News Content Recap: Beyond - Chapter Four Livestream - Exploration and the Codex
With an infinite supply of probes - and no worries about the costs or profits - who cares how efficient the pilot is in using them?
The way I understood it is that you get an efficiency bonus in credits for staying within the effeciency rating when you sell the exploration data.
Are new UI elements (scanner) sent through the colour matrix or are they independent like Galnet ?
Yes it seems that unanimity is for the moment the rule.
Well stream 1 done - the following ones have a lot to live up to
People who like skill-based gameplay.
Yikes.. You don't pick up on jokes very well, that or I'm not obvious enough... or the meme wasn't obvious enough. Hello?
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I saw the entire livestream later after I missed it, loved every bit of it!!
I cannot wait to be able to map those planets for geological features!! I love them so much and it is great they are becoming a more viable part of the game!!
Cannot wait until next livestream, hopefully I can make it this time!
I do have one question though, there will be new things with the tech broker yes? sometimes grind is a good thing! gives me something to do to pass the time, hopefully there will be a lot of them!!
Just watched the whole stream. The changes look good for what they are, but some concerns:
I saw a scrollbar on the ship stats screen. I'm sure "something" could be done to get that to fit without the need to scroll. (so much wasted space)
Jonking? Honk while scooping? Can I? (yes I know I will find out in beta)
Infinite probes? Why not set it to 1000000 and cost 1 iron to refill? (enough to full scan ~30 systems before a refill should be plenty (*numbers made up to illustrate))
I think this is more of an existing issue (module proliferation and all that), but why are ADS (now FSS) and DSS "required" for exploration? These should simply be tools to increase efficiency. (like how limpets are not "required" for mining, you can still do it, just slowly). I think the game would benefit from allowing full exploration benefits WITHOUT FSS and DSS (you should just have to get close enough with your ship to do the same "scan" with the built in sensors). Yes my position is biased to my play style, and I need to free up a slot being a small ship pilot. Why MUST I use probes to surface scan? Why MUST I honk to find that 2nd star that is right in front of me about to burn me up?
Something to think about.
I saw a scrollbar on the ship stats screen. I'm sure "something" could be done to get that to fit without the need to scroll. (so much wasted space)
Jonking? Honk while scooping? Can I? (yes I know I will find out in beta)
Infinite probes? Why not set it to 1000000 and cost 1 iron to refill? (enough to full scan ~30 systems before a refill should be plenty (*numbers made up to illustrate))
I think this is more of an existing issue (module proliferation and all that), but why are ADS (now FSS) and DSS "required" for exploration? These should simply be tools to increase efficiency. (like how limpets are not "required" for mining, you can still do it, just slowly). I think the game would benefit from allowing full exploration benefits WITHOUT FSS and DSS (you should just have to get close enough with your ship to do the same "scan" with the built in sensors). Yes my position is biased to my play style, and I need to free up a slot being a small ship pilot. Why MUST I use probes to surface scan? Why MUST I honk to find that 2nd star that is right in front of me about to burn me up?
Something to think about.
Hi....
May be anyone can help me here...
I understood, that if you explore in a wing or in multicrew, all findings are shared.
But who will then get the first discovered or first mapped tag? All? Or only that guy who runs first to the next station?
Beside that: thanks for this update, I am hyped and can't wait!!
May be anyone can help me here...
I understood, that if you explore in a wing or in multicrew, all findings are shared.
But who will then get the first discovered or first mapped tag? All? Or only that guy who runs first to the next station?
Beside that: thanks for this update, I am hyped and can't wait!!
IIRC from some previous stream, they all get the tag.
I have to say I felt very positive about 90% of the material shown. I'm a bit confused about the community exploration thing, from what I understood the new exploration scanning is only going come into effect when you arrive in a system that nobody else has scanned and sold the data of? So presumably, you'd need to get well outside the bubble to see it in action?
Somethings I was less impressed with weas the new lighting as far as it effects your HUD and illuminated controls. It should have no effect, it would be like using electroinc flash to photograph something on the television. I'm sure I could achieve the same effect on a still in photoshop by bring up the contrast and saturation. I don't want my control lights any punchier, I already have them on minimum illumination, it is a bit concerning that these "improvements" are sparkling up things that are self illuminating. In general, the stills shown I felt looked a bit on the garish side, but I accept that's completely subjective.
FD, please at least leave the option to have discreet and understated lighting within the ship, what was it Bruce Lee said about it, "When the finger points at the Moon, the fool looks at the finger, and so misses all the heavenly glory."
But like I say, I've focused on my concerns - the other 90% seems very positive indeed. Good on you, FD.
Somethings I was less impressed with weas the new lighting as far as it effects your HUD and illuminated controls. It should have no effect, it would be like using electroinc flash to photograph something on the television.
I'm sure I could achieve the same effect on a still in photoshop by bring up the contrast and saturation. I don't want my control lights any punchier, I already have them on minimum illumination, it is a bit concerning that these "improvements" are sparkling up things that are self illuminating. In general, the stills shown I felt looked a bit on the garish side, but I accept that's completely subjective.FD, please at least leave the option to have discreet and understated lighting within the ship, what was it Bruce Lee said about it, "When the finger points at the Moon, the fool looks at the finger, and so misses all the heavenly glory."
But like I say, I've focused on my concerns - the other 90% seems very positive indeed. Good on you, FD.
Yes, I'd fogotten this. Just seemed a slightly false note. 5000 and then you'd need to get some iron, explorers?
As was mentioned elsewhere, this need Horizons (and also SRV hangar with SRV = one less internal slot). Infinity looks more practical, offer more fun/time and mainly works for all ED players. If I should start worry about immerse, then this thing will be very low on my list (multicrew being first).
Hi there, I've was able to be with you on livestream and I'm very excited because great stuff is comming to exploration. Thanks FD.
But I'm a little dissapointed with some solutions. For me DSS and mapping of the planet lacks some functionality.
If we mapping with probes a surface of the planet, where is our surface map? :O
For me "mapping" is not only revealing the POI (this lacks also some functionality but I come back to it later in this post) and long distance surface view. Mapping is creating a MAP of mapped body, but we don't have any map aren't we?
Why this is so important, let me explain.
If we use DSS now, we reveal surface of the planet and we can zoom this planet and see surface but without any details i.ex. level of terrain, canions, POI etc. Now in Q4 if we use DSS with the probes, we reveal surface and POI and only this. No detailed map of the surface, no information about terrain level etc. This is a big issue and lack based functionality of mapping. For me it's not a mapping its a way for showing hidden POI's only. If we got such a technology and we use probles that hit the surface for real mapping that reveal the surface, we should get, a real map of probed planet right? Map that will tell us: here are mountains, there was a canion, here we have POI with guardian/thargoid sites, there are abandoned outpost etc. and also be able to set a custom marker on that map.
Explorers like me, still have to fly around the planet and look on the surface for custom POI like canions, big craters etc. and here comes second issue with POI's.
We flying space ships, jumping to another stars, refueling from coronas great stuff and amazing technology we have, but the one that is simpliest thing is not available. And this thing is marking a custom POI on planet surface... Ok I understand maybe people didnt discovered it yet (the great old guardians too :O) but now when we have DSS with probes and mapping, we should be able to set a marker on a mapped surface and go to this direction. I love canions on the planets and for me, there is no any big change with new exploration functionality (oh yea there is one, faster scanning all bodies).
What is mine point, that we have new stuff but this stuff is based mostly on things that we have now. Mapping is not a real mapping only showing same map of the surface that we had already. POI's revelead with probes instead flying around the planet. New way of doing thing's looks cool but they lack based functionality, lack of more feauters that should be included already.
But I'm a little dissapointed with some solutions. For me DSS and mapping of the planet lacks some functionality.
If we mapping with probes a surface of the planet, where is our surface map? :O
For me "mapping" is not only revealing the POI (this lacks also some functionality but I come back to it later in this post) and long distance surface view. Mapping is creating a MAP of mapped body, but we don't have any map aren't we?
Why this is so important, let me explain.
If we use DSS now, we reveal surface of the planet and we can zoom this planet and see surface but without any details i.ex. level of terrain, canions, POI etc. Now in Q4 if we use DSS with the probes, we reveal surface and POI and only this. No detailed map of the surface, no information about terrain level etc. This is a big issue and lack based functionality of mapping. For me it's not a mapping its a way for showing hidden POI's only. If we got such a technology and we use probles that hit the surface for real mapping that reveal the surface, we should get, a real map of probed planet right? Map that will tell us: here are mountains, there was a canion, here we have POI with guardian/thargoid sites, there are abandoned outpost etc. and also be able to set a custom marker on that map.
Explorers like me, still have to fly around the planet and look on the surface for custom POI like canions, big craters etc. and here comes second issue with POI's.
We flying space ships, jumping to another stars, refueling from coronas great stuff and amazing technology we have, but the one that is simpliest thing is not available. And this thing is marking a custom POI on planet surface... Ok I understand maybe people didnt discovered it yet (the great old guardians too :O) but now when we have DSS with probes and mapping, we should be able to set a marker on a mapped surface and go to this direction. I love canions on the planets and for me, there is no any big change with new exploration functionality (oh yea there is one, faster scanning all bodies).
What is mine point, that we have new stuff but this stuff is based mostly on things that we have now. Mapping is not a real mapping only showing same map of the surface that we had already. POI's revelead with probes instead flying around the planet. New way of doing thing's looks cool but they lack based functionality, lack of more feauters that should be included already.
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