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Nope it still makes no sense. It's just a poor analogy.
Could Frontier please demonstrate how to use the FSS enjoyably?
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Nope it still makes no sense. It's just a poor analogy.
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It would help with the orbits, but not the glowing green gas giants. So an improvement, but not exactly a solution.
I certainly want some tweaks to the FSS. But I have not seen many constructive suggestions apart from an optional ADS module of some kind. Most of the rest have been just the same complaints said again and again.
It's been suggested a bunch of times, a lot of folks agree they'd happily take an additional module slot up with one which adds this information to a black body sysmap, even if planets are untargetable until FSSed.
Sure. It's not like I care about your personal preferences, so why would I wish to change them? I think the misunderstanding might be where you now said that "explaining in excruciating detail how and why this method is worse for you" (emphasis mine): however, I'm speaking of general usage scenarios, not my personal preferences. (Unless you actually meant "you" in the plural sense, in which case please disregard this. It can be hard to tell in English.) The point back then was that the FSS is better for some usage cases, especially the most common ones, but not universally better in every approach; it's worse than what we had in some others. You said you didn't see why on the latter part, so that's why I explained it.
Whether someone likes the FSS or not doesn't change anything in the fact that you get the same amount of credits and tags faster than what we had before, for example.
Well, at the end of it, would you still say that the FSS is universally better, for everyone?
A lot of us suggested that exact same thing since the very first feedback threads, yes. If FD went ahead with this, it would have been a small compromise that would have solved one issue, but not nearly all of them.
However, let me make an important distinction: I don't hate the new system, because hate is too strong a word to be used here. I dislike it. However, my reasons for disliking it go well beyond the reason expressed above. There are plenty of other issues with it, some of which I've recently mentioned. I do wish that Frontier fixed those, but well, here we are nearly nine months later, and they haven't touched them.
Actually, if you want to read some detailed feedback from plenty of people, I'd recommend reading through this thread. Or if it's just one post you'd read, then it should be Jackie Silver's:
It's all from eight months ago, but nothing much has changed since.
From my perspective - I would have, it is that bad in terms of design and implementation. It is half-baked in approach, and does not fit with the principle of an Elite type game.
Galaxy map does not even fit in the same context - it's closest cousin would the Orrery map which was a pointless addition IMO. The FSS may have superficial similarities to the FSS but they are completely different things in reality and not even close to being comparable in terms of use case.
I'm perfectly comfortable with the FSS. I simply read the spectrum then ignore it.
Anyway, the question I answered was whether a blackbody System Map would address all the issues - and since GGGGs still wouldn't be visible prior to tune-n-zoom, it wouldn't.
Sorry, but less like spock and more like spot - as in spot-goes-blob-hunting
Ugh, that post you quoted annoys me so much. And makes me dislike your point just by association. There is a difference between traveling and exploring. If you are on a hauling run in a mambo, you are not exploring. This is why they need real separate explorer modules.
Basically that person is saying that while they're hauling cargo, they can't just press a button and instantly know every thing about a system. That they don't want to put in any effort. Really, what's the "challenge" in putting cargo in your ship and flying to another station? What if I got mad that when I am out exploring, I should be able to just mine and teleport the raw ore to a station and get paid?
But everybody has most exploration tools even when they are not exploring. I would prefer a ship not even be able to honk unless they attach the tools to do so. No more exploration rank just from traveling, or I think I should get trader rank for selling data, too. I am trading my info for credits afterall.
Sorry for the rant.
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Sorry, but less like spock and more like spot - as in spot-goes-blob-hunting
Do we actually know what Spock was looking at in that inverted periscope thing of his?
SDo we actually know what Spock was looking at in that inverted periscope thing of his?
He was looking at the System Map. You'll note how it didn't take him minutes to get the results. He just held down the button on the side for 5 seconds, then knew everything about the system. Clearly Spock had an ADS.
What do you think real discovery of planetary bodies would be? In real life it's looking through multiple images and looking for things that moved. Or for exo planets looking for light changes in the star to see if something passed by. So very spot the blob really.Sorry, but less like spock and more like spot - as in spot-goes-blob-hunting
Well, picommander, kindly stop putting words in my mouth please. You've made up a number of things that I didn't actually say, such as "finding extremely rare anomalies in form of certain constellations is the pinnacle of exploration and all what's exciting about it.", or that I am "willing to throw any means of engaging gameplay out of the window for", that rare finds have to come for free, and so on. So you made some things up and employed a fair amount of over-exaggeration, to build a straw man that you could then knock down.
In the future, please don't say I said things that I didn't.
In the midst of all that, there is one important nugget though:
Other than that, there's the vague promise that someday, we'll be able to land on atmospheric planets, but we have no idea when.
Do we know anything more about their plans for the future of exploration?
In the future, please don't say I said things that I didn't.
In the midst of all that, there is one important nugget though:
You know, there's a good question there: what do the developers have in mind for the future of exploration? As far as I know, they haven't shared that with us anywhere. The only information on this was the early newsletter linked in this thread before, and the design discussion forums, both of which seem to have been abandoned.
Other than that, there's the vague promise that someday, we'll be able to land on atmospheric planets, but we have no idea when.
Do we know anything more about their plans for the future of exploration?
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Well... Apples and Oranges? Parallax would just tell you IF something exists. Think of FSS as a really strong telescope used after the large area camera catches motion. So the honking would be what replaces Parallax.
EDIT: Actually, the 5 second hold time would be a series of quick images that the computer checks comparisons and determines the existence of bodies in the system.
I think he was just really good at twiddling his "button", so it was probably the FSS interface he was looking at.
SI think there was a misunderstanding due to a language barrier here. Jackie Silver meant a medium-haul route as in a medium trip of 20k ly, with roughly 25 jumps per thousand ly, not hauling cargo or anything. I'm sorry, but you made up everything that you got annoyed about, and that wasn't the point of what she wrote at all.
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