I got a cheap deal in the top 2.8%....
Could Frontier please demonstrate how to use the FSS enjoyably?
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You still have to use your imagination., Just not as much.
Now here’s a mixed up, confusing, misleading notion, which is, in and of itself the real crux of most of these arguments - speed.
But claiming the ADS is faster? Maybe for a system snapshot, but the FSS is vastly faster for gathering useful data. In the time it would take to fly half a Hutton to DSS some ball of ice I’ll have fully scanned several systems. Maybe even mapped a few planets.
I've come to the conclusions that some just wasn't different types of fast and different types of slow.
It's all a bit pedantic if you ask me.
I've just been using the FSS enjoyably !
Gnosis is coming back into range of other stars so with a drop of Guardian FSD booster, a splash of synthesis, no weps, no shields but an SRV, got my plot of a reachable star, jumped in and set up my fuel scoop. From there ran through the discovery FSS scan and then went back through them, once the bodies are numbered in the FSS. This gave me the layout of the solar system, information on interesting atmospheres and geological potential without changing the screen and unlike the system map - which takes time to load in my case and requires a fiddly hover over the bodies to get the same info - got all that on one screen which opens and closes instantaneously for a quick look up.
Gnosis is coming back into range of other stars so with a drop of Guardian FSD booster, a splash of synthesis, no weps, no shields but an SRV, got my plot of a reachable star, jumped in and set up my fuel scoop. From there ran through the discovery FSS scan and then went back through them, once the bodies are numbered in the FSS. This gave me the layout of the solar system, information on interesting atmospheres and geological potential without changing the screen and unlike the system map - which takes time to load in my case and requires a fiddly hover over the bodies to get the same info - got all that on one screen which opens and closes instantaneously for a quick look up.
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I believe the FSS doesn't give you the terraformable status - which it totally should (in case FDev are still reading this zombie thread).
Probably not the best thread for a productive discussion anyway, which is what I'd prefer. Something being enjoyable is rather subjective, and I wouldn't really mind the FSS so much if it were more of an optional sort of thing for reasonable and viable exploration game-play otherwise.
It helps to decide if you want to use the FSS or not by giving the system map.
I'm cool with the FSS being a more time-effective credit/tagging feature, so long as I'm not limited to using it or parallax.
Haven't really needed credits in the game since 2015 for what I'm on about anyway.
I'm cool with the FSS being a more time-effective credit/tagging feature, so long as I'm not limited to using it or parallax.
Haven't really needed credits in the game since 2015 for what I'm on about anyway.
Deal
We are talking in terms of ED here - the map in itself does not count, never has, and never should. The map is and always was purely a tool - nothing more, nothing less.
While we're on the subject, I submit for your consideration, that Pluto be regarded in the solar system as a planet again, along with X, Y, and Z as apt.
Thanks, NASA. You guys very large icy rock. ❤
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50:50 NASA or Frontier reading this thread.
I'm pretty confident that somebody at NASA plays ED.
FDev, not so much
I'd go back to suggesting a range improvement - for the hieroglyphic arrows - so that you get an indicator, pointing you at unresolved tuned blobs remaining, no matter where you are on the screen. That makes it more of a scanner for me.
There are various other improvements that have been proposed by this thread and some of which could mitigate complaints over the unjustifiable removal of the ADS in the first place. Examples of such improvements include (but are not limited to):-
- Improving tuning bar controls
- Adding visual representation of the FSS audio component
- Better integration with normal cockpit operation
- For example: As an option, tuning available from either the L/H or R/H MFDs and blobs visible as a cockpit overlay when in Analysis mode (near body /signal pass rather than pan/zoom required for actual scan via cockpit mode). Currrent FSS mode would not be removed, and ultimately no "core changes" should be required.
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Good idea. When life gives you dead horses, you make horseade.I think we missed a post that is quite telling, people.
Carry on. o7
FDev are very good coders but I'd suggest things like this can't turn on a sixpence.
Betas exist primarily to check for game break bugs before a patch goes live. The fact that it's a beta does concentrate player's minds, for suggesting improvements because features are new, but to implement those changes needs a rewritten patch, which actually needs to go back through alpha.
I read this quite a bit, "we told them in beta" but aside from tweaking some variables - to balance the game - it's really unrealistic to expect deeper code rewrites to happen, even during a month long beta, as code changes need planning out.
That's not evidence of Devs ignoring feedback, but an unavoidable fact of code writing.
If I were more pessimistic, I'd presume the design philosophy is to suffer the mini-game for the bell ding reward at the end.
I think they think they have to take a hard stance on it because they knew some people wouldn't like it so they prepped for that instead of being more agreeable and open to the ideas of compatible workarounds for those of us who care to play the game differently, like, you know, piloting spaceships and things.
Ultimately, FD should have extended the Beta to allow time to address the concerns. Instead they failed the wider community and in the process broke their own promise of "building on the past" by removing the ADS and failing to address the concerns of those that objected to it's removal.
The key one (regarding the new FSS mechanics) I think they should have addressed is the lack of a visual representation for the audio component of the FSS. Not to mention they released the FSS with a number of bugs that should have arguably never made it into the release - VR rendering issues where the FSS is concerned for example as well as their demonstrable failure to ensure existing explorers have their codexes appropriately pre-populated with pre-3.3 exploration data.
Overall, FD may be good coders (debatable) but that does not excuse the state of the FSS release nor the lack of addressing fair and reasonable feedback.
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