When one Chaff expires, you fire another from a second chaff module while the first is on cooldown.
You can have Chaff permanently with 2 Chaff launchers.
Clipper vs Vulture.
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When one Chaff expires, you fire another from a second chaff module while the first is on cooldown.
You can have Chaff permanently with 2 Chaff launchers.
Personally, I prefer gimballs, mostly 'cuz it saves me from having to aim while trying to evade enemy fire ... and I'm lazy. Better for subsystem targeting too. Pounding on hulls is inefficient. Having flown a Viper for... like, 3 months... I've gotten pretty good at managing power use, so that's no issue for me.
And, yeah, I'll ram you if you chaff on me, regardless of which ship I'm in.
And, yeah, I'll ram you if you chaff on me, regardless of which ship I'm in.
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Not if you know what you're doing. >.>
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I've never had to take on a CMDR piloted Clipper in my Vulture, but I would probably just run instead.
The Vulture is a nice ship, a good heavy fighter with two scary hard points, heavy shields, and some of the best maneuverability in the game... But once that shield goes down, you are in trouble because they take forever and a day to recharge. Also, their A4 power supply really limits you on what you can arm yourself with, gimballed pulse lasers being the most common equipment I've noticed. I've toyed with fixed lasers, but in order to keep out of big scary firing arcs on larger ships, you really can't waste time lining up shots with fixed lasers. Also, thanks to the power limit, it really limits you on what kind of utilities you can equip.
At the end of the day, it comes down to who is the better pilot and who has the better equipment, but if someone was placing bets on two similarly skilled pilots trying to kill each other in a Clipper vs. a Vulture, I'm putting my money on the Clipper.
The Vulture is a nice ship, a good heavy fighter with two scary hard points, heavy shields, and some of the best maneuverability in the game... But once that shield goes down, you are in trouble because they take forever and a day to recharge. Also, their A4 power supply really limits you on what you can arm yourself with, gimballed pulse lasers being the most common equipment I've noticed. I've toyed with fixed lasers, but in order to keep out of big scary firing arcs on larger ships, you really can't waste time lining up shots with fixed lasers. Also, thanks to the power limit, it really limits you on what kind of utilities you can equip.
At the end of the day, it comes down to who is the better pilot and who has the better equipment, but if someone was placing bets on two similarly skilled pilots trying to kill each other in a Clipper vs. a Vulture, I'm putting my money on the Clipper.
With the exception of scanners and life support everything else can be A rated on the vulture. Neither of which really effect a combat ship
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Think said clipper pilot met 3 no hopers. I made a clipper run in my viper with a cobra mate. So 3 vultures... must have been part of the "i deserve every ship in game" crowd.
Also with the simplicity of making money now by even getting scratches on enemies the police kill you could be in a vulture in a few days with no ability.
So it is a ship you might get surprised in if you meet someone with ability in one!! (Not flown one im just guessing it outclasses a viper).
Also with the simplicity of making money now by even getting scratches on enemies the police kill you could be in a vulture in a few days with no ability.
So it is a ship you might get surprised in if you meet someone with ability in one!! (Not flown one im just guessing it outclasses a viper).
LOL, I see a constant eliteism (haha) about gimballed weapons too. I think people like to prove they can aim. There's more to gimbals than them aiming themselves, it allows you to shoot from angles you can't with fixed. And you can always just unlock the target if you need to prove what a man you are.
you can with power management - only life support and scanner is not a-class in mine.
as for the gimballed vs fixed, i find that flying with assist-off is necessary in order to use fixed weapons, and the sensitivity of the vulture makes that a bit more difficult than in other ships.
if someone does not use FA off, then one can only really use gimballed. in the vulture, pulse or burst (my choice). tried fragment but the 30 ammo clip makes going back and forth a necessity even if i keep it against anacondas only.
Too dependent on situation and player skill.
I've taken out two CMDR Vultures at the same, in another Vulture, without taking hull damage. I'v also fought off more than one Clipper in a Vulture including a case where I reduced one to ~30% armor without taking a single hit from it...obviously it was faster though.
I've used fixed weapons from the beginning.
I consider it borderline suicidal.
Yep.
Just had some play with a clipper, and you just can keep circling and circling without being hit. There is no way a clipper can keep up with a lateral thrusting vulture. Gimballed weapons may counter that, but chaff is a female dog. It went up in smoke without taking one hit.
One pro for the clipper though, even the wreckage of a clipper looks better than a vulture
One pro for the clipper though, even the wreckage of a clipper looks better than a vulture
A good clipper owner realizes you don't have to fit all gimbled.
Very true, and every gimbaled weapon can be a fixed one any time one wishes.
However, though a good pilot of anything also realizes that his or her ship has weaknesses.
I'd like to test how much a Vulture's TOP shield can resist the 4 lasers of the Clipper, 2 of which are class 3. That's the point. My enemies got shields down in one pass, and yes, they didn't double chaff.
Looking forward to meet better pilots.
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That's about 113% power usage. What have you set on low priority?
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The Vulture doesn't appear to need the gimballed weapons; the two weapon mounts are on the upper hull, either side of the player, much like the Viper class 2 mounts.
They're fairly close together and I don't 'see' any convergence issues.
I have been using gimballed weapons and fixed (pulse and beams), and the fixed weapons appear to hit small craft like Sidewinders fine. Eagles are a bit harder, but they pop so fast you only need to land a few solid shots.
Of course the choice comes down to personal preference, but at the bleeding edge it will more likely be dictated by power needs - more power needed elsewhere, that is. Fixed weapons do use a bit less power, and you get a bit more damage.
They're fairly close together and I don't 'see' any convergence issues.
I have been using gimballed weapons and fixed (pulse and beams), and the fixed weapons appear to hit small craft like Sidewinders fine. Eagles are a bit harder, but they pop so fast you only need to land a few solid shots.
Of course the choice comes down to personal preference, but at the bleeding edge it will more likely be dictated by power needs - more power needed elsewhere, that is. Fixed weapons do use a bit less power, and you get a bit more damage.
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These guys had more lasers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sipm1fwxdRg#t=220
I didn't double chaff and that's a D class shield. It was also my second PvP encounter in the Vulture and I've gotten quite a bit more acclimated to the ship since then.
As are we all.
They do have some convergence issues against smaller craft. No where near enough for me to consider running gimbals on either hardpoint, however.
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