Cheating in Elite Dangerous

you know there is no correlation between the harshness of penalties and crime incidence levels, right?

what demotivates crime is not the harshness of the punishment, but the predictability or even inevitability of it. you are really expecting frontier handing out perma bans solely based on youtube inspection?

even ignoring any experience with 'game admin' stuff until now, you realize those will need to be really (i mean really) blatant cases. meaning majority of them will go unpunished. meaning little chance of getting caught. and this is assuming a very diligent implication by frontier.

i completely agree with your concerns but i think your strategy needs a bit of work.
You're assuming I want people banned off of youtube videos. I don't. I want people that are found to be using hacks by FDev to be banned.
 
You're assuming I want people banned off of youtube videos. I don't. I want people that are found to be using hacks by FDev to be banned.

All things considered, znort does have a point. If just Youtube where a way of proving, well anything - then, trying to leverage your arguments or any type of ban argumentation based on just some content creator's videos - can themselves be incredibly disinformationalized.

There are quite a few number of videos that I could easily bring up on hand, from PVP'ers or other such players that can easily prove or disprove this type of dangerous thinking.
Besides, we as a player base can really only complain to Fdev about this, if we the players are innocent.
And, I'd be bereft to make mention of the fact that a vast majority of the large PVP and PVE communities are not.
 
All things considered, znort does have a point. If just Youtube where a way of proving, well anything - then, trying to leverage your arguments or any type of ban argumentation based on just some content creator's videos - can themselves be incredibly disinformationalized.

There are quite a few number of videos that I could easily bring up on hand, from PVP'ers or other such players that can easily prove or disprove this type of dangerous thinking.
Besides, we as a player base can really only complain to Fdev about this, if we the players are innocent.
And, I'd be bereft to make mention of the fact that the large PVP and PVE communities are not.
Youtube videos are representative of what happened from one perspective, not all perspectives. It's entirely possible that FDev's spaghetti netcode just genuinely resulted in no damage being calculated on one side. We've all seen ships vanish from instances with no wake marker, right?

That being said, if I pull a Conda and shoot it with 3 friends for 5 minutes, it's not unreasonable to expect it to lose shields. If it doesn't lose shields, that is suspicious enough to warrant a report to FDev to have them check it out. I assume that they have logs and other information not available to me that they can use to see whether it was legit or not. That's what I'm talking about.
 
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What other online game allows you to cheat and get caught 3 ****ing times before you eat a perma, especially an online MMO? If Elite were a single player game, this is a very different conversation, but it isn't and this has implications for every single play style.
I'm a self-induced permabanned solo player then. ;)

Sry, just kidding. In fact I'm a strict solo player, never using any cheats (which would feel like shooting into my knees, I don't and never did even combat logging in solo, even though no one would care) and could easily say "so what, why bother?"

Please trust me, I'm not mischievous here. I wholeheartedly support your campaign as these are things that at first destroy the integrity of a game, then its reputation - and at last its future, including any financial income for the devs and thus any future development. So it's nothing I would easily shrug away.

The devs urgently need to wake up and show some visible strong action, not just announcements or non-binding memoranda of understanding.

Unfortunately, I also see the desperate situation they (and we) are in, as znôrt demonstrates a few posts above.
 
Banned form game forever, no second chances when FD knows a client-side cheat is used.
The pu ss yfooting around with warnings, and solo banning is idiotic. Hit the wallets.
To be clear, I'm not talking about people taking advantage of in game exploits. If FD knows about holes, but doesn't patch them, that's on FD.
 
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