Right there with you in the Horizons brigade. Especially with stuff like the planet tech announcement (Nice to see how abandoning console development is really paying off for Odyssey players in terms of more focus in fixing stuff there XD )
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The story needs to be totally ignorable for those who do not wish to follow a script.
So does this mean you will be removing the game from console game pass or is the revenue you get from Microsoft a critical case
Or future content plus they havent released any information on console in their clubs they made in over a year they haven't shown any need or want to affiliate themselves with console just up and off em i say as a console player only reason i can see them keeping the game on console is for the extra revenue from game pass thats it
May Horizons continue to live on through consoles for as long as ED lasts.
As FDev is a business that is as it should be.
You must been playing on pc, happy you. I was playing ED on consoles since day one, so few years passed by. I don't mind if ED server would by turned off after 7 years, but this is different. They keepped me for 1 year - ONE YEAR ! - just to give me short "console update" and it was like hitting a wall for me; instead, they even didn't say nothing about profile transfer option - it's just a top of being ignorant attitude. More below, copied. To be clear, I don't mind if they would decide to turn off the servers, it's normal in game-world.
Whoa, time passed by since they doomed Elite on consoles after keeping people "in pending state" for year and now FDEV are discussing profile transfer to pc?! Really, they are discussing it?! I'm glad that I'm clean now (no more nights for Elite) and can focus on other games.
Either, I don't like their approach to the client. They are still selling ED:H on ps store. How unfair is this knowing that someone will buy it, someone without the knowledge of ED console status. Maybe I'm to romantic.
I agree, it's so unfair that console players get to have a feature-complete game which works, runs at a stable 60fps, has no planet LOD issues, and you can continue to enjoy.
I've put in many hours of grind on XBox since I bought the game preview, and like others was excited to have odyssey planned to arrive. I am disappointed at being abandoned after many years of support (Since 1984 actually - even that awful "first encounters"). I have enjoyed ED, but I guess it's time to dock, log out and wait until 22nd November for Starfield.
It being intentional is not important, the fact it is from a technical stant point possible, that it was demonstrated through even accidental means, whatever would be needed to allow for console to pc transfers is not only in place, but that Frontier has to disable this.
The database that stores all this clearly platform agnostic, there is no "moving" of data required, just a change to the flag as to what platform the client the save can be loaded on. As we saw, MS nor Sony store the game saves, they are on frontier's database that they control and own.
Oh absolutely, of course they will need to create a workflow, but since they have cancelled console development, pre-Odyssey PC development, and now no longer trying to fix planet tech, they should have MORE than enough money and personnel available to draft, code, test and deploy this workflow.
I mean with all the announements of what Frontier is no longer doing for Elite Dangerous, the demand for this transfer ability becomes even MORE within the realm of not only possible for them, but honestly is expected considering the console players have been dutiful paying customers that have invested a large sum of time and money into their product.
I'm perfectly happy with Elite Horizons on XBox, content-wise. I don't really care about walking around - it's Elite - and there's plenty of scope for emergent gameplay in Horizons.
If Frontier spent a little time each month on bug fixes and polishing the console version of Elite Horizons, it could just become a finished game.
Game Pass would continue to provide a revenue stream, so I don't understand why the choice was between active development and complete abandonment.
If Frontier spent a little time each month on bug fixes and polishing the console version of Elite Horizons, it could just become a finished game.
Game Pass would continue to provide a revenue stream, so I don't understand why the choice was between active development and complete abandonment.
You’ve clearly not played on PS5 …
Lemme guess, Frontier never bothered with a PS4 Pro version to match the One X version Series X runs?
I'm playing it on an XBox Series S, and it runs fine - not flawlessly, but it's generally fine. It's the prospect of investing many hours into something that the developer will neither finish nor develop that puts me off.
Same here and my guess is I will continue to play ED on it for years. Hawken, the first game I started playing on Xbox One, was both a PC and XBOX game, but the developer cancelled the PC version and turned off their servers - not so with XB, four years later I still play it occasionally. No proof but, could be MS contract requires servers to be kept running for a set period of time. Not sure I'll move my Xbox account to PC, already have one being worked/developing using EDO, but once I see what the real options are, then I'll decide. Just like I did when I started my PC account - chose to build another CMDR so I could have more strategic Power Play/BGS options. Recommend enjoy now, and decide when there is an actual change that can be implemented. On a side note, while the graphics on EDO are better, EDH on Xb has fewer bugs that annoy. Chief is the auto launch - still do not understand why the EDO programmers cannot get their code to run as smooth as EDH. I can tell they are working on it, because it improved then when wonky for the Cutter auto launches again. I suspect they will eventually work it out, they do have a solid record of making the game better. Just my take another year. Eitherway, adapt of die and above all fly fast and be dangerous. o7 all.
I hate to say it, but I've come around to this POV as well. When I didn't have EDO, I really wanted it after watching some gameplay vids. Once I got it, I was initially impressed with space legs and the other content. However, now that I've been playing it since last October, I find Odyssey to be a drag on the rest of the game. The only portion I still enjoy is the pure spacelegs experience of being able to leave my ship/srv and walk around to visit a concourse, planetary settlement or planetary surface feature on foot. All the new associated gameplay, from the foott missions, to the foot combat, new suits/weapons and engineering stuff...it all amounts to a poorly thought-out and implemented experience that brings little to the core spaceship gameplay. I never thought I would say it, but I have been toying with the idea of going back to Horizons because it doesn't have any of the excruciatingly annoying and, ultimately, merely distracting content of Odyssey.
I don't mean to be, well, mean, but sometimes Frontier reminds me of a spreadsheet developer that somehow got involved with game design.
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It's possible, as is the case with a great many console versions of games which still run to this day, that the console port simply operates on a p2p matchmaking system.
Also I fire up Hawken from time to time myself!
They did a PS4-Pro version but with no 4K and a Quality Mode that’s been broken for as long as I can remember.
So on PS5 you can only get 1080p at 60fps with borked textures, flickering shadows and a bucket load of network connection bugs thrown in for good measure.
I clearly see some people on the PC side disconnected from reality. I understand your positivism and even your admiration for Frontier. I admire them after all I love the game, but we need to be real from the point of view of hits and misses. And in this Forum we have numerous comments from people who are not aware of the situation of the consoles, most of the comments in this topic are from people from the PC and that already shows a wrong trend about what should be addressed here.
I don't believe this is a real problem, but I do think that the way some have expressed themselves is terrible, discrediting the criticisms, desires and fears of console cmds.
Some will say you can play it via Ge Force Now.
However, the console already pays to play online and it would be more expensive to pay for a Geforce now just because Frontier did not have the affection and perhaps with all respect, the ability and tact to deal with its internal problems.
"Oh you have the Horizon it still runs well"
Let's be honest here. If it were the other way around this forum would be a real pandemonium. With only one difference, I don't think there would be as many players on the console side doing this disservice as some on the PC side do here.
Horizon is a great game, this is unanimous, but the problem lies in kicking us out of the party while some scream from inside "Outside there's the streetlight that illuminates better."
I made three threads on this forum alone and read a lot more than I wrote. So I've been noticing this, there will probably be numerous comments destroying this post of mine from some of the PC CMDs. I honestly don't care.
But I make this reflection, the interest in the game is decreasing more and more every day. Much is said about the death of the game, on Youtube the views about the game are plummeting. And for the people who keep doing this disservice remember that ED is a service game, and without interest it will inevitably lose strength.
For the Frontier team I leave this message:
You made a work of art. That like mine, there are several hearts that love the unknown and the unexplored that loved to be entertained by ED. We are very disappointed in you. Yes this is the pure truth. But we know that every relationship has ups and downs and I'm sure I speak for many that if you reconsider, we'll all come back and praise the decision not to abandon the cmds that flew with you both from PC and consoles.
For those find SOME PC cmds that identified with what I wrote above. It helps a lot who doesn't get in the way, reading more and writing less is a virtue.
I don't believe this is a real problem, but I do think that the way some have expressed themselves is terrible, discrediting the criticisms, desires and fears of console cmds.
Some will say you can play it via Ge Force Now.
However, the console already pays to play online and it would be more expensive to pay for a Geforce now just because Frontier did not have the affection and perhaps with all respect, the ability and tact to deal with its internal problems.
"Oh you have the Horizon it still runs well"
Let's be honest here. If it were the other way around this forum would be a real pandemonium. With only one difference, I don't think there would be as many players on the console side doing this disservice as some on the PC side do here.
Horizon is a great game, this is unanimous, but the problem lies in kicking us out of the party while some scream from inside "Outside there's the streetlight that illuminates better."
I made three threads on this forum alone and read a lot more than I wrote. So I've been noticing this, there will probably be numerous comments destroying this post of mine from some of the PC CMDs. I honestly don't care.
But I make this reflection, the interest in the game is decreasing more and more every day. Much is said about the death of the game, on Youtube the views about the game are plummeting. And for the people who keep doing this disservice remember that ED is a service game, and without interest it will inevitably lose strength.
For the Frontier team I leave this message:
You made a work of art. That like mine, there are several hearts that love the unknown and the unexplored that loved to be entertained by ED. We are very disappointed in you. Yes this is the pure truth. But we know that every relationship has ups and downs and I'm sure I speak for many that if you reconsider, we'll all come back and praise the decision not to abandon the cmds that flew with you both from PC and consoles.
For those find SOME PC cmds that identified with what I wrote above. It helps a lot who doesn't get in the way, reading more and writing less is a virtue.
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