Combat Logging

[Judz]

What do you guys consider combat logging? Alt tabbing and ending the task? Waiting the 15 seconds then exit the game? Or both?

I combat log all the time and I don't see the problem with it. I go to a CZ, I kill a ship and I log the combat details.

 

[Chris Simon]

Believe it or not it has a lot to do with combat logging. And the solo, private open conversation.

There are so many loose ends here its astonishing. We have a multiplayer game with single player activities. And the multiplayer part of the game is suffering because of it. (powerplay, BGS, Guilds thats are coming). They have a chance to adjust this stuff with the guilds that are coming in the future.

Making these changes could really pull this game together. And kill the mile wide inch deep meme.

And the solo dudes can still do their thing. So can the casuals. The BGS is not casual though. Neither is PVP. Again a lots changed, and what worked then. Wont work when they release the guilds. Its going to make it worse. Moving our own megaships around. To FIGHT OVER TERRITORY? Good lord we thing this hotel California talk is bad now? Biowaste is gonna hit the fan when they implement that. Its going to get way worse.

I think they know it, theyd have to with 5 years of the talk. And combat logging too, you cant have people logging out on others because they lose. Losses mean just as much as a win.

Its crucial they fix these things for the multiplayer aspect of the game. People that play in solo and private arent playing for everyone else. Bottom line, and they should be restricted from impacting the multiplayer experience. Because right now, solo and private have the advantage when it comes to effecting other players. There is no paper trail besides the bounty board. You can take a system without ever getting on that bounty board.

I really dont think the people fighting against this stuff really have the experience in the first place to fight against it. And if they do, they know they are taking advantage of the system. And again it includes combat logging, BGS, solo, private and open. Everything. Its hurting the multiplayer part of this game, one of the big reasons people bought this game.

Oh, I do agree with you, don't get me wrong. I just found myself not willing to add more to this debate but a snarky remark. I'm sorry I chose your post for this, it could have been anyone.

 

[Spacecat]

It's been suggested before that initiating a menu-log should simply create a "high wake" event in-game.

If FDev implemented this, nobody'd even know that anybody was menu-logging so they'd have no reason to complain about it.

Yeah, then, everybody who HW's suddenly is a "cheater".

 

[Chris Simon]

Yeah, then, everybody who HW's suddenly is a "cheater".

I've been accused of just that, anyway.
I am included on some petty KOS list, because I ran away from two FdLs in a Keelback, because, apparently, I spoiled their fun.

 

[Minonian]

I've been accused of just that, anyway.
I am included on some petty KOS list, because I ran away from two FdLs in a Keelback, because, apparently, I spoiled their fun.

No, you just give em a reason to came after you, because a "coward" who ran from "challenge" an easy prey to mess with...

 

[Ozram]

I've been accused of just that, anyway.
I am included on some petty KOS list, because I ran away from two FdLs in a Keelback, because, apparently, I spoiled their fun.

Yeah I don’t get the high wake bravado either. I guess you get extremes in all directions.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

I've been accused of just that, anyway.
I am included on some petty KOS list, because I ran away from two FdLs in a Keelback, because, apparently, I spoiled their fun.

That’s me humped then. I did the High Wake Boogie twice today at the Tranquility CG. The way I see it, them failing to melt me is a solid win for me.

 

[AutoMechanical]

FD's worst design/coding-disaster to date.......

The Hollow Square!

Make every square hollow and watch CLogging stats drop down the crapper.

From personal experience people log more on NPC's. Making both NPC's and players look the same would only cause logging to increase more then likely.

 

[relayer]

I've got three quarters of an hour in goat simulator and I unlocked the giraffe, what's your point ?.

+1

 

[AutoMechanical]

That’s me humped then. I did the High Wake Boogie twice today at the Tranquility CG. The way I see it, them failing to melt me is a solid win for me.

And if they play for anything other then explosions, denying you your transaction is a win for them. Which tbh is how it should be.

 

[relayer]

We have a multiplayer game with single player activities.

I think you have this backwards. Elite always was a single player game and is now. It has a multiplayer aspect, but that is not the focus of the game.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

I think you have this backwards. Elite always was a single player game and is now. It has a multiplayer aspect, but that is not the focus of the game.

Indeed. None of the three ranks require you to interact with another human being, much less shoot at them.

 

[Minonian]

Indeed. None of the three ranks require you to interact with another human being, much less shoot at them.

That's what CQC for but since most people interested in PVP likes easy prey, no one plays with it.

 

[Trickylion]

Ultimate solo mode
No players, no npc, just you...

 

[Asp Explorer]

Ultimate solo mode
No players, no npc, just you...

That is quite nicely simulated by having a powercut

 

[besieger]

Here is a question for all, if I made a website that with the help of a little app people ran in the background of their game would allow you to search for where CMDRs are, build heat maps of player activity etc. Would people find this useful?

 

[Asp Explorer]

Here is a question for all, if I made a website that with the help of a little app people ran in the background of their game would allow you to search for where CMDRs are, build heat maps of player activity etc. Would people find this useful?

Not for me personally, nope.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Are you serious?

Engineers introduced 3 layers of RNG and a mountain of grind in between the player and the PvP, and shattered the concept of skill based challenge. As it stands now, the only players able to get any use out of PvP are highly advanced players with vast fortunes and countless hours invested and even most of these players are sick at heart to have to engage the engineers; good look being a new player wanting to get into PvP in Open

Or just CQC

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Here is a question for all, if I made a website that with the help of a little app people ran in the background of their game would allow you to search for where CMDRs are, build heat maps of player activity etc. Would people find this useful?

I’m sure a certain player type would find that very useful.

So, no. We don’t need hunter maps.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Because it was an ill considered cheap gameplay grab that needlessly unbalanced PvP (& PvE) too.

Now if you want to take part in PvP, you have little choice but to grind away pimping your ship up at the expense of just buckets of time, upgrade most/all features of your ship to the highest grade you can (there's little/no choice or skill in this), apply the magic spells of choice, to then ensure you've now raised it to the new needlessly raised bar of performance. Now you can compete back on more of a level play basis just with the game needlessly further diluted with yet more paper-scissors-stones gameplay thanks to the magic side effects.

And let's not imply PvE hasn't been hit too. Post engineers NPCs are even more relegated to cannon fodder.


I'd suggest the only people who gained out of The Engineers are folks mainly playing PvE who like a nice advantage over NPCs... Is it because they are afraid of a challenge

In my eyes, the engineers were the tunning era of car racing. Simple as that, in street car races, skill has its great deal of importance but you better git gud at tunning, same goes for the engineers, git gud when hunting mats.