Hardware & Technical Computer Build to run Elite Dangerous

[Chrisberlin72]

This sucks.

I´m f***ed.
I own a great Imac - with 27 inch screen
with 2,8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Prozessor (8 MB L3-Cache)
I played Portal 2 and Bioshock with it. It worked perfectly.

The grafik-card is a
ATI Radeon HD 4850 with 512 MB GDDR3 Memory

If I had the same set-Up in the PC-World, I could easily and for not much money upgrade the system.

But as it is policy of apple: There is no way I can upgrade my grafik-card on an imac.

So if I want to play Elite properly, I have to by a new computer,
for witch I do not have the cash.

That´s why apple will always be second choice for gamers
and that is why I will not be able to play ED with Boot Camp on my Mac.

It´s interesting that currently only the top of the line models of imac and macbook pro support a 2Gig Grafik-Card and they are very expensive.

Makes me think that the mac support of the game will only be usefull for very, very few exclusive customers.

I am sad. :-(

 

[Cody]

Norton is a bucket of steaming plop...

I still use NIS, and it ain't that bad - you just have to control it.
Having said that, I'll probably be switching to Microsoft Security Essentials in the new year.

 

[NeilF]

So, They took off $70.00 AUD and told me they were no longer having the Graphics Card overclocked.

If it's a modern high spec card, and a modern high spec CPU, you really have NO need to overclock anything unless you're doing something extreme?

All you'll be doing is generating more heat (& noise) for no gain and unnecessarily stressing stuff.

I suspect overclocking can wait for years ahead when you really need to.

 

[deusx_ophc]

I´m f***ed.
I own a great Imac - with 27 inch screen
with 2,8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Prozessor (8 MB L3-Cache)
I played Portal 2 and Bioshock with it. It worked perfectly.

The grafik-card is a
ATI Radeon HD 4850 with 512 MB GDDR3 Memory

If I had the same set-Up in the PC-World, I could easily and for not much money upgrade the system.

But as it is policy of apple: There is no way I can upgrade my grafik-card on an imac.

So if I want to play Elite properly, I have to by a new computer,
for witch I do not have the cash.

That´s why apple will always be second choice for gamers
and that is why I will not be able to play ED with Boot Camp on my Mac.

It´s interesting that currently only the top of the line models of imac and macbook pro support a 2Gig Grafik-Card and they are very expensive.

Makes me think that the mac support of the game will only be usefull for very, very few exclusive customers.

I am sad. :-(

i was one of the ppl looking forward to play ed on imac, too. but looking at their gpu variations, no way. if the mac pro would have been ready, maybe i would have gone nuts and spent 5k+ on a machine just to game ed in 4k display.

but so i have succumbed again to the poweress of the gaming pc.

still ed in its final version will surely run on your mac, if not in best resolution.

chin up chris =)

ps: no need for bootcamp, fd have promised a mac port ready with the gold release

 

[Commander Mick]

Norton Has Been With Us For A Long Time.....

Think yourself lucky!

Be very, very thankful!

Norton is a bucket of steaming plop - no other way to describe it. Such a shame - the old Norton Utilities were just great back in the day.

Antivirus is included with Windows 8. It's available for free for Windows 7 - Microsoft Security Essentials. It's not wonderful but gets the job done. There are many other free antivirus programs, and unless you are in business there is no need to pay for any of it!

Good luck with the build

Well, personally I will agree that Norton does create numerous and very annoying pop-ups on my system, but it still does the job.

My dad disagrees that there is any free Anti-Virus software with Windows 8.1 and when I showed him your post here. He said that Microsoft Security Essentials is no longer in use. He said it's out of date. What ever that means exactly.

However, he did say that AVG have a free package that I can download in the meantime. He says it should do the job and it's highly recommended by the experts. I'm just a little annoyed hat Harvey Norman had opted to forego on the Anti-Virus software in favour of Win-Zip. Which I had also asked for but could have gone without in favour of giving me what I think would have been more essential. Besides, I could just about get away using the Win-Zip free-trial until I get paid again. Now the WinZip cost me about $59.00 AUD. Do you reckon they could have cancelled that to afford to give me the Norton while staying within the budget or slightly over it like it had turned out?

You should have more than four USB ports.

Dad just told me now, that he just found another four USB (Thank You, so that's what they're called.) ports up the top of it. May be still on the back or on top. I should have a proper look myself if I am to learn these things. Though, we are both unsure if that's even enough for what we need.

They will be on the motherboard and need connected to the outside world through cables in brackets that you screw into the back of the case. They are usually in the bag of motherboard bits

Yeah, I found something like those in the box the Motherboard came in. (Even though it was already installed.) They are all in small box within that box. I may get those out and read the documentation to see what else I can do.

 

[Chrisberlin72]

i was one of the ppl looking forward to play ed on imac, too. but looking at their gpu variations, no way. if the mac pro would have been ready, maybe i would have gone nuts and spent 5k+ on a machine just to game ed in 4k display.

but so i have succumbed again to the poweress of the gaming pc.

still ed in its final version will surely run on your mac, if not in best resolution.

chin up chris =)

ps: no need for bootcamp, fd have promised a mac port ready with the gold release

Your are right with the mac version, of course. But I would like to play ED right after the official release. I suspect that the mac version will come a little bit later.

 

[Cody]

He said that Microsoft Security Essentials is no longer in use. He said it's out of date.

It's been replaced by built-in AV for Win 8, I believe - but it's still downloadable for Win 7.

 

[Asp Explorer]

My dad disagrees that there is any free Anti-Virus software with Windows 8.1 and when I showed him your post here. He said that Microsoft Security Essentials is no longer in use. He said it's out of date. What ever that means exactly.

Your Dad just has to look a little harder. Security Essentials is for Windows 7. Windows 8.1 already has it built in, it's called Windows Defender, which is not the same as Windows Defender in versions prior to 8. He just needs to have a quick look at the Microsoft site.

Don't go installing antivirus packages you don't need, or will eventually run over their "trial period" and demand credit card details.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Now the WinZip cost me about $59.00 AUD

What features does WinZip have that you needed to pay money for?

7-zip does everything I could ever hope for, and it's utterly free.

 

[rab]

Norton is still pretty good tbh gets a lot of stick from people that remember how slow and how much of a resource hog it used to be if you look at the independent lab tests it always dose pretty well normally in the top 3 or 4.

Don't use AVG it maybe free but it is crud, had to sort a few friends and family members PC's out over the years who use AVG there is just so much stuff it fails to spot.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Norton is still pretty good tbh gets a lot of stick from people that remember how slow and how much of a resource hog it used to be if you look at the independent lab tests it always dose pretty well normally in the top 3 or 4.

The problem with Norton is that it's tentacles spread all over and into your operating system. All sorts of weird little things that the average user would never spot. Even if you uninstall it, the crap stays, and nothing sort of a complete reformat will properly fix it.

On old joke was that Norton is a virus that you pay for It's still true.

When I bought my macbook air a few months back the store gave me a free boxed copy of some antivirus thing. I threw it in the bin outside the store, never even opened the package. I still get emails asking me to activate it and enter my credit card details for a subscription lol. BestBuy have some "interesting" business practices.

 

[xyphic]

Besides, I could just about get away using the Win-Zip free-trial until I get paid again. Now the WinZip cost me about $59.00 AUD. Do you reckon they could have cancelled that to afford to give me the Norton while staying within the budget or slightly over it like it had turned out?

Any reason you need WinZip? Windows now handles .zip files natively, and for anything else (within reason) you could use the free 7-Zip, which will unzip just about any archive format you throw at it, including .zip. I'm surprised WinZip is still around, to be honest!

Dad just told me now, that he just found another four USB (Thank You, so that's what they're called.) ports up the top of it. May be still on the back or on top. I should have a proper look myself if I am to learn these things. Though, we are both unsure if that's even enough for what we need.

Eight USB ports should be plenty. As I mentioned before, if you need more than that you can get USB expansion hubs -- these just plug into one of the USB ports and magically converts that one port into four. There are some limitations to the number of devices you can plug in but you shouldn't have to worry about that.

 

[Asp Explorer]

USB hubs are great, very useful things. Remember that any devices connected to them will have added latency and only have the bandwidth of a single USB port at any given time.

I prefer to have latency sensitive devices plugged directly into the motherboard ports (keyboard, mouse, joystick etc), things I occasionally use into a hub (card reader, DVD drive etc).

If you have any USB3 ports (the blue ones) don't use them for things like keyboards etc. They are more suited to things like hard drives, backups etc will go much faster that way.

 

[NeilF]

Norton is still pretty good tbh gets a lot of stick from people that remember how slow and how much of a resource hog it used to be if you look at the independent lab tests it always dose pretty well normally in the top 3 or 4.

Don't use AVG it maybe free but it is crud, had to sort a few friends and family members PC's out over the years who use AVG there is just so much stuff it fails to spot.

We're going off topic here - But as a final word, I use AVG across 4 machine from XP to Windows 7... Never a single problem.

I suspect if people are doing stupid things - downloading/running stuff without thinking - nothing would help!

 

[rab]

The problem with Norton is that it's tentacles spread all over and into your operating system. All sorts of weird little things that the average user would never spot. Even if you uninstall it, the crap stays, and nothing sort of a complete reformat will properly fix it.

On old joke was that Norton is a virus that you pay for It's still true.

When I bought my macbook air a few months back the store gave me a free boxed copy of some antivirus thing. I threw it in the bin outside the store, never even opened the package. I still get emails asking me to activate it and enter my credit card details for a subscription lol. BestBuy have some "interesting" business practices.

Will admit it can be a pain in the but to uninstall lol, but the Norton uninstaller tool dose an ok job these days as long as you use something like CCleaner to clear up the registry after seems to get rid of all of it, there used to be a third party program made for uninstalling Norton that did a really good job of getting rid of it but I cant remember the name.

 

[rab]

We're going off topic here - But as a final word, I use AVG across 4 machine from XP to Windows 7... Never a single problem.

I suspect if people are doing stupid things - downloading/running stuff without thinking - nothing would help!

well maybe they all are did do something wrong, just my personal experience of AVG has not been good.

 

[Styggron]

We're going off topic here - But as a final word, I use AVG across 4 machine from XP to Windows 7... Never a single problem.

I suspect if people are doing stupid things - downloading/running stuff without thinking - nothing would help!

You mean never had a problem that you're aware of

 

[Abysinth]

Microsoft Security Essentials is up to date and will do the job. You definitely do not want Norton, although someone said use Norton Uninstaller they also said they then need to run CCleaner, which means Norton Uninstaller is not doing a complete job.

I've had five machines all running different anti-virus programs one was AVG free and another AVAST free version, both of which did excellent jobs. As a home user, you really do not need to pay for anti-virus any more.

I'm not sure why you want to pay for Win-Zip either. As others have said, Windows has had good built in (native) zip support dating back to XP

Almost everyone connects to the internet via a router these days, almost all of which have fire-walls built in. This plus the firewall in MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) is enough for most people's needs, just make sure you never, ever, ever store banking / shopping passwords on your computer and type them in every time and, as others have said, only download s/w from reputable sites such as Adobe etc.

 

[Sparticus]

You mean never had a problem that you're aware of

I have installed 30 free AntiVirus Programs, every Registry and PC Optimizer I could find, as well as all the Spyware Programs that are around, and my PC is still running slow...

 

[Abysinth]

I have installed 30 free AntiVirus Programs, every Registry and PC Optimizer I could find, as well as all the Spyware Programs that are around, and my PC is still running slow...

hopefully not at the same time.

if it's slow, check the usage of you paging file and how much RAM is in use. too much of either will slow the machine - soln: get more RAM

you can also look in task manager to see if there's anything running a lot.

in XP, Task manager used to report max amount RAM used since the computer started whcih was a good indicator to see if you needed more RAM. They removed this really useful feature since XP unfortunately.