Cobra Mk V in-game availability?

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Elpapo said:
Its very clear that for each new ship, the timeline for "credit debut" is simply very next patch update, and Frontier clearly cant dish out those, every 3 months, as given amount of few last updates, there is one meaningfull update every 4 months or so, if not longer.
Click to expand...
a logical assumption however if that was the case then the Cobra V would have come into credit purchasing in the last patch we had a week or so back, however it didnt.

imo its another case of the slippery slope "fallacy" ending up being true. Something launches which a significant number wont be happy about but the argument "its not that bad" is used and anyone suggesting thin end of the wedge gets shot down........... then over time the stick gets larger and the carrot smaller. (stick in this case being the time in early access, the carrot being able to earn 400 ARX in game - ARX which has been massively devalued since initial inception - and the way FD did it was in the worst possible way, by increasing the ARX cost of stuff rather than being more transparent and increasing the cost of ARX which would have at least not gimped peoples existing ARX bags or the "free" ARX earning in game)

happens lots of times, not just in elite, and hell not just in gaming either.

in terms of scale Frontier are very much in the "not taking the .... too much" (imo of course) ................. but what it is they doing doing is the same practices as other more money grubbing companies some of which get lambasted on these forums however, the logic is the same, its just that at the moment the scale not as egregious however where that line gets crossed is subjective from 1 player to the next and FD are heading in the wrong direction.

1 month?, 3 months?, 6 months? or a year? and how much should a ship in EA cost £1, £5 or £10 etc (or £10,000.... but like the meme says, never go full CIG!) ............ at some point a ship in "early access" may as well be considered purchasable by out of game currency only***.


*** and no for me 400 arx a week does not negate that when something costs tens of 1000s of arx
 
Last edited:

Felix DiCestria

Felix DiCestria
For myself I will buy ships I'm purely using for exploration, and therefore not interacting with anyone. Anything which I'll be using primarily around the Bubble is for credits.
As such I have 2 Mandalays for my Main and Exploration Alt and a CbrV for my Exploration Alt.
I'm waiting for it to go Credits for my Main and Bubble Alt.
Hopefully it will release with the next FU...
 

Rufus Bray

R
[VR] Mad Mike said:
buying ships in EA in elite is a bit like buying new nvidia GPUs..... IF you are gonna buy one you may as well buy it day 1.
Click to expand...
I agree and that’s why I won’t purchase the Corsair for ARX, ever (see post #17). Missed opportunity for FDev but their decision. I guess they’re still making a ton of money from the EA (E probably stands for “Extended period” here). Fine, I’m old enough to remain patient. Will get both ships in game eventually, the mkV in a couple months, the Corsair in a couple years…
 

zimms

zimms
Rufus Bray said:
I agree and that’s why I won’t purchase the Corsair for ARX, ever (see post #17). Missed opportunity for FDev but their decision. I guess they’re still making a ton of money from the EA (E probably stands for “Extended period” here). Fine, I’m old enough to remain patient. Will get both ships in game eventually, the mkV in a couple months, the Corsair in a couple years…
Click to expand...
Have Frontier actually ever specifically said the Cobra MkV would be available just for credits at some point? The 'E' might also stand for "Exclusive". 😉
 

Jinx Chrome

Jinx Chrome
Rufus Bray said:
I agree and that’s why I won’t purchase the Corsair for ARX, ever (see post #17). Missed opportunity for FDev but their decision. I guess they’re still making a ton of money from the EA (E probably stands for “Extended period” here). Fine, I’m old enough to remain patient. Will get both ships in game eventually, the mkV in a couple months, the Corsair in a couple years…
Click to expand...
Now they are trying out a longer early access period. At the end of the day, the release cycle will balance itself out. There's an optimum of financial influx over time and maybe FDev is going to realise that perhaps 3, 4 or 6 months is ideal and they will release new ships in that cycle. 'Missed opportunity for FDev'? They are not dependent on you or me as a single entity but on a large player base.
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
zimms said:
Have Frontier actually ever specifically said the Cobra MkV would be available just for credits at some point?
Click to expand...
Not to my knowledge (which is very limited, I admit), but, in my mormal & caring fashion, to me it doesn't matter, I bought it for Arx anyway... (but am limiting it to my main active account nowadays, since the real price of doing so on all my accounts would be prohibitive in my view)
Still cheaper to buy each new ship when they arrive than going down a subscription route - particularly when having more than one active account!
 

amigacooke

amigacooke
Jinx Chrome said:
Now they are trying out a longer early access period. At the end of the day, the release cycle will balance itself out. There's an optimum of financial influx over time and maybe FDev is going to realise that perhaps 3, 4 or 6 months is ideal and they will release new ships in that cycle. 'Missed opportunity for FDev'? They are not dependent on you or me as a single entity but on a large player base.
Click to expand...
No, clearly not as I haven't given Frontier a bean since 2019. Not liable to get any more either with their recent antics.
 

Felix DiCestria

Felix DiCestria
zimms said:
Have Frontier actually ever specifically said the Cobra MkV would be available just for credits at some point? The 'E' might also stand for "Exclusive". 😉
Click to expand...
Paul stated it was in 'Early Access', that would imply a time limit. If there was any change I would expect a seperate statement, though of course they could just keep an alpha running indefinately...
Paul_Crowther said:
Greetings Commanders!

As the fires of Sol continue to flicker in the night's sky, we're here this Thursday with a brand new update for Elite Dangerous!

This update introduces a brand new ship for early access, the Cobra MK V!


Thursday 12 December Release Schedule (Times in UTC)
  • 7AM - Servers offline for maintenance
  • Cobra Mk V will be available on the store in advance of servers being online
  • 12.30PM - Servers back online and update 19.03 available
Please note these are approximate times and are subject to change.


Update Notes

Cobra Mk V
  • Added pre-built ships:
    • Cobra Mk V Stellar (33,000 Arx)
    • Cobra Mk V Standard (16,520 Arx)
Ships
  • Module storage increased from 200 → 600
  • In world holo-screen adverts now present for Cobra MK V
  • All shipyards will now stock one additional ship

Bug Fixes:
  • Fixed decals and ship IDs displaying with a border/background on some Mandalay paintjobs
  • Adjustments made to Mandalay Black Friday paintjob
  • Fixed missing hitcheck on Python Mk II Spacehawk spoiler
  • A fix has been implemented to resolve a number of issues related to carrier bartender transactions. However, transaction errors may still be encountered in some specific cases, please report any instances via the issue tracker and we will continue to investigate. https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/67143

Known Issue: Due to a technical issue the Mandalay Midnight Black paint jobs are currently unavailable on the store. Current owners may see an extra version in their library - this will be removed shortly. Midnight Black Paint jobs for the Mandalay are now available in the gamestore!
Click to expand...
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Rat Catcher said:
Still cheaper to buy each new ship when they arrive than going down a subscription route - particularly when having more than one active account!
Click to expand...

I genuinely hope FDev are satisfied with the way this is working out.

To a greater or lesser extent, they've always seemed to rely on a "let people decide how much money they want to give us" business model and that's an attitude worthy of appreciation.
 

Shurimal

Shurimal
No matter how you slice it, ~10€ every ~3 months for a new ship works out much cheaper than most subscription services. Plus if you're patient, you can wait for a sale. And you don't have to buy all the new ships—I only bought Cobra V standard (because I don't much like the Stellar ship kit or paintjob) on Easter sale, plus Planar Lime paintjob for it. Never bothered with buying any others during the EA, because while they're good and great fun, they aren't the gamechanging "must-haves". MKV is different, it isn't really gamechanging either, but it just "speaks" to me as the definitive small "rogue" ship and it's up there with Mamba as one of the best looking ships in game. And even then, I didn't bother to get it on day 1 since I was having too much fun with PII and later Mandalay as they came out of EA🙂
 

Dougie

Dougie
Shurimal said:
No matter how you slice it, ~10€ every ~3 months for a new ship works out much cheaper than most subscription services. .....
Click to expand...

... however people sometimes have multiple accounts - even me, new as I am, couldn't resist buying in the Steam sale to have an alt commander. (I have no idea how to find the time to play both - I don't know how people with more alts manage.)
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Dougie said:
... however people sometimes have multiple accounts - even me, new as I am, couldn't resist buying in the Steam sale to have an alt commander. (I have no idea how to find the time to play both - I don't know how people with more alts manage.)
Click to expand...
Koma Pahu said:
You don’t have to buy the new ship for your alt, especially if you don’t have enough time to play them!
Click to expand...
I have several alt accounts - but currently will only buy on the one most used - the others can wait! (Now that I have exhausted Arx on those accounts)
FD still get money for Arx on the main account, but no longer on the alts. The store price rises sealed that avenue off completely. So, yes, I am spending real money, but, in truth, actually less than I did before the store price increase! I win again...
 

Dougie

Dougie
Koma Pahu said:
Congrats! What’s your point?

....
Click to expand...

Just that you say €10 per 3 months - but it is €10 per alt per 3 months - that is all I am saying. You basically say it isn't very much to pay but for some people it is more than you put forward.

(I didn't buy a CmkV for my newer commander, the one for my original commander is out exploring and I wish I had not paid 33KArx for the stellar but rather half that for access would have been a better choice - as the Stellar sits in a hangar somewhere, totally useless.)
 

Shurimal

Shurimal
Dougie said:
Just that you say €10 per 3 months - but it is €10 per alt per 3 month
Click to expand...
But that's the neat thing—you don't have to buy all (or any) new ships/cosmetics for all your alts. Why does your exploration alt need a PII or T8, for example? OTOH, your main who has all the engineers unlocked and billions in bank doesn't really need a Stellar PII or Corsair (unless you really like the paintjob and ship kit), but for a new combat alt that would make a good jumpstart to skip some of the prep work and module hunting.
 

Knuttin Atoll

K
The above posts just made me realise once more how normalised the concept around alt accounts has become. I can't think of any other game I ever played or even heard of apart from Elite that makes you buy another copy of the game, just to have a second (third, fourth, etc.) save slot. And as a result, doesn't share any DLC purchased already either.
 

Kamiyoda

Kamiyoda
Knuttin Atoll said:
The above posts just made me realise once more how normalised the concept around alt accounts has become. I can't think of any other game I ever played or even heard of apart from Elite that makes you buy another copy of the game, just to have a second (third, fourth, etc.) save slot. And as a result, doesn't share any DLC purchased already either.
Click to expand...
Console Commanders don't have to do that, they just create a new profile and boot up the game.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom