Patch Notes Update CQC Update 1.4

[F1Racer]

Can you clarify what this means?


When I originally saw this option in the galmap, it sounded like it would filter to distinguish between systems you'd visited/scanned and systems you had not, which is a long-requested feature that would be incredibly useful to everyone, especially explorers--being able to visually see on the map which systems we've visited! I was extremely disappointed to find that it seemed to only show "local data" for systems where you'd purchased the data, which is... not really the least bit useful at all, so I'm not sure why it worked that way.

If that was a bug, and it's now working the way it sounds like it should, rejoice.

I dunno if it's related but I heard of some exploration bug whereby when you returned from exploration (as I recently have), it was better to painstakingly sell your exploration data one at a time as opposed to one page at a time due to a possible bug that, I think, didn't calculate your rewards properly.
I also am not sure if this was thought of as a bug because when people got back they weren't rewarded for First Time Discoveries because someone else had discovered it after you and got back and cashed in first.

Sorry if that all sounds vague but I'm working off 2nd hand info and maybe someone can shed some further light on whether its ok to sell exploration data by the page without any issue.

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

The issue is discussed is a big long thread elsewhere! Basically, it's the desire to not have the CQC rating displayed in the UI the way it is or, even better, make it (and the other 3 while they're at it) togglable.

As you say Powerplay is optional and we do not have an intrustive PowerPlay: N00B in the main part of the UI. People not interested in CQC just want it treated similarly.

... but powerplay is similarly non-optional. It sits on my left hand panel just as obtrusively, and now and then I accidentally click on that instead of system map, and see a pile of wholly uninteresting stuff. Indeed (though I have not investigated) it looks like you may have to click on the powerplay tab to get the Galnet news.

I'd love it all to be togglable so I can hide stuff I am not interested in. But on a scale of importance, I would much rather they fixed the bits of the core game they left unfinished or barely working when they went off to do these optional things. The problem I have with CQC (and powerplay, come to that) is not that FD have done it, but that they have done it with the core game problems not addressed, and (in particular) exploration still just being a placeholder.

 

[F1Racer]

take it over there then, this is a thread about the general release of 1.4 not your need to continually bang on about something that has 57 pages worth elsewhere!

That thread is closed for no fathomable reason, AstroCreep, otherwise I might just have done that. Regardless of that, don't tell me where to post! This is a 1.4 related issue so it is on-topic.

 

[de Koning]

Nice updates! The one that annoyed me to death is supposedly fixed too.. not able to use the mouse to select systems etc in the galaxy tab..

Now how much longer before I can get online again??

Sid

CMDR de Koning

 

[GJ51]

Is the 1.5 beta out yet?

 

[AstroCreep]

That thread is closed AstroCreep otherwise I might just have done that. Regardless of that, don't tell me where to post! This is a 1.4 related issue so it is on-topic.

Apologies the mod before said the poll was closed but the topic open, besides this argument has been done to death that's why many of us are sick of hearing about the SMALLEST of "issues" to do with the game. It's just a bit of text, get over it!

 

[quicksilverut]

Do you guys think CQC will help me find some people to play with in open play? I'm in the US and I almost never see other commanders during early east coast hours, -5 BST i think.

 

[Ozric]

The answer to this is the same as the answer to those that ask 'What if an explorer doesn't like trading or combat?"
CQC is NOT part of the main core game. Powerplay, Exploration, Trading and Combat are.
It really isn't that hard to understand the fundamental difference.
CQC is separate (accessed from the main menu). Frontier were right to design it like this as it makes the most sense.
So having powerplay, exploration, trading and combat ranks in the main core game is pretty much mandatory, while CQC is not core gameplay and all of it should be kept separete. It's just a bad decision to put it there I think. Hopefully Frontier wil eventually realise this and put it where it rightfully belongs, which is on the ships HUD in CQC.

Also, to address another point, it doesn't matter how good CQC is or if people have tried it or not. It may be loads of fun and addictive as hell. The point still stands regardless imo.

The poll on this had 57 pages of commentary. Clearly this is a contentious issue with many people.

Ah but hang on, you appear to have tripped yourself up in your constant need to repeat yourself. Previously only Exploration, Combat and Trading were part of the main game, now PowerPlay is too. But PowerPlay wasn't there at the start, just like CQC wasn't... Now it is and it is integrated into the main game as well.

Polls on these forums are to be ignored 95% of the time:

Do you agree?

1) Yes
2) No

57 pages of commentary from what is probably less than 1% of the player base is not a basis for an argument unfortunately. There have been many more contentious issues about arguably more important things... It took us long enough to get the option to turn off the ship counting down to Hyperspace incorrectly

 

[Mordhar]

Sorry, I probably not put it in words very well.

I do not think CQC is bad. Quite the opposite: it adds more diversity to the game, which is obviously good.

I do not see an issue in having galaxy-wide combat pilot championship especially if it presented as a separate mini-game.
The only thing that bothering me is the fact that every single pilot was forcibly made participant (have a record and rank in main game’s UI) of aforementioned championship.

About an explorer that may not be interested in combat rank.
If I drive a car, it is normal that my driving license says I am not good at handling motorcycle or truck. But I am surely do not need entry that says “world rally championship – place 348958 of 1000000” if I never took part in that even as a spectator.

 

[fyo]

Local Cartographic Data Filters not working fixed

Can you clarify what this means?

If you are docked at a station, the map has a couple of extra options in the same drop-down as "filter by star class". As with the star class filter (or economy filter), there are multiple check-box options listed below the filter drop down. However, none of these had any effect. The in-game descriptions were a bit sparse and I don't recall them, so I'm not sure what we can actually filter on now.

 

[Alex Merion-Turner]

I wonder if FD will respect the poll results ?

LOLWHAT!

I think you may be confusing the word "customer" with the word "constituent".

 

[Abbadon]

Sorry, I probably not put it in words very well.

I do not think CQC is bad. Quite the opposite: it adds more diversity to the game, which is obviously good.

I do not see an issue in having galaxy-wide combat pilot championship especially if it presented as a separate mini-game.
The only thing that bothering me is the fact that every single pilot was forcibly made participant (have a record and rank in main game’s UI) of aforementioned championship.

About an explorer that may not be interested in combat rank.
If I drive a car, it is normal that my driving license says I am not good at handling motorcycle or truck. But I am surely do not need entry that says “world rally championship – place 348958 of 1000000” if I never took part in that even as a spectator.

we already know what it is bothering u

 

[Nightbringerx]

new update from the support page.
The Elite Dangerous servers are currently offline while we upgrade to version 1.4. The servers are estimated to come up at around 3:30pm BST. Patch notes

Boy, you just LOVE tormenting us with the fact they are delayed.....you big meanie!

 

[Ozric]

I dunno if it's related but I heard of some exploration bug whereby when you returned from exploration (as I recently have), it was better to painstakingly sell your exploration data one at a time as opposed to one page at a time due to a possible bug that, I think, didn't calculate your rewards properly.
I also am not sure if this was thought of as a bug because when people got back they weren't rewarded for First Time Discoveries because someone else had discovered it after you and got back and cashed in first.

Sorry if that all sounds vague but I'm working off 2nd hand info and maybe someone can shed some further light on whether its ok to sell exploration data by the page without any issue.

That wasn't a bug, it was a fallacy spread around. There was an issue where you were getting 0Cr First Discovered bonuses displayed while selling your data, but this was fixed in 1.3.0.5. The issue was that the 0Cr was for objects in the system that had already been scanned and sold by someone and so you weren't missing out on anything, it was just that you shouldn't have been seeing them in the first place. Also when it shows you how many Cr you will get for selling a page, that is without the First Discovered bonus anyway.

 

[Gypsy12]

Cmon FD! Its 7 hours already!!!

(((-;

 

[F1Racer]

Apologies the mod before said the poll was closed but the topic open, besides this argument has been done to death that's why many of us are sick of hearing about the SMALLEST of "issues" to do with the game. It's just a bit of text, get over it!

"It's just a bit of text", so then Frontier won't mind appeasing the numerous amount of us who to not want this overlap of the two games on one of our main HUD panels for no apparent reason.
I'm afraid, while it's there, I`ll always have the same opinion of it so 'getting over it' won't be possible unless and until this design flaw is fixed.
Sure there are other issues in the game but I`ll let others campaign over those.

 

[jabokai]

I'd love it all to be togglable so I can hide stuff I am not interested in. But on a scale of importance, I would much rather they fixed the bits of the core game they left unfinished or barely working when they went off to do these optional things.

Totally agree. But this "minor issue" is only around in the here and now because it's something that could have been addressed at implementation, rather than added to a long list.

 

[quicksilverut]

Trie heading to the hq of the different faction or head to sag A

i'll do the first, first! ty

 

[F1Racer]

That wasn't a bug, it was a fallacy spread around. There was an issue where you were getting 0Cr First Discovered bonuses displayed while selling your data, but this was fixed in 1.3.0.5. The issue was that the 0Cr was for objects in the system that had already been scanned and sold by someone and so you weren't missing out on anything, it was just that you shouldn't have been seeing them in the first place. Also when it shows you how many Cr you will get for selling a page, that is without the First Discovered bonus anyway.

A-haa, that's that one settled then. Thanks for the info Ozric ! I wish I'd known that a week ago, I could have saved 2 hours, hehe

 

[MarktJones]

If only there was a death match arena available where this could be settled...