Community-run subreddit and Discord

[SpyTec]

As we are the official moderation team for Frontier i.e appointed and governed by Frontier we have also had to sign specific Non Disclosure Agreements (NDA) which covers not only what we can say but how we conduct ourselves on the forum. I am assuming that the you folks who form the moderation team on your platforms haven't signed any NDAs from Frontier that specify conduct and rules etc for Social Media platforms? (If I'm wrong I of course apologise)

We don't have NDAs, no. Since the subreddit is community-run, having any Frontier influence over that will harm the community more than it will help it. Not saying that Frontier has ill-intent, nor do I believe they do. Though Reddit communities are best managed by the community itself rather than the companies.

In the case of the forum title being edited, yes the moderator in question could have popped an note to say the title had been changed if they felt it was warranted.

Re the reasoning behind the edit after a quick review I personally agree that using the term "Official" in the title was not correct due to the following reasons.

1) They were not created and maintained by Frontier or a representative/employee of Frontier in an official capacity.
2) They are fan created reddit/discord and as such at this time at the least should not be considered official even if they are linked to via the website.
3) To define a social medium platform set as an official outlet does opens up Frontier to possible legal implications on what content is posted not only by regular users but also the moderators as well as any punitive actions by the moderation team that may be taken.

There's nothing to say that Frontier will not at some point deem them to be considered the official and then the term would be appropriate to use.

So, in conclusion I'd suggest contacting the Frontier Community team and have a discussion on how to go forward on the terminology of said Reddit & Discords that way you'll have a clear understanding on how you can proceed.

I will stand by the fact that the it is an official community-run subreddit. If Frontier does not want to get into legal implications they should not link to a social media platform they do not control to begin with. Planet Coaster, Elite Dangerous, and Planet Zoo all link to their respective community-run subreddits.

r/PlanetCoaster very broadly advertises it is the official subreddit in its banner. r/EliteDangerous advertises itself as the "official unofficial subreddit" since it is community run. And now with r/PlanetZoo we will advertise it as the official community subreddit or the official community-run subreddit.

If Frontier does not want us to use the word official in any way, they should remove the links to the subreddits on their websites. Right now they put the communities on the same ground as their own managed social media profiles. Until then, I'll stand by using the term and have changed the title to reflect that.

 

[Sir.Tj]

Hi Spytec,

I can of course see your standpoint on this, Might I suggest opening a discussion with Frontier so at the least you have it in black and white how Frontier feel on this and everyone can relax and enjoy the games? That way there will be less chance of confusion in the future.

 

[Harlequinz Eg0]

As a member of the other large Discord, I really don't think it would be fair to declare one was more official as the other, Neither discords are owned by Frontier and are both community run. Furthermore to monopolize the community simply due to being first to one of the large sites is absurd if not run by Frontier officially.

 

[Joël]

Just my two cents...

How about we strive to build a nice, friendly, open-minded, tolerant and welcoming community together, where everyone can be themselves without fear of prejudices, just like the Planet Coaster community?

Personally, I prefer the above instead of focusing on who's has the "quasi-official" subreddit / Discord etc.

 

[SpyTec]

As a member of the other large Discord, I really don't think it would be fair to declare one was more official as the other, Neither discords are owned by Frontier and are both community run. Furthermore to monopolize the community simply due to being first to one of the large sites is absurd if not run by Frontier officially.

Discord isn’t official, we never said it was. The subreddit is though which is what I argue in my post. The Discord is just the official one of the subreddit

Hi Spytec,

I can of course see your standpoint on this, Might I suggest opening a discussion with Frontier so at the least you have it in black and white how Frontier feel on this and everyone can relax and enjoy the games? That way there will be less chance of confusion in the future.

Yeah, I’ll try to get an answer from them. If I don’t get one I’ll wait until Brett is back

 

[Rhea]

As a member of the other large Discord, I really don't think it would be fair to declare one was more official as the other, Neither discords are owned by Frontier and are both community run. Furthermore to monopolize the community simply due to being first to one of the large sites is absurd if not run by Frontier officially.

You see, everywhere in both the Elite Dangerous and the Planet Zoo discord servers we make sure that it says very clearly in several places that it is managed by the community, not by Frontier Developments. We've never claimed any officiality in any regards to the Discord server. Can't say the same bout what you call "the other discord" though.

(The discord is in fact called Planet Zoo Community, our moderators bear "staff not-fdev" role and it says all that in the info channel as well as other places. We do not appoint Frontier Employees as being special, they bear a role "Guests" etc etc... to prevent any confusion.)

Edit to add to the above - what was done here was very biased act to degrade our community if anything. Both the public argument started by the moderators, and the change of the title by a moderator. That is what we are arguing about, not about being official.

I hope that I made that clear now.

Just my two cents...

How about we strive to build a nice, friendly, open-minded, tolerant and welcoming community together, where everyone can be themselves without fear of prejudices, just like the Planet Coaster community?

Personally, I prefer the above instead of focusing on who's has the "quasi-official" subreddit / Discord etc.

Yes please...

 

[StuartGT]

In the case of the forum title being edited, yes the moderator in question could have popped an note to say the title had been changed if they felt it was warranted.

But if that had happened this thread wouldn't have been as entertaining to read

 

[StuartGT]

"Official unofficial subreddit" or "tangentially associated and sometimes adjacent subreddit" should clear things up

 

[SpyTec]

"Official unofficial subreddit" or "tangentially associated and sometimes adjacent subreddit" should clear things up

The latter is just confusing

 

[Jenner]

I have changed the thread title back to remove the word 'official', as to the best of the moderators' knowledge this Reddit and Discord are not considered 'official' by Frontier Developments. To keep the word in the title could be misleading.

Further title edits to revert this change will most likely result in moderation action and/or locking this thread. Any dispute over this action should be taken up with Frontier in private. Thank you.

 

[S3B4ST13N]

They also gave me a "Frontier Dev" role for a bit too, because they though I was a dev - was a funny ice-breaker

When is space legs coming?

 

[StuartGT]

When is space legs coming?

Next week, hype!

 

[S3B4ST13N]

Next week, hype!