Commander Advisory Council

[Rubbernuke]

No need for a council, just put your trust in me, I will reluctantly use these powers and promise to give them back. Honest*

*only kidding. I'll make ALD look like a traffic warden

 

[Michael Whatever]

The "Commander Advisory Council" is going to need a better acronym....or perhaps not.

Any such council would simply be acting as a filter between the (disparate) views of the community and Fontier's (largely unknown) agenda. Without the CMs meaningful involvement, the council would be talking to itself; and if the CMs were properly engaged with the community any such a council would become obsolete.

I'm all for the player community helping each other and discussing game issues and occasionally arriving at a consensus (It must have happened?). Feedback and representing these views to Frontier "simply" requires greater involvement by the CMs, rather than an intermediate agency.
I'm vaguely optimistic and am encouraged by the current CM team activity, but perhaps the one of the few things the community can agree on is that greater engagement is nearly always going to be desirable. Of course, being told your suggestions are officially rubbish is not much better than having those ideas ignored.

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

The problem with this and a whole cascade of player foibles when considering elite...

For any of this and related stuff to work, frontier would first need a desire, then intention then action to actually develop elite including the spirit of players.

Reality of frontier just doesn't work this way, players are not integral to frontiers success enough for them to even turn around and see who's there. Proof: the last 3 years of patches and community management.

 

[Viscera]

I already distrust these council members, and know they do not represent my interests.

Maybe we could elect a council of assorted animals instead. An odd number, say 13, would be ideal.

Put them in a sealed pen, and have half the pen represent yes, and half no.

Ask a question, then after exactly one minute, the half with the majority of the animals in is the answer.

No revotes. Majority rules in effect.

Abstainers (those with a leg in each camp) will be shot, eaten, and replaced. This is no time for indesicive beasts.

Suggested animals..

Dog
Cat
Sheep
Cow
Pig
Goat
Rat
Horse
Camel
Gnu
Zebra
Giraffe
Elephant

Make it so!

 

[Spacerschoice-00]

Already have 1. It's a paid position called community manager and several different message ways to interact with almostanyone. Forum controlled by frontier?, reddit? and other stuff? and that twitch live stream?

 

[Vetinari]

Has there ever been an advisory council composed of players AKA Commanders, Players, Subscribers that represent Frontier's ED client base?

No there hasnt because any group would be a self-appointed self-legitimising non-representative group of people that think they are superior to everyone else and yet in no way shape or form able to speak for anybody but themselves. Probably full of the biggest egos or the most 'popular', neither of which would be good.

We all have a voice, and when everyone shouts most are lost in the wind, as they should be. But when a lot of voices shout the same thing it can be heard over the noise. So only the good ideas get any attention and most ideas are not good, not good at all but just make the game easier for one sub-set of players.

As usual I speak for myself only on this issue.

 

[zimms]

[...] The council could be made up of a cross section of active ED players (maybe 30). [...]

Looks like most people disagree so far, but I think it's actually a really good idea to have a council of 30 players representing the opinions of those 30 players.

 

[Rubbernuke]

Looks like most people disagree so far, but I think it's actually a really good idea to have a council of 30 players representing the opinions of those 30 players.

With me in charge FD will know 100% of everyone wants Powerplay updated almost overnight, and that the Asp Scout is the most liked ship in the game.

 

[Rat Catcher]

I already distrust these council members, and know they do not represent my interests.
...
Abstainers (those with a leg in each camp) will be shot, eaten, and replaced. This is no time for indesicive beasts.
Suggested animals..

Dog
Cat
Sheep
Cow
Pig
Goat
Rat
Horse
Camel
Gnu
Zebra
Giraffe
Elephant

Make it so!

I like this suggestion - although I believe that there were a few superfluous animals, so made a minor modification to make the choice satisfactory, in my opinion...

 

[Drelthar]

ahahahahaha!

Good one.

 

[Petremoss]

I appreciate the lively and inciteful comments, and yes there is much to consider concerning council membership, but this endeavor hinges on whether Frontier would embrace client representation as a Partner in determining the direction of the game. We get beyond that hurdle, then Council representation, i.e. Council membership, becomes more meaningful. Lots to work out for sure. The goal is an Innovative Ever Evolving Game.

 

[Sensei Jacksama]

If the pay were in line with 70-100 MCH Piracy would likely be one of the most used money making methods in the game. However even when a LTD source is found it only makes a third of that so players don't use it thus it would not receive any representation whereas mining would have a minimum of 1/3 of the counsel. It would be difficult for every occupation to be represented and at any time even a single module can create a new method. (in this case a grappling hook)

 

[Robert Maynard]

.... but this endeavor hinges on whether Frontier would embrace client representation as a Partner in determining the direction of the game.

Even during the time of the Design Decision Forum (a Kickstarter pledge tier to permit those backers to get directly involved in design discussions) Frontier was clear that while the members of the DDF could comment and make suggestions on the various topics, only Frontier made the decisions.

We get beyond that hurdle, then Council representation, i.e. Council membership, becomes more meaningful. Lots to work out for sure. The goal is an Innovative Ever Evolving Game.

Not all of "we" consider that that hurdle should be overcome.

I'd prefer that Frontier made more use of Flash Topics to gauge player opinion on topics - as anyone could comment on them and no-one was required to cede any "authority" to a chosen few players.

I expect that many of us want "an Innovative Ever Evolving" game - however I expect that there are as many opinions as to which direction(s) it should evolve in as there are players. Then there are, I very strongly suspect, Frontier's "red lines", i.e. things that simply won't be changed as to do so would be to change the game for all players, possibly in ways that would actively exclude some players.

 

[Bigmaec]

Raises hand

I'll do it. For some legacy PAs and one of those sweet CG FSDs.

 

[Rubbernuke]

Raises hand

I'll do it. For some legacy PAs and one of those sweet CG FSDs.

Being the self appointed Spokespirate Of Everyone™ I have a whole FDLs worth of godPA. When they fire I'm like

And my fingertips stay icy cool, ideal for making pastry afterwards.

 

[Dragsham]

Robert it's apparent that some cmdrs including your good self, are more informed than the rest of us and somewhat impartial. Although knowones truly impartial.
A few more chaps like yourself and we have a panel of experts.
I don't think pressuring frontier with utubers on the panel threatening public outcry, would work.
Sir ganksalot would be another candidate knowone doubts his slant on the game and pvpers have a voice.
A legend explorer like that chap who recently circumnavigated the galaxy with his fc would no doubt speak for explorers.
Traders rep idk if fame goes with it I'm sure someone would step forward.
A panel of experts in-game whose sole agenda is whatever group they advocate.
Also would need a chairman who would over see the whole affair and post etc.
Can't imagine who would represent the miners. Again it could be put to a vote of candidates.
Expertise is their field is key

 

[smiths121]

To be honest given the discussions here in the past betas, the only custodians worst than FD for ED's future is the player base.

Just play the game.
Simon

 

[Dragsham]

Not true.
There's alot of good players here. Experts too. And l truly think they could be a voice for everyone.
The rest of us can remain vocal and scream rant etc. Their above all that.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Not true.
There's alot of good players here. Experts too. And l truly think they could be a voice for everyone.
The rest of us can remain vocal and scream rant etc. Their above all that.

I can go with the scream, shout and rant camp - normal business here

But, in the politest way possible I'll disagree with you - yes, we do have some experts and very reasonable players here - but even they may overlook players with interests outside of their own.

I'm leaning on the side of the Developers knowing what they want from their game and leaving it up to us players to play it. (and complain bitterly, of course!)

 

[Robert Maynard]

Not true.
There's alot of good players here. Experts too. And l truly think they could be a voice for everyone.

Possibly - however they'd need to be authorised by the player-base as a whole - and be held to account if they attempted to re-direct the game in ways that were undisclosed during any "campaigning period" prior to their election and subsequent appointment.

The rest of us can remain vocal and scream rant etc. Their above all that.

We're equal in that respect at the moment - the proposal would change that and some few players would be more equal than others....