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Combat Logging
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So, FD are actually looking at combat logging? This is great news!
Of course, since FD give the loophole of the 15 second delayed combat log, it seems like they'd be able to tell the difference.
I suspect that they can and that you might be referring to different instances of combat logging than they are. They have said over and over that they wait a certain amount of time before taking action on cheaters. This is probably in response to a series of disconnects from some time back. In any case, I'd trust FD's version before someone who readily admits to using a loophole to combat log. Just saying.
Indeed. I’d just about lost the will to report anymore. Guess it’s time to get back at it!
Of course it matters it's the only decision that counts in a game where players can easily choose who they play with.
Yeh, cos the alternative (people like you going around killing new players or traders at CGs with impunity) is MUUUUCH better. Mm-hm, yeh it is. lol.
When will you realise that both sides have a point? You are doing the exact same thing you are accusing the other guy of, insisting he plays by your rules, not FDs. How can you not see that?
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Whats wrong with killing traders at a CG?
Same thing that's wrong with clubbing seals?
And if you think there's nothing wrong with killing traders that don't have a chance in CGs, then why are new players off limits? Cos you have morals? Why your morals extend to one type of defenseless player but not another?
I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I'd be the first to say that under current conditions, you hit open, you 'open' yourself up to anything, however, why do you want to destroy someone that doesn't want to fight and has no chance? I just don't get that part of it and never will, but obviously at the moment, those people should play in solo.
What I'm trying to say is that by your own post of referring to only one of two categories of seal clubbing as 'ok', who's to say waht is 'ok', except every player on his own? And if every player's morality counts, how can one say that the seals don't have a point as well? This is obviously a failure of a ruleset or a design.
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Powderpanic
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So Combat logging.
How are we going to fix it?
I think education is the key
How are we going to fix it?
I think education is the key
I think it's cute that Haramir thinks FDev can't tell the difference between logging out via the menu and yanking his network cable/hitting alt-F4.
Accept that them clogging is a win for you and laugh about it, block them if you'd rather not play the video game with them again.
Here endeth the lesson.
Powderpanic
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Blocking? Na, I got more pride than to use a cheap mechanic like that.
But you are right, lets just accept that cheating is an accepted part of ED and be happy with that.
But you are right, lets just accept that cheating is an accepted part of ED and be happy with that.
This question will hardly matter when they have stiffened crime and punishement enough - combat logging will go right down because the risk of getting killed will go right down.
It's not about being happy with it, it's about accepting that it's going to happen whether you like it or not. There's no current way of preventing it.
If someone clogs on you then report them if you want, block them if you want, move on.
Having a murderhobo combat log at the first sign of trouble isn't a win, it's a loss for the bounty hunter, and a get out of jail free card (avoid rebuy) for the murderhobo, and more trouble for their victims.
Having a trader combat log at the first sign of trouble isn't a win for a pirate trying to get the cargo, it's win for the trader(avoid cargo loss and/or rebuy), and the pirate goes home empty handed.
Combat Logging is a problem. It's effectively a god mode cheat.
So saying "accept the win" is more accurately saying "accept that they cheated".
If it was possible to 100% accurately identify a combat logger from a connection error or CTD, I'd say treat them as cheaters that they are, and force them to eat a rebuy.
But it's not possible, hence my solution, which is basically stick them back where they was before, and let fate decide. Lol
It's the next best thing.
CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
Having a trader combat log at the first sign of trouble isn't a win for a pirate trying to get the cargo, it's win for the trader(avoid cargo loss and/or rebuy), and the pirate goes home empty handed.
Combat Logging is a problem. It's effectively a god mode cheat.
So saying "accept the win" is more accurately saying "accept that they cheated".
If it was possible to 100% accurately identify a combat logger from a connection error or CTD, I'd say treat them as cheaters that they are, and force them to eat a rebuy.
But it's not possible, hence my solution, which is basically stick them back where they was before, and let fate decide. Lol
It's the next best thing.
CMDR Cosmic Spacehead
Cheating is an accepted thing in ED, cash exploits, 5-1, station griefing it's all here to stay even clogging. Don't sweat it just opt out, its only a game after all you might enjoy it more if you didn't play with people who obviously wind you up.
Since combat logging is mostly a problem for those interested in PvP, FDev couldn´t care less about it.
Viewpoints are weird, aren't they? From my point of view FDev pay too much attention to PvP and not enough to the parts of the game that interest the remaining 95% of the player base.
What exactly did they do for PvP?
You need to fix the reason why people combat log if you want to reduce it:
1) The penalty for being destroyed in ED is massive compared to other MMOs (in WoW the cost of dying in PVP is negligible).
2) Introduce an Open-PVE mode - some people like interacting with other players without being forced into PVP. This will greatly reduce the problem of ganking, and therefore combat logging.
1) The penalty for being destroyed in ED is massive compared to other MMOs (in WoW the cost of dying in PVP is negligible).
2) Introduce an Open-PVE mode - some people like interacting with other players without being forced into PVP. This will greatly reduce the problem of ganking, and therefore combat logging.
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