Well this thread has ripened into something unexpected.
Console Update
- Thread starter David Braben
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It's almost reached the level of "murder on the dancefloor...."
I'm having retro Bextor flashbacks now.
Presumably for one of two reasons:
1: They knew Horizons was going to need continual maintainence as a separate fork with ongoing access to the BGS, and therefore would require additional work to make it compatible going forwards, so this is to be expected.
2: Sunk cost fallacy and/or an unwavering belief they'd be able to get over this one last insurmountable problem preventing Odyssey from working on console led to them keeping up all the development to support it right until they conceded defeat on that one thing everything else depended on.
My Spider sense is tingling. I guess it's a misunderstanding, when you wrote:
It sounded like you are talking about the depths FDEV can sink to.
Best regrads, CPT. Hindsight
Indeed, was very much meaning the depths devs in general can sink to, and how Frontier screwing up on making an expansion work doesn't remotely compare.
I'm not sorry for this. Sorry.
Its the cheekbones that scare me.
All the Horizon updates since the launch of Odyssey have been called 'Odyssey compatibilty update' at least they have on my Playstation. I guess they probably didn't feel like renaming it 'Console cancellation update'.
Indeed, it's basically what they've committed to for the foreseeable future with Horizons too, with every update essentially being a "Horizons not asplode in your face bc of something we added to Odyssey" update.All the Horizon updates since the launch of Odyssey have been called 'Odyssey compatibilty update' at least they have on my Playstation. I guess they probably didn't feel like renaming it 'Console cancellation update'.
Its because ED on Consoles is ALREADY Odyssey compatible.
Look at bottom left of start up main menu - on mine it is:
Elite
angerous Odyssey Compatibility update[3.8.405] . FID: b3krdy4On my
Elite
Dangerous
HORIZONS tm
Main Menu on login screen
What this means to me, is that half the work has already been done as ED is already running in EDO compatible mode.
It suggests that the projected revenue from EDO for consoles was previously enough to cover the porting of EDO from PC to consoles.
That is no longer the case, so they have obviously pulled the plug as it would generate a loss financially (dev costs higher than projected income???).
EDIT - that laughing face in Elite Dangerous above sums it up nicely, though it wasn't intentional - I typed in : D, so I am not editing it out
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So you think having first person abilities but to disallow shooting was the solution for Odyssey to be a success? Just walk around bases and ships. I don't think so, it reads like a very selectively cherry picked scenario to hang your argument on. Plus, we can walk around bases, walking around in ships was categorically stated to not be in Odyssey from the get go, though I guess we have to have FP movement to get to that point so Odyssey brings the game a step closer that reality by default too.
I can honestly say that it isn't, and that everything good about Horizons is in Odyssey and what isn't is better. Game performance is a red herring otherwise we'd still be playing wireframe graphics on an 8bit machines. As for performance, the latest patch has seen 70fps in the hangar on foot jump to 100fps, on a 2020 RTX2060 based laptop, not cutting edge hardware by any stretch, but definitely a newer CPU, I think that's an important distinction to make.
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really? have you been on this forum before ?
(note I fully accept I am as bad as many on here at flogging the dead horse)
No, and I doubt we ever will
Yea, guess they didn't wanna spoil the surprise,lolAll the Horizon updates since the launch of Odyssey have been called 'Odyssey compatibilty update' at least they have on my Playstation. I guess they probably didn't feel like renaming it 'Console cancellation update'.
Your reference to 8bit wireframe graphics is a red herring. We're comparing Odyssey not to 8bit games but to other modern games running on the same hardware. Performance in hangars is another red herring, because Odyssey's gameplay takes place on planet surfaces, not in hangars.
really? have you been on this forum before ?
(note I fully accept I am as bad as many on here at flogging the dead horse)
You know me well enough to know I'm just pulling legs mate - I'm as guilty as anyone!
But oh honey...
No-one knows what the engine is doing behind the scenes apart from self-proclaimed armchair experts who tend to insist that all of this is easy and FDev bad. So the relative performance of Odyssey vs other games is kinda moot, as more is added the specs will go up and that was the general point I was making. Though that isn't to say that things are optimal either, but.....
It was an illustration that I happened to immediately notice, that's a 30fps jump in the same scenario as before. Either way, a 30fps improvement is pretty huge if you ask me, and not to be casually dismissed in an 'achtually' type of way.
However, I didn't make note of the FC interior but it was similar IIRC, I wanted to play last night but unfortunately didn't get to, but I will see if this gain is reflected elsewhere, ie; planet surfaces. Barring settlements, I was getting around 90fps, so I will report back.
Though I am sorry that fps improvements have the opposite reaction of making you happy.