a red river hog mod is because they haven't managed to add additional hair onto the warthog/babirusa rig yet. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm certain there's a specific reason it hasn't been possible that's along those lines. I imagine something similar is going to be the case for any popular animal that hasn't gotten a mod yet.

As for modders "listening more," that's because modders don't have to contend with nearly as much quality control and external red tape as Frontier does. This isn't intended as a jab at our modding community (seriously, they do a fantastic job with what they have to work with), but they don't have to record new audio, create new animations, design and program new enrichment items, create brand new rigs as needed, create thematic props... all while working on bug fixes and trailers, and attempting to synergize all of this between the various departments involved. It should be obvious why the modders are able to churn out far more content, and thus hit on all of the biggest requests, before Frontier is able to. And I think that the contents of these last three DLC packs in particular speak volumes about how well Frontier truly is listening.
 
I'm curious to see how they will call the capybara in Spanish since they have so many different names depending on the country:

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As for modders "listening more," that's because modders don't have to contend with nearly as much quality control and external red tape as Frontier does. This isn't intended as a jab at our modding community (seriously, they do a fantastic job with what they have to work with), but they don't have to record new audio, create new animations, design and program new enrichment items, create brand new rigs as needed, create thematic props...

I guess I don't want NEW ANIMATIONS, DESIGNS, AUDIO, ENRICHMENT TOYS...

I want every cat species.

I want every seal species.

I want every bear species.

I want fossa, manatee, capybara...

And the modders are accomplishing that!

Who cares if the sloth bear doesnt sound like a sloth bear...that's insane. Don't appease those people 👏

There are MILLIONS of species on earth. Each species doesn't need UNIQUE ANIMATIONS AND AUDIO...the files couldn't even carry all that information. The game would be 600 GB. So let's not worry about that.

That would be so crazy and unnecessary.

Thank you modders for GETTING THE POINT. They get it.

Keep giving us habitat birds and aquarium species.

Hypothetically what lunatic is worried that a great blue heron mod sounds like a flamingo...put the game on mute? Play Spotify?

Why would you complain that a Amur Leopard mod has Tiger animations?! 😅
 
I'm not saying that Frontier is supposed to publish all mods. It would be reckless. But, making modderor's work easier, sharing tools, supporting in the form of documentation or just showing the most interesting mods in official site as community content (the same like blueprints), wouldn't be a bad thing, I think.
Adding some mods to the franchise trading list is also not a problem after all. I think that this game will be even more playable and will live longer. The financial aspect is also important here and I think Frontier would not lose, on the contrary, it would gain. I'm wrong?
 
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I'm curious to see how they will call the capybara in Spanish since they have so many different names depending on the country:
"capibara" would be the most neutral term. A lot of the others are local colloquial names, in the same way that Frontier picked the more neutral "cougar" rather than any of the regional ones like painter or catamount.
 
I believe I recall hearing that the reason there isn't a red river hog mod is because they haven't managed to add additional hair onto the warthog/babirusa rig yet. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm certain there's a specific reason it hasn't been possible that's along those lines. I imagine something similar is going to be the case for any popular animal that hasn't gotten a mod yet.
Red River Hog is done, it's just waiting to be released. We've added hair to many models before (Caiman for the Platypus, Babirusa for the Domestic White Pig, and some more). Took a while for us to get a Mouflon, which one would think would be a no-brainer, especially for Europeans, but nah, that took a while. We make our own rules here lol.

I'm not saying that Frontier is supposed to publish all mods. It would be reckless. But, making modderor's work easier, sharing tools, supporting in the form of documentation or just showing the most interesting mods in official site as community content (the same like blueprints), wouldn't be a bad thing, I think.
Adding some mods to the franchise trading list is also not a problem after all. I think that this game will be even more playable and will live longer. The financial aspect is also important here and I think Frontier would not lose, on the contrary, it would gain. I'm wrong?
As much as I would love an official toolkit or something, what we have right now and the progress we've made by figuring it out on our own works exceptionally well for our own purposes. Audio modding should be the next thing to be cracked, and animations seriously aren't that important. Yeah they'd help out for Gibbons or something unique like that, but we really don't need them if we're turning a Sable Antelope into a Bontebok, or a Bactrian into a Dromedary, or a Greater Flamingo into an American Flamingo.

I also must say the modding community is doing a great job but I do not know if they are Hearing more or less to the community than Frontier. Let us take the red river hog as an example There is also no playable mod at the moment.
Why we do not have all popular animals from the list was also discussed multiple times within the Forum. These are the highlights which have to be spread over different DLC. And the last DLC gave us a Lot of popular animals whereas I think the first 3 DLC were already planed from the beginnend of the game. And if we get an animal which is not so popular on the meta wishlist it is also fine in my opinion. It brings some surprising effect when the DLC comes and at the end it is the game of frontier and they have every right to bring the species they want to make. If you are unhappy about it you do not have to buy the pack. But again, most species we got last year were high ranking species on the meta wishlist.
Again, see above. The Red River hog was one of the first ones made, but we're waiting on the owner to release it :p Technically it's out there if you look hard enough though. Believe me, we know the Meta Wishlist, and we're keen on adding as much as we can. But keep in mind, we're all individual people with our own wants and likes. For example I love putting new fish in the game, but @Narwhaler loves to work on his Hoofstock. We all take different priorities, and we appreciate our community for appreciating that.

I'm not burning a bridge.


I'm having an opinion which I'm entitled too 👍

Frontier have an opinion. Don't share pictures of mods on forums...cool. Seems petty and jealous lol.


Censor me here i'll go somewhere else and talk about it...at least frontier controls the narrative on the forum they have complete control over....
It's really not petty - it's the rules. And I'm asking you, coming from, again, the person who has supported the modding community since I joined it, and the person who has released the most amount of new species, please do not instigate any further. Frontier has let us be, and we're appreciative of that. We know that they know that we're here, but we know not to annoy them with our presence or with "demands". We can't have a modding community if we bite them too hard and they take it all away from us, which they have done in the past.

I cannot enforce rules, but I encourage you to follow them. We have a good thing now, why ruin it? :p
 
But taking what is it, equals a kill the game. It is a symbiosis, every thinking person knows it. I think that Frontier team is also people who can think. I'm new, and I'm annoyed by the ignorance policy of the community of moders. Like everyone, I also have an opinion, Frontier or each user has the right to have an opinion. I hope that someday their eyes will be opened and they will notice this symbiosis and they will allow for closer cooperation. After all, they are also programmers who do the same job as modders, only they get a salary for that, modders do it as a hobby, supporting the game they like to play and love it.

regards
 
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